Reunion A Complete List of Facts re: Potential for Reunion

[izzy92]

The hole he dug is just too deep and his pride way too bullet proof to even contemplate making amends with Slash in his own head let alone dismantling his comfortable new perception and rapport with Guns N' Roses and rework old wounds and scarred territory, I don't know what motivation could make him scale that mountain because it wouldn't be monetary, Duff and Izzy are about five tiers below Slash's tainted pedestal in his head imo, they're small time accumulation of dirt and blood, Slash is like his heart being ripped out by a rusty chainsaw, with Steph at least he only shared one aspect of himself with her and there are expectations in fiery relationships, Slash's relationship with him is so layered and convoluted.

It's sad to think it went this far. I think if CD had been released in the late 90's and done equally as poorly he would have just said forget it and gotten the band back together. It's also sad to think that these people forget where they came from. To have the ability to one day wake up, call Slash, and create the biggest event the music industry has seen in 25 years is a heck of a lot of power. I think Robert Plant is the only other person on the planet with that kind of musical power.

The other shame is Axl's worries that management just wants their commission of a GNR reunion. Maybe that's another motivator for him...they've done nothing for him, why should he let them reap the rewards of his failure? Another reason I believe they just need to get this record deal over with a.s.a.p and move on.

[D-GenerationX]

Lot of wishful thinking in this thread.

Jut ask yourself this. Is Axl ever going to sack Team Brazil? He is not. Would any of the others ever agree to use Team Brazil? They would not.

End of story.

[supercool]

he's fought long and hard for where he's at now and seems happy.

yeah right

where he's at now is a complete artistic failure.

believe me, sooner or later, there will be a reunion.

Edited May 15, 2014 by supercool

[RandallFlagg]

He seems happy, I don't think he's done anywhere near what he could've done with the chances, time, personnel and resources he's had but fuck knows, he might be happy with just CD and touring like this.

[ShadowOfTheWave]

Axl won't give up with nothing to show for it. If there's no public apology from Slash I'd say there's a 0.00% chance of a reunion. He's already set the conditions, and he isn't one to accept defeat.

[SoulMonster]

Axl won't give up with nothing to show for it. If there's no public apology from Slash I'd say there's a 0.00% chance of a reunion. He's already set the conditions, and he isn't one to accept defeat.

Pretty much. Axl isn't a turncoat. He will easily harbour grudges for decades. And people keep saying that he is so unhappy without having reconciled with Slash, where do they get this from? He seems happy enough to me. They, on the other hand, appear unhappy with the situation. Projection.

[supercool]

if he's happy touring with those hired hands covering afd songs, axl has become mediocre and irrelevant

Edited May 15, 2014 by supercool

[SoulMonster]

if he's happy touring with those hired hands covering afd songs, axl has become mediocre and irrelevant

I think he IS happy touring a mix of songs spanning his whole career. At least he seems to be enjoying himself on stage, in interviews, and there are less rage and tantrums.

I don't know if current GN'R is mediocre as far as entertainment value goes. But yes, they are pretty irrelevant as a band. A string of releases that capture the musical zeitgeist could change that, but it is hard to top what the band did back in its heyday.

[Estranged Reality]

As to whether he feels that he bears any responsibility for the state of limbo he's in, Rose says: "You can say it's my fault, but to me it's like if you're on a plane and somebody trips you and the air marshal arrests you for falling — like it's my fault for allowing somebody to trip me?"

[D-GenerationX]

he's fought long and hard for where he's at now and seems happy.

yeah right

where he's at now is a complete artistic failure.

believe me, sooner or later, there will be a reunion.

Yours is a consequence free stance though.

If hell froze over and it happened, you'd pull 3 muscles patting yourself on the back.

But will there ever be any point in time when you step up and admit you were wrong? There will not.

[Ferrari]

Reunion will always be better than anything done by Fakegnr.

[SlashisGOD]

Sad to say but I think what we have now is all we're gonna get.

[niceguy]

What does Axl have to gain from a reunion?

He currently has enough money. He clearly doesn't care about making an artistic statement anymore. The man is 50lbs overweight, hires lookalikes to be his coverband, and plays nostalgia shows in Vegas. He clearly doesn't care

GNR wound up no different from Crüe, Poison, or Def Lep. Axl wasn't able to transcend and evolve and stay fresh. He couldn't pull a U2 or NIN or even a Bon jovi. He tried, he failed, and he appears to be at peace with it.

Maybe we all should be at peace with Axl's failure, too.

[tinyrobot]

I dont know how a reunion could happen after someone called you "cancer" and that they will be dead before talking to you again... LOL

It's ridiculous.... people should never say those things when they are mad because it fucks up everything afterwards when you are calmed.

Anyways, there's a factual fact here that may seem stupid but its not. Year 2012 was the last time SLASH WISHED HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO AXL... remember? Next year and this year was Duff only. That says it all.

Slash is done with Axl. He tried and tried and now have completely gave up on "the redhead". Slash recently said "I know he hates me with his guts".... so knowing all this, why do you still expect a reunion?

I don't know... miracles exist and I think they may call a truce if one of them or both, at some point, some day, probably during some terrible/horrible event going on in their lives, they feel they need to heal their souls before leaving this world. That's the only moment a reconciliation could happen..... but reunion? hmmmmm

[Teroz]

Ignore the high school part, but:

Not going to happen but the current state of the band is like a series of farts on a sunny afternoon so somethang interesting should happen. Having Duff back for a bit was a blast.

[Bards]

As to whether he feels that he bears any responsibility for the state of limbo he's in, Rose says: "You can say it's my fault, but to me it's like if you're on a plane and somebody trips you and the air marshal arrests you for falling — like it's my fault for allowing somebody to trip me?"

I've always wanted an interviewer to ask Axl "has anything that's ever happened in your life been a result of your actions or inaction?"

[Guest NGOG]

Axl's point is that if he had free-selection of the old band, only Slash and Duff could enhance, or at least match, the abilities of the current touring line-up.

While Frank Ferrer isn't anywhere near as technically gifted as Brain, he is definitely more technically able than Adler. Let's face it, Adler is just a gimmick drummer. Once upon a time, Izzy was a very talented songwriter. But in terms of live playing, he isn't anywhere near Fortus' league. Emphasis on an-y-wh-er-e.

Tommy has his qualities, as does Duff. They are very interchangeable, as April showed. Dj is trying to play the role of a contemporary Slash, so obviously the 'real deal' would be an improvement on the prototype we currently have. I've always thought that Slash and Fortus would be a great duo.

[DieselDaisy]

Axl's point is that if he had free-selection of the old band, only Slash and Duff could enhance, or at least match, the abilities of the current touring line-up.

While Frank Ferrer isn't anywhere near as technically gifted as Brain, he is definitely more technically able than Adler. Let's face it, Adler is just a gimmick drummer. Once upon a time, Izzy was a very talented songwriter. But in terms of live playing, he isn't anywhere near Fortus' league. Emphasis on an-y-wh-er-e.

Tommy has his qualities, as does Duff. They are very interchangeable, as April showed. Dj is trying to play the role of a contemporary Slash, so obviously the 'real deal' would be an improvement on the prototype we currently have. I've always thought that Slash and Fortus would be a great duo.

What a bunch of cack. Izzy is the beating heart of Guns N' Roses and has one of the coolest stage personas ever, whereas, GN'R have had about sixty different drummers since Adler's departure, and none have came close to capturing Adler's groove.

[Guest NGOG]

Izzy is the beating heart of Guns N' Roses and has one of the coolest stage personas ever.

Some of what you are saying may have been true, once upon a time. But one of the coolest stage personas 'ever'?

If you've seen any of the shows where he's joined Axl onstage, he is actually quite awkward.

Edited May 15, 2014 by NGOG

[Estranged Reality]

Axl's point is that if he had free-selection of the old band, only Slash and Duff could enhance, or at least match, the abilities of the current touring line-up.

While Frank Ferrer isn't anywhere near as technically gifted as Brain, he is definitely more technically able than Adler. Let's face it, Adler is just a gimmick drummer. Once upon a time, Izzy was a very talented songwriter. But in terms of live playing, he isn't anywhere near Fortus' league. Emphasis on an-y-wh-er-e.

Tommy has his qualities, as does Duff. They are very interchangeable, as April showed. Dj is trying to play the role of a contemporary Slash, so obviously the 'real deal' would be an improvement on the prototype we currently have. I've always thought that Slash and Fortus would be a great duo.

for me, a GN'R reunion would not include Adler, but it would include Sorum.

Adler's swing was a huge part of the Appetite sound, sure, but there's just no denying the guy can't really keep up anymore, and he's not in a good place mentally or physically to be touring with GN'R again. Sorum, to me, is the more appropriate and logical guy to be up there should they ever reunite.

[DieselDaisy]

I saw him in 2006 and he dresses like a genuine renagade from the '60s British groups, like the Faces or Stones. Axl may have had the silly clothes and cheesy rock poses; Slash may have raised his guitar up high and wore a tophat; but anyone with taste looking at that group can see who the coolest guy is. Izzy fuckin' Stradlin.

[Sixes]

lol Izzy

[DieselDaisy]

Who is cooler today? A guy who looks like a genuine bluesmith from the '60, or, a rotund german porn star doing the snakedance while singing like a Disney character.

[Sixes]

but he's not a genuine bluesmith from the 60's

[DieselDaisy]

We are talking about stage persona here. Axl is not a german '70s porn actor either. Slash is not an undertaker. Izzy, in my opinion, has the best image and best stage persona of Guns N' Roses. He also wrote all the songs - well, all the good ones.