Rauschen Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I saw Axl and Co (with Izzy!) at Vegas residency, he sounded amazing until about 2 hours into the show then Mickey came out to play. I truly do not think he chooses clean or rasp, it has everything to do with how much he is singing along with how much rest between each show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbo Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Regardless of whatever reason he's not using rasp, yes I do. Although, I believe it's just him partially losing his spark, and not giving enough of a shit to regain it.Why am I gonna go all out and pay top dollar for somebody who's not gonna go all out and give me top notch? Axl may not "owe us" anything, but that goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 No, 'cause I would never see Axl's Band live. If I did go, I'd use those 3 hours to flirt with drunk girls, get free weed, and beat Street Fighter IV on my iPhone for the umpteenth time. Who knows, maybe I'd pay attention on Jungle, or Shackler's.I just come here for the Fernando horoscope tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 You wouldn't notice a vocal change at the show, only lookin back on YouTube videos you will.I went to 5 shows in 2010 and 7 in 2012. his mickey voice on Youtube wasn't really noticeable and not distracting to the shows in 2012.Question should be, will you continue to watch YouTube videos if axl intentionally doesn't use the rasp. He spoke about the rasp after don't cry at the Dublin show this year.That wasn't about the rasp, that was about the thing he does at the end on the album where he holds the "aye" on Cry for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I saw him in Hamilton later that year and it was a fantastic show!It was and I enjoyed it more than the show in Hamilton in 2010.Nothing tops 2010 Hamilton. Twat alone makes it better. I still loved the 2011 show but hearing all the CD tunes in 2010 makes that a better show IMOI think the 2010 show was fucking great, but overall I preferred the 2011 gig. To each their own I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesecake Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I don't mind not getting rasp as long as he gives his 100% and shows that he works hard on stage to give an extraordinary great performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Un42nutzly Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Assuming Axl is choosing not to use rasp when singing live, and there's not a medical problem where he's no longer able to do it...Don't you feel cheated?You pay your hard-earned money to support a band that deserves way less of a fanbase than they possess, and Axl turns out bad performance after bad performance since Rock in Rio 2011.At one point do you stop paying and demand more of Axl? What is his motivation to try harder when the same people support him regardless of the quality of his performances?Yes we paid our hard earned money JUST to hear his rasp. Lmao the threads you guys make are idiotic. He can do what he wants, a long lasting career or 1 or 2 more years of ruining his voice with the rasp. Stupid. If you feel "cheated" dont go hahahahahaha what a concept. Edited February 25, 2013 by GNRFan53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR123GNR456 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I don't mind not getting rasp as long as he gives his 100% and shows that he works hard on stage to give an extraordinary great performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I feel cheated, because that was what made his voice so famous. Without the rasp i feel Axl is comparable with a Vince Neil skipping the words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetRose Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Sometimes 2010 rasp was a bit excessive on some songsNo such thing.Everyone who says "well he didn't use rasp on the Chinese Democracy album!" forget that his voice was garbage on most of the album.2010 was like seeing 1991 Axl do the songs from Chinese Democracy for the first time. It was fucking awesome. That's excesive raspI would rather hear this than no raspiness at all. That or either Patience voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prettytiedup88 Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Its quite amazing how little tolerance people have for Axl's voice. At the end of the day he's in the last 3rd of his career, no rocker from the 70's or 80's has the same voice capacity anymore its impossible to maintain and Axl's isnt exactly a conventional signing style. Whilst its a shame we didn't get more years of rasp due to all the bullshit, people have got to start accepting he will never sound the same as he did in the 80's or 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetRose Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Then just sing in a natural voice. Don't try to have a certain type of voice for different songs. Kinda like how Patience sounds to me. Sure there are raspy parts in Patience. But for the most part it doesn't sound much different than his speaking voice. At least to me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Being someone who attended to a 2010 show and then to a 2012 show, yes, I feel cheated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Its quite amazing how little tolerance people have for Axl's voice. At the end of the day he's in the last 3rd of his career, no rocker from the 70's or 80's has the same voice capacity anymore its impossible to maintain and Axl's isnt exactly a conventional signing style. Whilst its a shame we didn't get more years of rasp due to all the bullshit, people have got to start accepting he will never sound the same as he did in the 80's or 90's.I think the fact people do get so bothered by it is testament to how much more loved he is/was than other rockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbgnr Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The 'saving his voice' theory to me is bull....I mean Brian Johnson (AC/DC) can still rasp through an entire 2 hour set show at 64!! Why couldn´t Axl? This is rasp,but he sounds like Donald Ducks sick cousin or he's ready to cough up a lung the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarstruck Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Yep, I feel cheated. That's the trademark Axl Rose sound. If I wanted to hear something that sounds "kind of" like Axl but not as good I'd see a tribute band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Sometimes 2010 rasp was a bit excessive on some songsNo such thing.Everyone who says "well he didn't use rasp on the Chinese Democracy album!" forget that his voice was garbage on most of the album.2010 was like seeing 1991 Axl do the songs from Chinese Democracy for the first time. It was fucking awesome.This.And no, I don't feel cheated tat he's saving his voice. But I do feel cheated that he didn't sing ALL the Chinese songs in 2010. We'll probably never have versions of Twat, Prostitute and Rhiad to match the 2010 versions of the other songs. Same goes for Estranged, Civil War etc by the new band.I saw him in Hamilton later that year and it was a fantastic show!It was and I enjoyed it more than the show in Hamilton in 2010.Nothing tops 2010 Hamilton. Twat alone makes it better. I still loved the 2011 show but hearing all the CD tunes in 2010 makes that a better show IMOBut there isn't a listenable bootleg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eu4ic Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The rasp debate is more or less a debate about Axl's work ethic and drive. Most of the shitty M Mouse shows we see, Axl not coincidentally seems out of shape, not taking things seriously, merely going through the motions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The rasp debate is more or less a debate about Axl's work ethic and drive. Most of the shitty M Mouse shows we see, Axl not coincidentally seems out of shape, not taking things seriously, merely going through the motionsIt seems to clearly be a major factor, yeah. In 2006 and 2010 he came out the traps to get his new album over and gave 100%.If he and the label ever got their shit together, put a new album out properly and promoted it, I think it's quite plausible we'd here 2006-level vocals again, if not the resurrection of 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 These days even Juan 'karoke man' sounds better than Axl...agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Yep, I feel cheated. That's the trademark Axl Rose sound. If I wanted to hear something that sounds "kind of" like Axl but not as good I'd see a tribute band.Definitely THIS! Great Post! Edited February 25, 2013 by AndreCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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