Axls Rocket Queen Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Are we talking USD or AUD?My friend spent £5000 ($8400 US) on her wedding dress. It was a beautiful dress on her, but not £5k nice...although maybe it's just that I can't wrap my head around spending that amount on a single dress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Yeah but you make them so it'd cost you fuck all = pat yourself on the back. You win life Red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 lol "boning" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Thank you Kim, that all makes sense. Lol at you only getting the brides with big boobs! I'll have a go at making a strapless dress with cups and boning like that one day. Thanks for the photos, they're really helpful.And the $5k price tag on a ready to wear wedding dress is precisely why I made my own. I spent no more than £50 on fabric, which included the best Duchess Satin I could find. I may not look as posh as most brides, but I have a dress which suits my style and I didn't lose a minute's sleep on the cost. And if Kim says she likes it then it can't be that horrendous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Are we talking USD or AUD?My friend spent £5000 ($8400 US) on her wedding dress. It was a beautiful dress on her, but not £5k nice...although maybe it's just that I can't wrap my head around spending that amount on a single dress Same diff. $A is hovering around the $US mark. The reality is that when we make them the cost of labour and overheads on the retail/production facilities sends the cost of the product through the roof. A lot of people don't understand that as you can buy a much cheaper dress that is made in china and it can still be a beautiful dress. Their workmanship there is outstanding but they tend to use cheap and nasty fabric and the fact for most people is that if you want it to fit (and a strapless dress has to fit properly) you can't get the same result unless its made locally where the fittings can be done throughout the making process as opposed to altering a ready made dress. You never get the same result. It doesn't matter if you have perfect measurements to the manufacturer, but most people don't. Yeah but you make them so it'd cost you fuck all = pat yourself on the back. You win life Red. $150 in fabric was the cost of my niece's dress. lol "boning"And it's really stiff too. You can see how erect its stands in that second pic I posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls Rocket Queen Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Are we talking USD or AUD?My friend spent £5000 ($8400 US) on her wedding dress. It was a beautiful dress on her, but not £5k nice...although maybe it's just that I can't wrap my head around spending that amount on a single dress Same diff. $A is hovering around the $US mark.The reality is that when we make them the cost of labour and overheads on the retail/production facilities sends the cost of the product through the roof. A lot of people don't understand that as you can buy a much cheaper dress that is made in china and it can still be a beautiful dress. Their workmanship there is outstanding but they tend to use cheap and nasty fabric and the fact for most people is that if you want it to fit (and a strapless dress has to fit properly) you can't get the same result unless its made locally where the fittings can be done throughout the making process as opposed to altering a ready made dress. You never get the same result. It doesn't matter if you have perfect measurements to the manufacturer, but most people don't.So are you saying the major markup is in the cost of the materials...or the production, or both?Not being a dick, I'm just genuinely confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 lol "boning"Yeah that's all I read in her post too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Are we talking USD or AUD?My friend spent £5000 ($8400 US) on her wedding dress. It was a beautiful dress on her, but not £5k nice...although maybe it's just that I can't wrap my head around spending that amount on a single dress Same diff. $A is hovering around the $US mark.The reality is that when we make them the cost of labour and overheads on the retail/production facilities sends the cost of the product through the roof. A lot of people don't understand that as you can buy a much cheaper dress that is made in china and it can still be a beautiful dress. Their workmanship there is outstanding but they tend to use cheap and nasty fabric and the fact for most people is that if you want it to fit (and a strapless dress has to fit properly) you can't get the same result unless its made locally where the fittings can be done throughout the making process as opposed to altering a ready made dress. You never get the same result. It doesn't matter if you have perfect measurements to the manufacturer, but most people don't.So are you saying the major markup is in the cost of the materials...or the production, or both?Not being a dick, I'm just genuinely confused The mark up is in the labour and operational costs of running a retail and production facility. Labour is always the biggest cost factor in any manufacturing business in the western world. The fact that the Chinese use shit fabrics is just an unfortunate side issue that detracts from the product itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcat Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 (yes, i'm fully awaere, that 1 million dollar dresses exist too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Are we talking USD or AUD?My friend spent £5000 ($8400 US) on her wedding dress. It was a beautiful dress on her, but not £5k nice...although maybe it's just that I can't wrap my head around spending that amount on a single dress Same diff. $A is hovering around the $US mark.The reality is that when we make them the cost of labour and overheads on the retail/production facilities sends the cost of the product through the roof. A lot of people don't understand that as you can buy a much cheaper dress that is made in china and it can still be a beautiful dress. Their workmanship there is outstanding but they tend to use cheap and nasty fabric and the fact for most people is that if you want it to fit (and a strapless dress has to fit properly) you can't get the same result unless its made locally where the fittings can be done throughout the making process as opposed to altering a ready made dress. You never get the same result. It doesn't matter if you have perfect measurements to the manufacturer, but most people don't.So are you saying the major markup is in the cost of the materials...or the production, or both?Not being a dick, I'm just genuinely confused The mark up is in the labour and operational costs of running a retail and production facility. Labour is always the biggest cost factor in any manufacturing business in the western world. The fact that the Chinese use shit fabrics is just an unfortunate side issue that detracts from the product itself.A lot of Indian kids went into my dress shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 You wear kids? Sick fuck. Bet you love to Wear kids as condoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcat Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 what the hell is with all those "fluffy" dresses on the red carpet of Cannes Film Festival? is it a new trend ro something?they all look like pigeons wearing themmore dresses in herehttp://www.vogue.it/en/shows/oddities/2014/05/best-dressed-cannes-film-festival-2014#ad-image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I think the designers are just looking for something different. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I know the whole lace and beading thing has been going on for a long time now, it's getting pretty boring, but the mood is still for textural detail. Feathers are a bit of thing in France too. Maison Lemarie is a Parisian feather specialist who originally started in the 1880s working in millinery. With the decline of millinery after the 1940s they had to change their direction and started working with a lot of the big fashion houses on garments. Chanel bought them out in the 1990s (along with 9 other specialist artisan ateliers) to preserve the craft and prevent them from falling into collapse. As a result they tend to always have a few pieces in the couture collections that include the work of Maison Lemarie. Both of those dresses above are Chanel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Lets make this interesting. What period dresses do you like? Could be anytime during the 20th century, 19th century, 18th and all the way back to Ancient Egypt, Persia and Greece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I like a 1940s-1950s look. The full-skirted dresses look glamourous, even if they're just cotton. They are quite easy to make, as it was a period where home sewing was popular, and they suit every figure. I also prefer the emphasis on using fabric in an interesting way rather than adding loads of lace and embellishments which was the done thing for affluent women for centuries beforehand. For over the top luxury, this film has endless fabulous period costumes. Cinderella's ballgown is fit as. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Slipper_and_the_Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 For me by far the most fascinating period in the history of costume is the Elizabethan era. The skill involved in making these dresses, not to mention the collars and the highly crafted embellishments is just extraordinary. The costumes for Elizabeth with Cate Blanchett show this best as portraits often lack a 3 dimensional quality that is important to understanding the details. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I liked the modesty of The Middle Ages. Don't get me wrong, I like short black dresses on sexy girls as much as the next guy, but a lot can be said about the Middle Ages. Definitely misunderstood. Sophie Marceau pulled it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 That looks awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracii Guns Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) That looks awful.Agreed. Is that pink velour I see before me? Edited May 31, 2014 by Gracii Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcat Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 there's this TV show, Reign, it's about Mary Queen of Scots and it is awful almost in every single way: script, actors, historical inaccuracies, etc. also it is said be a fashion catastrophe and it's heavily criticized for costumes that have very little do with Renaissance epoch. but i absolutely love those dresses and they are the only reason i watch the show from time to time. i see it like a kind of a 16th century steam-punk fashionand this is how real Mary used to dress up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45miles Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 I really loved the dress Angelina Jolie wore to the Maleficent premiere. I've seen it compared to a trash bag, but I thought it was very rock n' roll and that she wore it well. If I ever become rich, I want a closet full of Versace.Jess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 there's this TV show, Reign, it's about Mary Queen of Scots and it is awful almost in every single way: script, actors, historical inaccuracies, etc. also it is said be a fashion catastrophe and it's heavily criticized for costumes that have very little do with Renaissance epoch. but i absolutely love those dresses and they are the only reason i watch the show from time to time. i see it like a kind of a 16th century steam-punk fashionand this is how real Mary used to dress up Yeah lol! The dresses are nice but tulle definitely didn't exist during Mary's reign. And sheer bodices and slim skirts (like on the red dress) were a definite no-no. People need to realise too that these shows are made for entertainment not as an accurate historical document. It looks like a bit of fun to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhead74 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) I really loved the dress Angelina Jolie wore to the Maleficent premiere. I've seen it compared to a trash bag, but I thought it was very rock n' roll and that she wore it well. If I ever become rich, I want a closet full of Versace.JessThe dress is amazing. It has classic 1950s shape (a la Charles James) but the fabric (or PVC, more like it) makes it modern. It's great for a public event, I imagine if a non-celebrity wore it anywhere it would be more appropriate in a black Duchess silk satin. That would be stunning as well, but the event she was wearing it for is a perfect match. I love the gold studded cuffs as well. I bet she had strict instructions to keep her wrists away from the skirt. You can tell by the way she is standing that she was thinking about it. Haha! I'd have preferred to see the neckline dipped a bit in the centre front though. It would have been more flattering for her bust line.Reminds me a bit of this gorgeous leather Lanvin number: Edited June 1, 2014 by Redhead74 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45miles Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Redhead, I'm sure you're right about the cuffs--I found another pic that shows the length of those spikes. The prankster that hit Brad Pitt should just be happy that she didn't take a swing at him!That Lanvin dress is awesome, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsweetcaressl Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) I really loved the dress Angelina Jolie wore to the Maleficent premiere. I've seen it compared to a trash bag, but I thought it was very rock n' roll and that she wore it well. If I ever become rich, I want a closet full of Versace.JessThe dress is amazing. It has classic 1950s shape (a la Charles James) but the fabric (or PVC, more like it) makes it modern. It's great for a public event, I imagine if a non-celebrity wore it anywhere it would be more appropriate in a black Duchess silk satin. That would be stunning as well, but the event she was wearing it for is a perfect match. I love the gold studded cuffs as well. I bet she had strict instructions to keep her wrists away from the skirt. You can tell by the way she is standing that she was thinking about it. Haha!I'd have preferred to see the neckline dipped a bit in the centre front though. It would have been more flattering for her bust line.Reminds me a bit of this gorgeous leather Lanvin number: I really loved the dress Angelina Jolie wore to the Maleficent premiere. I've seen it compared to a trash bag, but I thought it was very rock n' roll and that she wore it well. If I ever become rich, I want a closet full of Versace.JessThe dress is amazing. It has classic 1950s shape (a la Charles James) but the fabric (or PVC, more like it) makes it modern. It's great for a public event, I imagine if a non-celebrity wore it anywhere it would be more appropriate in a black Duchess silk satin. That would be stunning as well, but the event she was wearing it for is a perfect match. I love the gold studded cuffs as well. I bet she had strict instructions to keep her wrists away from the skirt. You can tell by the way she is standing that she was thinking about it. Haha!I'd have preferred to see the neckline dipped a bit in the centre front though. It would have been more flattering for her bust line.Reminds me a bit of this gorgeous leather Lanvin number: When I first saw it I actually thought it's a modified version of this Lanvin dress.I'm not a big fan of the brand but I've always liked how Angelina looks in Versace Edited June 1, 2014 by lsweetcaressl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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