Are GnR fans more stubborn than Slash or Axl?

[ohlovelyrita]

From everything I have read, I don't see why this band should have been encouraged to reform

at any point.

I read this Chaunce Hayden interview ('01) in a magazine called Steppin Out:

CH: Do you miss Guns N' Roses?

Slash: No. We had a fucking great time. The Guns N' Roses days were a blast! But you can't recreate it after a certain point. The lineup in the band had depleted so much. I just realized I couldn't keep doing it anymore. So I just split while it was still cool. (Laughs) You know?

CH: What's your opinion of Axl Rose?

Slash: I haven't talked to him since I quit. That puts that concept to rest.

CH:There has to be more to the story than that.

Slash: No, its pretty simple. He was heading in one direction and I was heading in another.It was actually a slow progression from the days when we first made a record all the way up to the final record. When our last tour ended, he made it clear which way he wanted to go musically. I tried to hang on and stay with the band as long as I could, but there was definatly limitations. It just got to the point where we couldnt work together anymore.

CH:How do you feel about Axl continuing to tour as Guns N' Roses?

Slash: Axl is making the call for whatever his 3 percent of the band is worth. He's making the call these days. My life was just miserable then. I couldn't deal with it. So I just left. So when he wanted to use the name Guns N' Roses I said sure, I didn't want anything to do with it.

Edited March 14, 2014 by ohlovelyrita

[RussTCB]

Not sure about more stubborn, but I've said this many times: I think a lot of us put far more thought into their feud than either of them do.

[Apollo]

I have no problem with Axl and Slash carrying on a grudge against each other. It's their lives, their careers, and their actions have effected each other. If either one feels anger towards the other because of the actions the other has taken - that's perfectly understandable. Which is why I don't care about a reunion. If the guys involved in the band don't want to reunite - then why should we?

Your question is hard to answer. I'd say that the fans are just as stubborn as Slash/Axl are.

It's normal for fans to take sides and prefer one guy's career over the others.

But the strange part are the ones who go to extremes - for both guys.

There are posters here who come to the forum solely to bash everything Axl does. The fat jokes, the Beta jokes, etc.

And there are posters who literally carry a hatred for Slash, simply because of how much they love Axl.

I think both groups of posters are bad for the forum and just bring negativity into every topic.

But I think that we probably just see the extremes on GnR forums. In the real world, most rock fans aren't as crazy and obsessed as we are.

I love Axl's music 1000 times more than anything Slash has done post Guns.

I love CD 100,000 times more than any VR album or Slash solo work. Though I'm really liking Anastasia right now.

And I think Axl was way more crucial to GnR's success than any of the classic members were.

But, I really admire the way that Slash treats his career and his fans compared to the way that Axl/Beta do. Slash releases music every couple of years, plays with lots of different bands, is extremely fan friendly, lets fans watch his rehearsals, published his autobiography, etc.

[ohlovelyrita]

A healthier way to look at it is how long they stayed together as collaborators instead of how things dissolved.

I made a thread about how things could have shifted but people got in the way.

"Am I grasping too hard here? It needs work.

1) Beatles got their FIRST record contract in 1962.
2) EIGHT years later in 1970, Paul McCartney announced his solo project.
3) FIVE years later Lennon reunited with Yoko in 1975; NINE years after their relationship started.
4) ONE year later in 1976, the band had a record distribution deal expiring.
That same year they were offered 50 million for a one-reunion show. The same year they were watching SNL together and strongly considered grabbing a cab to show up and reunite on-stage.


1) GN'R got their FIRST record contract in 1986
2) EIGHT years later in 1994 Slash presents completed solo material

3) FIVE years later after Slash leaves the band in 1996, he marries in 2001; NINE year of marriage later and a separation and near-divorce in 2010.
4) ONE year later in 2011, the RRHOF announces GN'R as inductees. Monetary reunion offers
are undisclosed. It appears possible they will -at minimum- accept the award together but bad press erupts (and bad blood spills again).

John and Paul were getting close again before Yoko's return. Paul even pushed for them to reunite. If Slash had divorced he might have started reaching out to his guy friends more for comfort as John did with Paul. That is unless his bio was the actual point of no renewal of friendship. I don't feel any of these guys would have been able to pick up musically where they left off and still would have gone in their respective directions but the domineering women in their lives didn't allow any script revisions. Not that the women are bad but they get the man into a routine that isn't conducive to getting carried by the wind."

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/200717-timeline-gnr-vs-the-beatles-strong-parallels-or/

Edited March 14, 2014 by ohlovelyrita

[saber_]

And there are posters who literally carry a hatred for Slash, simply because of how much they love Axl.

No offense, but this is a living, breathing delusion. No one hates Slash. People goof on Axl and Slash, to the chagrin of others. No one hates either one though, that's just preposterous. Everything is not black and white, there are shades of grey.

[D-GenerationX]

And there are posters who literally carry a hatred for Slash, simply because of how much they love Axl.

No offense, but this is a living, breathing delusion. No one hates Slash. People goof on Axl and Slash, to the chagrin of others. No one hates either one though, that's just preposterous. Everything is not black and white, there are shades of grey.

I do think a lot of the vitriol about either man is absolutely designed to get a rise out of the other side.

In other words, the opinion may be real, but its played up to cartoonish levels to break balls.

[maynard]

And there are posters who literally carry a hatred for Slash, simply because of how much they love Axl.

No offense, but this is a living, breathing delusion. No one hates Slash. People goof on Axl and Slash, to the chagrin of others. No one hates either one though, that's just preposterous. Everything is not black and white, there are shades of grey.

I do think a lot of the vitriol about either man is absolutely designed to get a rise out of the other side.

In other words, the opinion may be real, but its played up to cartoonish levels to break balls.

Exactly. But volcano hates Slash for real and he has no problem telling you that. Creepy stuff.

[ohlovelyrita]

I agree that no one really hates either. It's just a knee-jerk reaction

the way some people comment from the way neg media paint their portraits.

Celebrity bashing is media brainwashing.

Slash and Axl could have presented together IMO had not Slash

done that Rolling Stone interview weeks before. I thought the members of

GNR really hated Rolling Stone and Janda Weiner from the long history of slights.

And people didn't make the connection that Jann Wenner is the co-founder and chair

of the RRHOF and co-founder and publisher of Rolling Stone with a master plan.

WHY did Jann FORCE that outcome by running that damaging story only weeks

before in his on-line Rolling Stone magazine? For buzz/ratings for his institution and

to force Axl's hand to stay away. I believe this because they also cut Axl out of the footage

of the greatest RRHOF moments montage that played. (It was Axl and Elton John).

Slash couldn't have cared about GNR reuniting either if he said those things to the press which

is the same move that forced Axl's hand to stay away.

After that, the fans should have realized that is is mutual lack of caring but they blamed Axl only.

Why did Slash agree to go along? To promote Myles and his band. I'm guessing if Slash was in

the planning then given a choice to have Axl accept the honor with no performance,

he chose (or went along with) having Axl shunned and HIS band perform. How could Axl go there

after Jann and Slash went after him? Would you? And i'm not saying that Slash shouldn't have gone

but he shouldn't have teamed with Wenner. Best outcome: Slash and Axl could have said hello to

each other on national t.v.! And then back to not talking again!

[EvH]

And there are posters who literally carry a hatred for Slash, simply because of how much they love Axl.

No offense, but this is a living, breathing delusion. No one hates Slash. People goof on Axl and Slash, to the chagrin of others. No one hates either one though, that's just preposterous. Everything is not black and white, there are shades of grey.

I do think a lot of the vitriol about either man is absolutely designed to get a rise out of the other side.

In other words, the opinion may be real, but its played up to cartoonish levels to break balls.

= the internet.

[Iron MikeyJ]

I have no problem with Axl and Slash carrying on a grudge against each other. It's their lives, their careers, and their actions have effected each other. If either one feels anger towards the other because of the actions the other has taken - that's perfectly understandable. Which is why I don't care about a reunion. If the guys involved in the band don't want to reunite - then why should we?

Your question is hard to answer. I'd say that the fans are just as stubborn as Slash/Axl are.

It's normal for fans to take sides and prefer one guy's career over the others.

But the strange part are the ones who go to extremes - for both guys.

There are posters here who come to the forum solely to bash everything Axl does. The fat jokes, the Beta jokes, etc.

And there are posters who literally carry a hatred for Slash, simply because of how much they love Axl.

I think both groups of posters are bad for the forum and just bring negativity into every topic.

But I think that we probably just see the extremes on GnR forums. In the real world, most rock fans aren't as crazy and obsessed as we are.

I love Axl's music 1000 times more than anything Slash has done post Guns.

I love CD 100,000 times more than any VR album or Slash solo work. Though I'm really liking Anastasia right now.

And I think Axl was way more crucial to GnR's success than any of the classic members were.

But, I really admire the way that Slash treats his career and his fans compared to the way that Axl/Beta do. Slash releases music every couple of years, plays with lots of different bands, is extremely fan friendly, lets fans watch his rehearsals, published his autobiography, etc.

I like this post and agree with most of it. But what I'm having trouble with is you would rather have more music of lesser quality than less music of higher quality? I'm not defending Axl's lack of ability to release music, but I'm also not going to defend Slash's (for the most part) very mediocre out put. I guess if I had to pick I'd rather have quality over quantity. That was one of the things I always loved about gnr in the first place, maybe the old band only released 5 albums, but all 5 are quality. (even TSI is the best cover album ever imo). Or they could be like AC/DC and release something ever 5 years or so, but haven't had a decent album since the 80's (really since back in black IMHO). That's what seperated guns, from a lot of their contemoraries imo.

Yes I was expecting at least CD2 by now, but even without it songs like TWAT>>>>> all of slash's post gnr work, so who really is winning?

[Apollo]

I have no problem with Axl and Slash carrying on a grudge against each other. It's their lives, their careers, and their actions have effected each other. If either one feels anger towards the other because of the actions the other has taken - that's perfectly understandable. Which is why I don't care about a reunion. If the guys involved in the band don't want to reunite - then why should we?

Your question is hard to answer. I'd say that the fans are just as stubborn as Slash/Axl are.

It's normal for fans to take sides and prefer one guy's career over the others.

But the strange part are the ones who go to extremes - for both guys.

There are posters here who come to the forum solely to bash everything Axl does. The fat jokes, the Beta jokes, etc.

And there are posters who literally carry a hatred for Slash, simply because of how much they love Axl.

I think both groups of posters are bad for the forum and just bring negativity into every topic.

But I think that we probably just see the extremes on GnR forums. In the real world, most rock fans aren't as crazy and obsessed as we are.

I love Axl's music 1000 times more than anything Slash has done post Guns.

I love CD 100,000 times more than any VR album or Slash solo work. Though I'm really liking Anastasia right now.

And I think Axl was way more crucial to GnR's success than any of the classic members were.

But, I really admire the way that Slash treats his career and his fans compared to the way that Axl/Beta do. Slash releases music every couple of years, plays with lots of different bands, is extremely fan friendly, lets fans watch his rehearsals, published his autobiography, etc.

I like this post and agree with most of it. But what I'm having trouble with is you would rather have more music of lesser quality than less music of higher quality? I'm not defending Axl's lack of ability to release music, but I'm also not going to defend Slash's (for the most part) very mediocre out put. I guess if I had to pick I'd rather have quality over quantity. That was one of the things I always loved about gnr in the first place, maybe the old band only released 5 albums, but all 5 are quality. (even TSI is the best cover album ever imo). Or they could be like AC/DC and release something ever 5 years or so, but haven't had a decent album since the 80's (really since back in black IMHO). That's what seperated guns, from a lot of their contemoraries imo.

Yes I was expecting at least CD2 by now, but even without it songs like TWAT>>>>> all of slash's post gnr work, so who really is winning?

I totally get what you are saying.

But I think the comparison is apples to oranges.

You are using YOUR own personal preference as the guideline. You think CD is a masterpiece and that most of Slash's work is mediocre. Not everybody agrees with you. If you go to a Slash forum or Slash's twiiter or whatever and ask those guys the same question - would they rather have a Slash album every two years, or an Axl album every 20 years......the response would be much different than yours. Go to a Van Halen forum and ask if they'd rather have five VH albums in the next decade or one GnR album......See what I'm saying? If I had to choose CD2 or 5 albums from Slash, I'd choose CD2 every time.

Who is really winning? You'd have to say Slash fans. Not using our own bias (mine included), Slash fans have gotten like 10 releases since he left GnR. Axl fans have gotten one.

So the real question is would you rather have CD in your hands today.............or would you rather Axl had released albums in 2000, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2012 and they were working on one for next year? I think every GnR fan in the world would pick scenario number two.

Finally......and this is something I've asked people before and nobody ever answers. So I really am interesting in your thoughts.

Lots of people bring up the 1 quality album over quantity. Somewhat implying that Axl isn't capable of writing/creating more than one high quality song a year.

You don't think Axl has the skills/talent to put out quality music every 3-4 years? I think the guy still has the voice, talent, skills to put out high quality albums every 3-4 years.

That's why I don't really subscribe to the quantity/quality thing. I think he has the talent and skills to put out amazing music on a consistent basis. I don't think he needs 20 years to write 10 great songs.

[gunnari]

I agree that no one really hates either. It's just a knee-jerk reaction

the way some people comment from the way neg media paint their portraits.

Celebrity bashing is media brainwashing.

Slash and Axl could have presented together IMO had not Slash

done that Rolling Stone interview weeks before. I thought the members of

GNR really hated Rolling Stone and Janda Weiner from the long history of slights.

And people didn't make the connection that Jann Wenner is the co-founder and chair

of the RRHOF and co-founder and publisher of Rolling Stone with a master plan.

WHY did Jann FORCE that outcome by running that damaging story only weeks

before in his on-line Rolling Stone magazine? For buzz/ratings for his institution and

to force Axl's hand to stay away. I believe this because they also cut Axl out of the footage

of the greatest RRHOF moments montage that played. (It was Axl and Elton John).

Slash couldn't have cared about GNR reuniting either if he said those things to the press which

is the same move that forced Axl's hand to stay away.

After that, the fans should have realized that is is mutual lack of caring but they blamed Axl only.

Why did Slash agree to go along? To promote Myles and his band. I'm guessing if Slash was in

the planning then given a choice to have Axl accept the honor with no performance,

he chose (or went along with) having Axl shunned and HIS band perform. How could Axl go there

after Jann and Slash went after him? Would you? And i'm not saying that Slash shouldn't have gone

but he shouldn't have teamed with Wenner. Best outcome: Slash and Axl could have said hello to

each other on national t.v.! And then back to not talking again!

Axl would not have come to the HOF in under ANY circumstances..He hates Slash so much..Even if the HOF would have accepted his band to play (which would have never happened anyway)..Let's face it, the guy is bitter and doesn't want to meet Slash..pretty childish if u ask me

[DieselDaisy]

One thing seperating us from them, is they still think they are the bee's knees whereas we know, that nothing will match 1985-93. To a certain degree, all live in the shadow of Appetite. They may as well have retired after that record. So, Axl comes onto a casino stage in 2014 and delivers his cheesy setlist and waves his cock about like it is 1992 but ultimately, we know it is fake cack. devoid of artistry. Slash probably thinks he is recording ''Appetite part 2'' - now, as we speak - but we know that what will be released will be, unimaginative dullness or at best, modestly decent. None of them can possibly equal 1987 and there whole career is really a bunch of, failed attempts to repeat, 1987.

[jmapelian]

I guess that's the problem with having a monster debut album like afd - anything u ever do will be compared to it and you can never top it - kind of like everything michael jackson did after thriller failed to measure up

[ohlovelyrita]

One thing seperating us from them, is they still think they are the bee's knees whereas we know, that nothing will match 1985-93. To a certain degree, all live in the shadow of Appetite. They may as well have retired after that record. So, Axl comes onto a casino stage in 2014 and delivers his cheesy setlist and waves his cock about like it is 1992 but ultimately, we know it is fake cack. devoid of artistry. Slash probably thinks he is recording ''Appetite part 2'' - now, as we speak - but we know that what will be released will be, unimaginative dullness or at best, modestly decent. None of them can possibly equal 1987 and there whole career is really a bunch of, failed attempts to repeat, 1987.

From what I get these two are very regular people and seem relatively unaffected by the change of atmosphere from superstar

to non-hyped touring musicians decades later. Slash is up for anything, even a seat filler on The Price is Right. Axl is like a crazy

uncle who gets drunk at parties and lets people video him telling fun-filled Slash stories usually wearing embarrassing t-shirts!

How would you change the setlist?

I also don't see the Hard Rock Hotel stage as an improper venue. It's a venue

that host the top rock acts in the world. Vegas is so devoid of a rock scene or a rock bar---everything is horrid techno.

It's really a sad place run by Mormons (?) for the rich and boring! They put an art gallery in there once with Rembrandts,

Vermeers, etc. and it didn't even work for me. It's got this Disneyland for adults vibe, you can't concentrate there. You

can't even be bad there without that being fake bad!

[Apollo]

One thing seperating us from them, is they still think they are the bee's knees whereas we know, that nothing will match 1985-93. To a certain degree, all live in the shadow of Appetite. They may as well have retired after that record. So, Axl comes onto a casino stage in 2014 and delivers his cheesy setlist and waves his cock about like it is 1992 but ultimately, we know it is fake cack. devoid of artistry. Slash probably thinks he is recording ''Appetite part 2'' - now, as we speak - but we know that what will be released will be, unimaginative dullness or at best, modestly decent. None of them can possibly equal 1987 and there whole career is really a bunch of, failed attempts to repeat, 1987.

How would you change the setlist?

Drop some of the covers and jams and add three unreleased songs to the set-list. That would at least show that the "band" is progressing and growing artistically as a band. I know most people go to hear the classics. But I don't think anybody would go home mad if during the three hour show that GnR played three new songs!

[Val22]

The Hard rock venue was a good venue. The stage is big and it had a pretty big pit and seats in the back and seats in the balcony and all along the side of the venue too.

GNR were able to have these crane like things that Axl could climb up and places for the babes to dance during the show. Axl's piano going up during November Rain was awesome.

I wasn't too crazy about the hotel itself, but seeing the cool stuff different bands donated was cool. Axl had one of his cool convertible cars right as you walked in the hotel. Also some of his outfits from the 80's. It was pretty cool.

One section had The Rev's from A7X, drum set. That was awesome to see.

I wasn't fond of Vegas. I don't gamble or smoke or drink. We pretty much went to see GNR. We did walk to strip, which was boring to me. Saw all that in the 70's and 80's in NYC's 42nd street.

We did get to see Eli Roth's goretorium, which has since closed down.

Anyway, I know when TMS interviewed Vince Neil he talked about the Crue's residency and said he would love to see Vegas host more and more rock bands every year. I guess GNR liked it the first time around, but I guess the Crue is done. Anyway, I thought it was a cool place to see GNR.

[Iron MikeyJ]

I have no problem with Axl and Slash carrying on a grudge against each other. It's their lives, their careers, and their actions have effected each other. If either one feels anger towards the other because of the actions the other has taken - that's perfectly understandable. Which is why I don't care about a reunion. If the guys involved in the band don't want to reunite - then why should we?

Your question is hard to answer. I'd say that the fans are just as stubborn as Slash/Axl are.

It's normal for fans to take sides and prefer one guy's career over the others.

But the strange part are the ones who go to extremes - for both guys.

There are posters here who come to the forum solely to bash everything Axl does. The fat jokes, the Beta jokes, etc.

And there are posters who literally carry a hatred for Slash, simply because of how much they love Axl.

I think both groups of posters are bad for the forum and just bring negativity into every topic.

But I think that we probably just see the extremes on GnR forums. In the real world, most rock fans aren't as crazy and obsessed as we are.

I love Axl's music 1000 times more than anything Slash has done post Guns.

I love CD 100,000 times more than any VR album or Slash solo work. Though I'm really liking Anastasia right now.

And I think Axl was way more crucial to GnR's success than any of the classic members were.

But, I really admire the way that Slash treats his career and his fans compared to the way that Axl/Beta do. Slash releases music every couple of years, plays with lots of different bands, is extremely fan friendly, lets fans watch his rehearsals, published his autobiography, etc.

I like this post and agree with most of it. But what I'm having trouble with is you would rather have more music of lesser quality than less music of higher quality? I'm not defending Axl's lack of ability to release music, but I'm also not going to defend Slash's (for the most part) very mediocre out put. I guess if I had to pick I'd rather have quality over quantity. That was one of the things I always loved about gnr in the first place, maybe the old band only released 5 albums, but all 5 are quality. (even TSI is the best cover album ever imo). Or they could be like AC/DC and release something ever 5 years or so, but haven't had a decent album since the 80's (really since back in black IMHO). That's what seperated guns, from a lot of their contemoraries imo.

Yes I was expecting at least CD2 by now, but even without it songs like TWAT>>>>> all of slash's post gnr work, so who really is winning?

I totally get what you are saying.

But I think the comparison is apples to oranges.

You are using YOUR own personal preference as the guideline. You think CD is a masterpiece and that most of Slash's work is mediocre. Not everybody agrees with you. If you go to a Slash forum or Slash's twiiter or whatever and ask those guys the same question - would they rather have a Slash album every two years, or an Axl album every 20 years......the response would be much different than yours. Go to a Van Halen forum and ask if they'd rather have five VH albums in the next decade or one GnR album......See what I'm saying? If I had to choose CD2 or 5 albums from Slash, I'd choose CD2 every time.

Who is really winning? You'd have to say Slash fans. Not using our own bias (mine included), Slash fans have gotten like 10 releases since he left GnR. Axl fans have gotten one.

So the real question is would you rather have CD in your hands today.............or would you rather Axl had released albums in 2000, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2012 and they were working on one for next year? I think every GnR fan in the world would pick scenario number two.

Finally......and this is something I've asked people before and nobody ever answers. So I really am interesting in your thoughts.

Lots of people bring up the 1 quality album over quantity. Somewhat implying that Axl isn't capable of writing/creating more than one high quality song a year.

You don't think Axl has the skills/talent to put out quality music every 3-4 years? I think the guy still has the voice, talent, skills to put out high quality albums every 3-4 years.

That's why I don't really subscribe to the quantity/quality thing. I think he has the talent and skills to put out amazing music on a consistent basis. I don't think he needs 20 years to write 10 great songs.

First off, I completly admit that it all strictly my prefrance and do not have a problem what so ever with people prefering Slash's stuff over Axl's. But as I said before, I feel that a lot of it is quite average. But I don't even completly blame Slash for that because he never has been a great songwriter, so those missteps are more of an indictment of the people he choose to colaberte with. Which I guess he is accountable on that front. As far as CD goes, the only gnr album that I honestly feel it is better than is TSI. Even Lies I would have to take over CD. So I have no misconceptions that it is a master piece, but IMO it is one of the best rock albums of the decade 2000~2009. Now one could argue that, that is more an indictment of the current state of rock music as opposed to the actual quality of CD. I think it is a very good album, but great? No. The Illusions were great, and Appetite was legendary. But to be fair, I would have to say both Contraband and Slash would make my "best rock albums of the decade list" but CD is closer to the top honestly.

As far as your question about Axl's output goes, thats sort of the million dollar question I guess. If I am to be completly honest about this, I would have to say his perfectionism and fear of failer is probably a lot of it. On one hand he is a perfectionist, which in the world of art, is a really amazing quality imo. But the flip side of that coin is constantly trying to chase that elusive perfect. I think for Axl, that perfect he is chasing is as close to Queen and Zeppelin he can get, which again is admirable. And to be fair, he comes damn close on most of CD to both bands, which is a lot of what I love about CD. The only problem with that mentality is it comes off a little more contrived, while both Zep and Queen are more real, if you will. But even having said that, no other rock albums of that decade remind me of zeppelin, (which zep is my all time #1) so that gives me another reason why I love it.

But to get more on track, I do feel like Axl has some more great songs up his sleeve, but your guess is as good as mine if we will ever hear them. Like a lot of other great artists, Axl does have a sensative psychy. So fear of failer probably does have a lot to do with it. Then when you add that to the fact that everywhere he turns people are trying to get him to do a reunion, so he really doesn't have a lot of support for his endevers. I'm not trying to give him excuses, but I can sympathize with that. He really is up against the world, seems like a lonely place if you ask me. If he never releases another album during his life I will be disappointed, but I will love what I do have, just as I do with Zeppelin. Obviously it's a different set of circumstances, but the fact that zep doesn't release "new" music doesn't lessen the quality of what they did release. Same goes for gnr, I will always love what they have done, so I can't really be too disappointed.

(which I know techancally zep did release celebration day recently, which is awesome. But imho it is a step down from many other live recordings I've heard. Small step, but step none the less. and besides it's not a new studio album like what we are talking about with Axl).

[Snowmass]

Not sure about more stubborn, but I've said this many times: I think a lot of us put far more thought into their feud than either of them do.

Really........you think we put more thought into this than Axl? That dude has never got over the Slash break up.....never has....never will!

[Apollo]

Mike - I wish Axl and Beta just realized that there are millions of fans out there that sill love and adore Axl and would kill to hear whatever music he decides to share with us!!!

I think CD was the best rock album of the last decade. I think he could put this same quality level of album out every 3-4 years and easily regain his thrown as the top rock singer out there.

I'm a broken record, but imo every song doesn't have to be a masterpiece or iconic classic. Not every song has to be Estranged.......I think rock fans would love an album full of You Could Be Mine, Better, Perfect Crime, Yesterdays, Rocketqueen, Nightrain, Garden, Catcher, You're Crazy, Twat, My Michelle and Don't Damn Me.

I suppose I wish that Axl had the same confidence in his music and his skills that I have in him.