ITW 2012 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Do you think Axl will announce the titles of the new songs he plays at RIR or will he leave it open to speculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Speaking of speculation, would it not be putting the cart before the horse by suggesting they are going to play new songs?Let's wait and see only a couple days to go then we will know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 I've managed to convince myself that new material will be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I've managed to convince myself that new material will be played.hehe oh oh! Well I don't have a clue about it, maybe they will. I won't get my hopes up though just in case. Just seeing them perform at this gig will be killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I agree. This is going to lead to MAJOR disappointment if we all expect new songs to be played at rio and the tour and then we get nothing. In fact, I'm under the impression that we will not hear anything new and possibly less from CD. My guess is this is going to be a "greatest hits" type tour, and it all has to do with the hall of fame, to be honest. I wouldn't be shocked to hear CD songs removed and replaced by stuff like Estranged, Don't Cry, Yesterdays, maybe even Move to the City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I think people would expect Axl to play new material regardless. I mean, he did at RIR in '01. Just imagine seeing him say "This is a brand new song..."I'm pretty excited, and I do believe Axl will debut new material.But to answer the OP's question, I think he will, but it would be cool if one of them was left open to speculation so the forum could discuss it a bunch and try to figure out the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman007 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I've managed to convince myself that new material will be played.Hopefully they will, but I hope if they dont you can still say the show fn rocked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 He will only play new songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben9785 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Well it would be nice but nothing to indicate its going to happen just yet.. If those messages on Tommy's twitter were not hacked then it seems they won't be putting any attention to anything new until after this tour at the earliest. Unless they've rehearsed one or two 'new' non-Chinese Democracy songs in the past and Axl will take the chance to bring it up now.. or if him & DJ have been writing and they pass around a demo for everyone to learn before the show.. Will be interesting to see anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyp44 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I'm not getting excitied about new music because rio is going to be what the tour will be like kind of a sneek peak and I don't want to be pissed if new music is not being played when I see the nov 17 I'm goin with an opened mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 It's Back to the Further time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 If he plays new songs, the Rock in Rio Facebook will announce the name of the songs either way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I believe the title of a new song has ALWAYS been announced when it was debuted live, correct? I know Chinese Democracy, Madagascar, Street Of Dreams (Well, The Blues), Riad, and Silkworms were. Anyone remember from the old band if this still stands as truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 It's so obvious were not getting a new song..But who the fuck cares, Sunday we dine.....In hell!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben9785 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 If he plays new songs, the Rock in Rio Facebook will announce the name of the songs either way...Yeah or maybe just a tentative title.Anyway wouldn't concern me if the title was "Axl feeds the ducks", would be great to hear something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I believe the title of a new song has ALWAYS been announced when it was debuted live, correct? I know Chinese Democracy, Madagascar, Street Of Dreams (Well, The Blues), Riad, and Silkworms were. Anyone remember from the old band if this still stands as truth?Yes true. This is a new song ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) I believe the title of a new song has ALWAYS been announced when it was debuted live, correct? I know Chinese Democracy, Madagascar, Street Of Dreams (Well, The Blues), Riad, and Silkworms were. Anyone remember from the old band if this still stands as truth?Yes true. This is a new song .....He didn't announce Better, IRS, TWAT in 2006... as far as I remember.Well those had leaked previously, but still.We'd already heard them, and we already knew the titles. No reason to announce them. Hence the "downloading motherfuckers" comments in '06. The question at hand pertains to songs that are heard for the very first time in a live format. Edited September 29, 2011 by Powerage5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 If he plays new songs, the Rock in Rio Facebook will announce the name of the songs either way...I don't think Axl is going to let Facebook cramp his untamed style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 Maybe he'll introduce Beta's Barn by saying: "This is a song about my fucking mother." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Personally, I find it a little crazy to think he won't play at least one new song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Personally, I find it a little crazy to think he won't play at least one new song.Agreed. Not playing new songs would be tantamount to admitting defeat, and we all know pirates don't ever admit defeat. Edited September 30, 2011 by ITW 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gunns5 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Honestly I think people anticipating new songs are just setting themselves up for big disapointment. There's currently no indication of a new album on the way, and they haven't been in the studio since dj joined the band.In all honesty, besides rio, I think they're doing this tour just because they're legally obligated to. Anybody remember axl's reading statement? It wasn't too long after the azoff settlement that they announced these dates, and these things do happen.I think new songs are just in the realm of dreams at this point.Didn't stop them from playing new songs at Rio in 01, or at Hammerstein in 06, the best case scenario out of those two was a new album 2 years away.new songs 2011, new album 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamBruceBailey Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I really hope they play something new but I'm not getting my hopes up. I remember when they did Madagascar for the first time at Rio in 2001 and there was no You Tube and I was dying to hear what the song sounded like. It was very exciting when I found it on one of those old file sharing websites. I probably listened to that live bootleg hundreds of times over the next couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 In all honesty, besides rio, I think they're doing this tour just because they're legally obligated to. Anybody remember axl's reading statement? It wasn't too long after the azoff settlement that they announced these dates, and these things do happen.What do you mean legally obligated to?The Reading statement is a whole other thing. He said they were obligated to do those show once scheduled by management. In this case the shows weren't scheduled until after the settlement with Azoff. The settlement should really benefit both parties, and Azoff sued for what? $1.8 mill? Axl counter-sued for about $5 mill.I seriously doubt Axl would be enbarking on this tour, knowing he'll be doing the whole thing for Azoff, instead of caughing up the money. Bandmembers have been talking about doing a US tour since last year, I have a feeling they're doing this tour because they want to. The settlement probably helped them get the thing rolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyrie Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Honestly I think people anticipating new songs are just setting themselves up for big disapointment. There's currently no indication of a new album on the way, and they haven't been in the studio since dj joined the band.In all honesty, besides rio, I think they're doing this tour just because they're legally obligated to. Anybody remember axl's reading statement? It wasn't too long after the azoff settlement that they announced these dates, and these things do happen.I think new songs are just in the realm of dreams at this point.You have that backwards Bobbo. Part of the countersuit Axl launched was that Azoff was using his position to manipulate bands, promising tours that didn't happen, and basically blocking them from touring.We know GN'R wanted to tour the US because multiple members publically said that. However, most people assume that, since they were on the outs with Azoff and therefore Live Nation (at least in the US), they were being prevented from doing so.The settlement (in my opinion) seems to say:Ok, Azoff, you want your money? Then you have to facilitate a tour.In other words, both parties get what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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