Georgy Zhukov Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Wasn't Brosnan a dick about Daniel Craig? Or was it just the Craig haters? He was cast as a character similar to James Bond for a Japanese Diet Coke commercial right around the time of The Living Daylights. It is amazing how he had the role figured out years before Goldeneye. Tomorrow Never Dies and The World is Not Enough weren't that bad, just the villains were weak. I loved that scene when Bond kills Elektra with little hesitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Nope, Brosnan was a supporter from the beginning. Once the "CraignotBond" stuff started Brosnan said he was a amazing actor who'd do a great job, and after Casino Royale said he's well on his way to becoming a memorable Bond. Brosnan always comes off as pretty likable in interviews. I recommend the Everything or Nothing documentary. Easy to find online, and it's got great new interviews with all the Bonds minus Sean. Timothy seems very proud of what he brought to the role albeit a little disappointed his direction with the series wasn't accepted at the time.I also don't think Pierce's films are that bad. The good outweighs the bad that's for sure. It's fun to pick on the bad bits because it's so easy to do so, but I can put on Tomorrow Never Dies or The World Is Not Enough and be entertained by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 What I really like about Pierce was his positive attitude towards Die Another Day, he knew the film was crap but he took it like a champ. Sean Connery couldn't hide his bordom or distaste in YOLT, Diamonds and Never Say Never Again. The last Connery film he had that "I'm too old for this shit" and "I am just here to collect a check" look on his face. To be fair, his career has been in decline since Diamonds are Forever. His more memorable non-Bond roles were after NSNA.I will check out the documentary. I remember being a clip of Connery talking about Craig, I shall find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Brosnan. One great Bond (GE), two average (TMD, TWINE) and one horror show (DAD). Not a bad record. He can walk away with his head held high for Goldeneye if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 His ratio was a good as Moore's. Out of seven films, two were good, two were okay and two were bad. Dalton has the best ration IMO. Two awesome Bond films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'd argue that Lazenby has the best ratio. His entire tenure is filled with quality Bond films. I think you're thinking of the Bond special on the South Bank Show in 2008 which had new interviews with Connery and Craig. Great show, but the new documentary unfortunately has nothing from Connery. It does shed a lot of light on what exactly happened between him and Cubby Broccoli though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 True! Connery had four great films and two mediocre. I heard they wanted to see how much sex appeal Lazenby had so they sent a bunch of girls to his hotel room. They all confirmed he is straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Back to Skyfall, something I'd like to discuss. There is a theory that there is indeed a reference to every prior Bond movie in it. How many can we come up with? I've got:Goldfinger - the Aston MartinFor Your Eyes Only - "Have these analyzed. For her eyes only."Casino Royale - "Stop touching your ear."Live And Let Die - The Komodo dragon scene. I think this one is a stretch but a lot of people agree on it. I'm sure there's more that I haven't caught yet, but I don't think there's 22 hidden references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) Thinking about going to see this tonight. Not a big Bond fan, but everyone's talking about it. I may just download it. Ha, I found a "DVD rip" of Skyfall that was just uploaded today.I'm actually trying to download the blu-ray collection, but I can't seem to get more than two seeders even though it says there are 800+. Edited November 19, 2012 by luciusfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Thinking about going to see this tonight. Not a big Bond fan, but everyone's talking about it. I may just download it. Ha, I found a "DVD rip" of Skyfall that was just uploaded today.I'm actually trying to download the blu-ray collection, but I can't seem to get more than two seeders even though it says there are 800+.See it in theaters, its worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Thinking about going to see this tonight. Not a big Bond fan, but everyone's talking about it. I may just download it. Ha, I found a "DVD rip" of Skyfall that was just uploaded today.I'm actually trying to download the blu-ray collection, but I can't seem to get more than two seeders even though it says there are 800+.See it in theaters, its worth it.IMAX if there is one near you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Thinking about going to see this tonight. Not a big Bond fan, but everyone's talking about it. I may just download it. Ha, I found a "DVD rip" of Skyfall that was just uploaded today.I'm actually trying to download the blu-ray collection, but I can't seem to get more than two seeders even though it says there are 800+.See it in theaters, its worth it.IMAX if there is one near you.There is, but shit, I can't afford IMAX for four people lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Topic: What are your favorite Bond opening sequences? Here are mineFrom Russia With Love You Only Live TwiceGoldfingerOn Her Majesty's Secret ServiceThe Living DaylightsCasino RoyaleGoldenEyeI will talk about Casino and GoldeEye. Casino Royale's opening was memorable for a lot of reasons. The black and white gives it the before and after feel, Bond has to prove himself that he is a 00 Agent. He has to kill a guy not only high up in MI6, but also has a family (brief shot after Bond shoots him) but the man had to die since he was selling information. This also proves that Daniel Craig has the acting chops to take on the role proving him worthy of the role before the opening credits.GoldenEye was really impressive, took place in the final years of The Cold War, we are introduced to 006, one of the few times we see Bond on a real Cold War mission against the Soviets since Cubby and United Artist wanted to distance themselves from The Cold War. It also proved Brosnan worthy of the role that was actually been calling him for ten years. Dalton and Lazenby had memorable introductions, don't remember Moore's though but I think he appeared after the credits.Thinking about going to see this tonight. Not a big Bond fan, but everyone's talking about it. I may just download it. Ha, I found a "DVD rip" of Skyfall that was just uploaded today.I'm actually trying to download the blu-ray collection, but I can't seem to get more than two seeders even though it says there are 800+.See it in theaters, its worth it.IMAX if there is one near you.There is, but shit, I can't afford IMAX for four people lolThey can't pay for their own ticket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Thinking about going to see this tonight. Not a big Bond fan, but everyone's talking about it. I may just download it. Ha, I found a "DVD rip" of Skyfall that was just uploaded today.I'm actually trying to download the blu-ray collection, but I can't seem to get more than two seeders even though it says there are 800+.See it in theaters, its worth it.IMAX if there is one near you.There is, but shit, I can't afford IMAX for four people lolThey can't pay for their own ticket?Wife and kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Thinking about going to see this tonight. Not a big Bond fan, but everyone's talking about it. I may just download it. Ha, I found a "DVD rip" of Skyfall that was just uploaded today.I'm actually trying to download the blu-ray collection, but I can't seem to get more than two seeders even though it says there are 800+.See it in theaters, its worth it.IMAX if there is one near you.There is, but shit, I can't afford IMAX for four people lolThey can't pay for their own ticket?Wife and kids. Go see it in theaters. You and your family will love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Topic: What are your favorite Bond opening sequences? Here are mineFrom Russia With LoveYou Only Live TwiceGoldfingerOn Her Majesty's Secret ServiceThe Living DaylightsCasino RoyaleGoldenEyeI will talk about Casino and GoldeEye. Casino Royale's opening was memorable for a lot of reasons. The black and white gives it the before and after feel, Bond has to prove himself that he is a 00 Agent. He has to kill a guy not only high up in MI6, but also has a family (brief shot after Bond shoots him) but the man had to die since he was selling information. This also proves that Daniel Craig has the acting chops to take on the role proving him worthy of the role before the opening credits.GoldenEye was really impressive, took place in the final years of The Cold War, we are introduced to 006, one of the few times we see Bond on a real Cold War mission against the Soviets since Cubby and United Artist wanted to distance themselves from The Cold War. It also proved Brosnan worthy of the role that was actually been calling him for ten years.Dalton and Lazenby had memorable introductions, don't remember Moore's though but I think he appeared after the credits. Indeed, Moore appeared after the 3 agents were killed in LALD. I like Dalton's intro in The Living Daylights.To give Moore some credit, The Spy Who Loved Me had an iconic intro with the ski jump/Union Jack parachute. My favorite is probably Goldeneye, though. All of Brosnan's movies had great introductions now that I think of it. The last 3 (especially DAD) went way south afterwards, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 That was an incredible stunt, even by today's standards. Shot in one take, no edits. Even the bungee stunt though impressive couldn't stop it. The parkour scenes in Casino Royale were impressive but not opening scene.Die Another Day had a great opening scene, we actually see Bond fail his mission. Too bad the rest of the movie didn't have that gritty feel. World is Not Enough, three words, Maria Grazia Cucinotta. She had one line and it was better than anything that came out of Denise Richards mouth. Too bad they killed her off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 That was an incredible stunt, even by today's standards. Shot in one take, no edits. Even the bungee stunt though impressive couldn't stop it. The parkour scenes in Casino Royale were impressive but not opening scene.Die Another Day had a great opening scene, we actually see Bond fail his mission. Too bad the rest of the movie didn't have that gritty feel. World is Not Enough, three words, Maria Grazia Cucinotta. She had one line and it was better than anything that came out of Denise Richards mouth. Too bad they killed her off.Is that the one where he's in Korea and he lowers his heartbeat to make the doctors think he's dead? Man, I haven't watched a Bond movie in ages. I remember when I was a kid they would always play them on TNT during December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) That was an incredible stunt, even by today's standards. Shot in one take, no edits. Even the bungee stunt though impressive couldn't stop it. The parkour scenes in Casino Royale were impressive but not opening scene.Die Another Day had a great opening scene, we actually see Bond fail his mission. Too bad the rest of the movie didn't have that gritty feel. World is Not Enough, three words, Maria Grazia Cucinotta. She had one line and it was better than anything that came out of Denise Richards mouth. Too bad they killed her off. I agree with literally everything you just posted. I think Die Another Day could've been Brosnan's Skyfall, if that makes sense. An homage to the overall series, Bond fails a mission, etc. If only they had a better script, director and music (Madonna? Seriously?!)Edit: lucius - yep, that's the one. I forgot which channel does it, but there's usually a 2-3 day Bond marathon around Thanksgiving. I recently saw QoS on tv for the first time...it's been a while since I've seen any non-Craig Bond movie on tv. Edited November 20, 2012 by Crazyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 In a way it was since it was released on Bond's 40th. Well okay 40 years and one month but they were obviously trying to cram all the Bond themes in one movie. Unfortunately they hired the wrong people to make it. Even Roger Moore, who did Moonraker, thought they went too far. The director didn't seem to have watched any films. Maybe if he wasn't too busy dressing like a woman and offering oral sex to strangers he would have found time to get to know the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I just read that. WTF?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Goldeneye (simply superb; Bean and Brosnan)Goldfinger (tux under wetsuit number)Casino Royale (superb)OHMSS (although the, ''this never happened to the other fella'' grates).I do not like the whole, Grant V guy in a Connery mask (obviously Connery) on FRWL. It is just something the filmakers threw in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I like so many of the openings it's hard to pick a favorite. It's easier to pick the worst - Diamonds Are Forever. Some of the most atrocious editing in any Bond film. The horribly dubbed "Cairo!" and the bad cutting. Very rushed, and I swear they slightly sped up Connery's "Bond, James Bond" because his voice sounds higher pitched compared to the next line he says. There's a UK trailer for the movie with what appears to be the same take but with a more natural sounding Connery. Awful opening for a very weak Bond film.Back to Skyfall, something I'd like to discuss. There is a theory that there is indeed a reference to every prior Bond movie in it. How many can we come up with? I've got:Goldfinger - the Aston MartinFor Your Eyes Only - "Have these analyzed. For her eyes only."Casino Royale - "Stop touching your ear."Live And Let Die - The Komodo dragon scene. I think this one is a stretch but a lot of people agree on it. I'm sure there's more that I haven't caught yet, but I don't think there's 22 hidden references.I think the radio gadget was also a bit of a homage to the homing device in Goldfinger. Then the office at the end was naturally the one from the Connery/Moore films, so not a film in particular but definitely a homage to that era. I guess one could argue GoldenEye in that the villain was a past agent, but that might be more of a coincidence than something that was intentional. Octopussy had the fight atop a train, and Tomorrow Never Dies had a motorcycle chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) Back to Skyfall, something I'd like to discuss. There is a theory that there is indeed a reference to every prior Bond movie in it. How many can we come up with? I've got:Goldfinger - the Aston MartinFor Your Eyes Only - "Have these analyzed. For her eyes only."Casino Royale - "Stop touching your ear."Live And Let Die - The Komodo dragon scene. I think this one is a stretch but a lot of people agree on it. I'm sure there's more that I haven't caught yet, but I don't think there's 22 hidden references.The exploding pen joke I believe the scorpion was a reference to Diamonds Edited November 20, 2012 by LiveFromNormal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Favourite title sequences?I like Goldeneye with the girls smashing the soviet era statues, Casino Royale and most of the 60s ones, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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