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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

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I figured there was some sort of rift between GNR and Azoff when the website owned and run by Azoff's company ran a pretty negative and condescending article about Axl after the paparazzi incident prior to the Asian shows

Whatever happened, at least Azoff's management did what Goldstein and Merck couldn't and got the album released. Now the band has seemed to do a pretty good job of pulling off a tour that has been excellent in terms of performance and done well enough in terms of ticket sales to prove that they are financially viable so hopefully the ball keeps rolling, tour keeps going and we get another album some time soon. It seems that now that CD came out and the tour finally kicked off that everyone involved seems liberated and seems to be enjoying themselves again, probably bodes well for the future

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

I have to agree. Azoff is the creme-de-la-creme when it comes to artist management. Plus, he heads up Ticketmaster which is in the process of merging with Live Nation, which will effectively make him the most powerful man in the music industry. Not a bad person to have behind you.

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

I have to agree. Azoff is the creme-de-la-creme when it comes to artist management. Plus, he heads up Ticketmaster which is in the process of merging with Live Nation, which will effectively make him the most powerful man in the music industry. Not a bad person to have behind you.

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

I have to agree. Azoff is the creme-de-la-creme when it comes to artist management. Plus, he heads up Ticketmaster which is in the process of merging with Live Nation, which will effectively make him the most powerful man in the music industry. Not a bad person to have behind you.

Then why he is not with Axl anymore?

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

I have to agree. Azoff is the creme-de-la-creme when it comes to artist management. Plus, he heads up Ticketmaster which is in the process of merging with Live Nation, which will effectively make him the most powerful man in the music industry. Not a bad person to have behind you.

Then why he is not with Axl anymore?

Because Axl does not like to be told he is wrong.

He seems to fire people that give him reality checks.

So the latest is Azoff is not with Axl anymore again? Axl keeps firing him and bringing him back. That is funny.

But Azroff is the wrong guy to mess with, because he could make it impossible for Axl to tour the US if he wanted to.

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Because Axl does not like to be told he is wrong.

He seems to fire people that give him reality checks.

So the latest is Azoff is not with Axl anymore again? Axl keeps firing him and bringing him back. That is funny.

But Azroff is the wrong guy to mess with, because he could make it impossible for Axl to tour the US if he wanted to.

Let's be realistic here.

If Azoff is no longer with Axl, it is because he sees a reunion is not happening. Anyone who thinks he was interested in anything other than seeing if he could squeeze a nine figure reunion deal out of the situation is awfully naive. Putting together high dollar reunions is his specialty, and GNR is the biggest money reunion left out there. He probably wanted to take a shot at it, but I am sure it is clear to him it is not happening, thus his tolerance level for the bullshit associated with managing GNR dropped precipitously.

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

I have to agree. Azoff is the creme-de-la-creme when it comes to artist management. Plus, he heads up Ticketmaster which is in the process of merging with Live Nation, which will effectively make him the most powerful man in the music industry. Not a bad person to have behind you.

Wasn't Beta the one who stone-walled Slash when he tried to visit Axl in '05? It would be nice if he surrounded himself with people who didn't fan the flames of his insecurities and anger. That's not to say that Beta has not been a positivitve part of Axl's life. She obviously has. It's just that he should probably listen to those who have been in the business and know what will work for this band other than a group of 'yes men'.

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

I have to agree. Azoff is the creme-de-la-creme when it comes to artist management. Plus, he heads up Ticketmaster which is in the process of merging with Live Nation, which will effectively make him the most powerful man in the music industry. Not a bad person to have behind you.

Wasn't Beta the one who stone-walled Slash when he tried to visit Axl in '05? It would be nice if he surrounded himself with people who didn't fan the flames of his insecurities and anger. That's not to say that Beta has not been a positivitve part of Axl's life. She obviously has. It's just that he should probably listen to those who have been in the business and know what will work for this band other than a group of 'yes men'.

To be fair if Axl listened to management he wouldn't have played Asia or half the shows in Canada. It's for the fan's benefit. There's a problem with listening the industry as well because it becomes formulaic and about number crunching. I think it's a sign that axl isn't this 'corporal sell out' which he often gets labelled as. Sometimes it's good that he doesn't compromise as it means we get something different and more people get to experience a show that otherwise they wouldn't have gotten because it doesn't meet some anal, bureaucratic requirement.

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

I have to agree. Azoff is the creme-de-la-creme when it comes to artist management. Plus, he heads up Ticketmaster which is in the process of merging with Live Nation, which will effectively make him the most powerful man in the music industry. Not a bad person to have behind you.

Then why he is not with Axl anymore?

Because Axl does not like to be told he is wrong.

He seems to fire people that give him reality checks.

So the latest is Azoff is not with Axl anymore again? Axl keeps firing him and bringing him back. That is funny.

But Azroff is the wrong guy to mess with, because he could make it impossible for Axl to tour the US if he wanted to.

That makes sense for me

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Do you really think that even if Axl fired Azoff it would have any impact on US tour ?

It's all about money , if Azoff sees that he can make few more dollars by such tour he won't do any problems, it is music industry now - all about money $$$$, and Axl is one of the last, who doesn't care about money

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I think alot of the talk is just Axl being Axl. Meaning, Azoff is still GNR's manager, but he and Axl aren't seeing eye to eye. Hence as Axl sees it, "We have no management involvement," really means, "Management isn't doing what I say so fuck them."

Maybe you are right and Azoff is still the manager. We´ll know for sure soon

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Axl has publicly spoke about "management" out on this tour at Tokyo and now Toronto. Obviously the business end of things has annoyed him and the band. Question is...What is it they are suppose to do...especially on tour? He also mentioned that they don't have management involvement, if the tour is going this well do they need them?

Of course they do, if they did not have management we would still be waiting for the album.

Axls problem is unless you are a yes man then there is a problem. Management does not kiss Axls ass and they tell him how it is, that is a so called problem to Axl.

Axl needs more people like that around him, not ones like Beta who tell him he is always right even when he is wrong.

I have to agree. Azoff is the creme-de-la-creme when it comes to artist management. Plus, he heads up Ticketmaster which is in the process of merging with Live Nation, which will effectively make him the most powerful man in the music industry. Not a bad person to have behind you.

Wasn't Beta the one who stone-walled Slash when he tried to visit Axl in '05? It would be nice if he surrounded himself with people who didn't fan the flames of his insecurities and anger. That's not to say that Beta has not been a positivitve part of Axl's life. She obviously has. It's just that he should probably listen to those who have been in the business and know what will work for this band other than a group of 'yes men'.

I imagine everything Beta does has Axl's approval and that she wouldn't turn Slash away if it wasn't what Axl wanted.

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