DeadSlash Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Here a link explaining what I'm talking about a little better. http://internetsafety.trendmicro.com/new-copyright-enforcement-program-to-launch-july-1So, I dl'd Prometheus, and didn't even get a chance to watch it before I got an email from Verizon telling me I had broken copyright law. First I thought it was a scam, so I called Verizon and they explained that yes, they sent the letter and it was my first warning (I think you get 6 or something) Some questions for other downloading motherfuckers:1. If a movie or album is out, It's legal to download it because I am just downloading a back up of the hard copy I bought, correct?2. Will any of the programs that mask your IP make a difference if it's your own ISP and not the Torrent site that is ratting you out? Won't Verizon know it's me because it's the source? If the answer is no, can anyone suggest a good program for it?3. Anyone else get one of these? The article I linked to says it was changed from July 1 to the fall, but I got the notice on July 2, so it definitely started in July unless it started in July and was halted until the fall. I had dl'd a few movies in one pop, but Prometheus was the only one I was warned on, so it must involve a request from the studio or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBOSS Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 ah i got some of these notices too. i just ignored them but i guess sometime soon it could be a problem for me as well as many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbominableHoman Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I received one from Comcast for my IP address downloading Jennifer's Body. So I just made sure everyone in my house stopped downloading frivolous brand new shit that studios still give a shit about. That was almost three years ago, and I've downloaded a considerable amount of material. Nothing brand spanking new though (I'm still hooked up with Netflix's ultimate plan for another 95 months after I left the company). I think you're fine right now, they can only remove you from their service, they can't initiate any lawsuits. And I think they don't actively monitor your activity, it's the studio (or some sub-contracted entity) that notifies the ISP of your actions. 1. I don't think that matters.2. I heard removing the actually torrent file helps, using a proxy, or.... there is another program(s) that also helps mask your IP but I'm not sure how effective it is.I'm sure someone will follow my post with a more educated reply, but this is everything I've gathered from my own experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbominableHoman Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 This is one of the many times I wish there was a Bat Light for Kevin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 They've been doing this for a while. Just don't download the big popular torrents of the new hot movie on ThePirateBay and you'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I use Peer Block and haven't had any problems yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I remeber a mate of mine having this with his ISP once, he still downloads shit by the bucketful no problems at all. You'll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 They've been doing this for a while. Just don't download the big popular torrents of the new hot movie on ThePirateBay and you'll be fine.I was kinda hoping this is the case. I never had an issue before, but I never dl'd movies until I figured out I could stream them to my xbox. I started then, Prometheus was literally in the first batch of movies I nabbed. Since it was on 7/2 and this new thing started on 7/1 I was kind of freaked.Thanks for the feedback all, you are making me feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 They've been doing this for a while. Just don't download the big popular torrents of the new hot movie on ThePirateBay and you'll be fine.yeah it has and very true about not downloading the newest shit.i first learned about this years ago in florida their was a newspaper story about how feds were uploading fake links in p2p networks like limewire and frostwire to supposed child porn and tracking whoever downloaded it and 50+ people got busted for it. in the same article it mentioned how the RIAA and bigtime movie studios were going to do something similar to torrents. so now what video game, movie and music people will due is go to huge torrent sites like piratebay and the like and track a certain link/file and track it and send letters to the ISPs to the people downloading, and then they send a letter to you. on these sites if you read the comments people will tell you if it is being tracked.basically online i read an article from an insider that works for the RIAA he said they were going after new material he said that they really dont care about albums from the 70s-90s , its the new potential high sellers they were worried about. (which is something i never have to worry about lol)a friend of mine had his internet service cut off by comcast for continuing to download illegal stuff.They've been doing this for a while. Just don't download the big popular torrents of the new hot movie on ThePirateBay and you'll be fine.I was kinda hoping this is the case. I never had an issue before, but I never dl'd movies until I figured out I could stream them to my xbox. I started then, Prometheus was literally in the first batch of movies I nabbed. Since it was on 7/2 and this new thing started on 7/1 I was kind of freaked.Thanks for the feedback all, you are making me feel better.you will be fine just read comments if their is any people who have had a problem will tell you its being tracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Use PeerBlock. The only time I've ever had emails from my ISP has been when I haven't been running that software.The emails are more or less meaningless, but if you want to stop getting them, download PeerBlock and run it whenever you're torrenting. It's not 100% guaranteed to keep "surveillance" peers from connecting to you, but as long as you keep it updated it does a great job.2. I heard removing the actually torrent file helpsWell that, or just "stopping" the torrent once it's downloaded so you don't keep seeding it (although this is bad BT etiquette). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 (edited) I have a friend who was busted for downloading true blood. But I think the issue was the season she downloaded was just released on netflix, so they had been searching like a hawk for people pirating it. I guess the lesson to learn is that if it's on netflix, don't download it, especially if it has been a recent addition.She's in some major shit though. She's looking at thousands of dollars in fines and possible jail time. It's seriously doubtful they'll send her to jail but it's on the table. Edited August 18, 2012 by TeeJay410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Sounds like its pretty intense with your lot. Its definitely not as common as this in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I have a friend who was busted for downloading true blood. But I think the issue was the season she downloaded was just released on netflix, so they had been searching like a hawk for people pirating it. I guess the lesson to learn is that if it's on netflix, don't download it, especially if it has been a recent addition.She's in some major shit though. She's looking at thousands of dollars in fines and possible jail time. It's seriously doubtful they'll send her to jail but it's on the table.someone in florida was facing jail time and thousands of dollars in fines, but they threw the case out since they couldnt prove she was the was the one who was downloading the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I have a friend who was busted for downloading true blood. But I think the issue was the season she downloaded was just released on netflix, so they had been searching like a hawk for people pirating it. I guess the lesson to learn is that if it's on netflix, don't download it, especially if it has been a recent addition.She's in some major shit though. She's looking at thousands of dollars in fines and possible jail time. It's seriously doubtful they'll send her to jail but it's on the table.someone in florida was facing jail time and thousands of dollars in fines, but they threw the case out since they couldnt prove she was the was the one who was downloading the music.from looking up these cases, it seems like if they ever get to juries they don't like to convict people over downloading, or at least convict them in ways that will seriously fuck up their live. My friend should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Sounds like its pretty intense with your lot. Its definitely not as common as this in Australia.it happens here more than you think, a few of my friends had it happen to them through downloading Uni textbook/ebooks, movies mainly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I have a friend who was busted for downloading true blood. But I think the issue was the season she downloaded was just released on netflix, so they had been searching like a hawk for people pirating it. I guess the lesson to learn is that if it's on netflix, don't download it, especially if it has been a recent addition.She's in some major shit though. She's looking at thousands of dollars in fines and possible jail time. It's seriously doubtful they'll send her to jail but it's on the table.someone in florida was facing jail time and thousands of dollars in fines, but they threw the case out since they couldnt prove she was the was the one who was downloading the music.from looking up these cases, it seems like if they ever get to juries they don't like to convict people over downloading, or at least convict them in ways that will seriously fuck up their live. My friend should be fine.she will be fine, no one has ever gone to jail for downloading music or anything else.(to my recollection) if your friend doesnt admit to it or incriminate herself she should be fine, its hard to prove she was the one that downloaded the stuff. if its a shared computer how the fuck are they going to know lol. thats what the case in florida was about this women was facing 300k dollar fine, and jail time but they couldnt prove she was physically behind the computer when the download happendi think your friend will be fine IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthisriver Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I stick to private trackers. If I must use a public tracker I stop seeding as soon as I finish downloading. Never got a letter/email for any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxocubeingravy Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 1. If a movie or album is out, It's legal to download it because I am just downloading a back up of the hard copy I bought, correct?I'm pretty sure it's still illegal to download something that is copyrighted, even if you already own the media already, be it on vhs, dvd, blu ray etc.2. Will any of the programs that mask your IP make a difference if it's your own ISP and not the Torrent site that is ratting you out? Won't Verizon know it's me because it's the source? If the answer is no, can anyone suggest a good program for it?No, Peerguardian/Peerblock etc only block out "anti-p2p" establishments that have been added to a blacklist. (This is probably mostly ineffective however as these lists are too big - blocking out potential peers - and such "anti-p2p" groups could see themselves they are blacklisted and change their IP accordingly). Your ISP is still able to rat you out.3. Anyone else get one of these? The article I linked to says it was changed from July 1 to the fall, but I got the notice on July 2, so it definitely started in July unless it started in July and was halted until the fall. I had dl'd a few movies in one pop, but Prometheus was the only one I was warned on, so it must involve a request from the studio or something. I have a friend (in the UK) who received one, although I don't think it mentioned specific files (could be wrong on this). If you have 6 chances as you say, I would try again, see what happens, or just change ISP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 i download a fair bit but i never got no letter. But then i tend to download older type movies, few newies here and there but predominantly older type movies or old and sometimes obscure albums or old TV shows or music documentaries so, yeah, i don't go in for the new stuff much so maybe thats why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafał Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Is that thing that started on July 1 USA-only or worldwide/continentwide/whatever else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobodys_Fault Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 You should never download 0day content on a public tracker because the majority of the time it's a honey trap.PeerBlock does not hide you from your ISP. In fact it doesn't hide your IP at all, it just blocks others. It's more of a firewall than anything and not very useful in the realm of torrents. ISP's don't give a shit about copyright infringement. Most operate a 3 strike rule (at least) and will go out of there way to avoid prosecuting because it's bad publicity. Sending warnings is probably a legal requirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 This doesn't happen in South America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdHeartBreaker Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 17 people like this. Be the first of your friends.I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafał Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 This doesn't happen in South America. Doesn't happen here neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I stick to private trackers. If I must use a public tracker I stop seeding as soon as I finish downloading. Never got a letter/email for any of it. This.I've torrented terabytes of shit and never gotten any kind of mail. Just stop seeding when you are finish downloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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