Slash's 1999 domestic violence arrest

[Patience 4 Axl]

So basically everyone gives Slash the benefit of the doubt because he's created a chill public image?

You guys buy too much into celebrity hype. I bet you think Floyd Mayweather is a big jerk too, and that the Undertaker is actually dead.

Eh, no. Slash is given the benefit of the doubt based on the report of what happened, charges being dropped, and a subsequent decade long marriage to the other party involved with no additional accusations of abuse.

[bacardimayne]

And yet with Axl there were no charges and people still treat the allegations as if they were caught on tape and mailed to everyone in the country.

And before anyone says it, no, I don't think Axl is innocent, but I think it's funny how fans of the guy with a domestic assault conviction on his record think they have any grounds to stand on in going after Axl for the People magazine allegations.

Edited July 30, 2014 by bacardimayne

[RussTCB]

So basically everyone gives Slash the benefit of the doubt because he's created a chill public image?

You guys buy too much into celebrity hype. I bet you think Floyd Mayweather is a big jerk too, and that the Undertaker is actually dead.

Been staying out of this thread but I had to mention that I LOL'd at the last part of this.

[Haters Gonna Hate]

We've all shat in a kitty litter tray at one point or another.

Don't knock it till you you tried it.

[Smokin' Cigarettes]

Don't be silly bacardi.... We all know Undertaker isn't really 'dead'. But he does have super powers.

[niceguy]

You guys buy too much into celebrity hype.

But having total and unfailing faith in Axl Rose isn't "buying into celebrity hype"?

[bacardimayne]

You guys buy too much into celebrity hype.

But having total and unfailing faith in Axl Rose isn't "buying into celebrity hype"?

Are you referring to me? I haven't had what I'd call "faith" in Axl Rose for about 4 years now.

[Nosaj Thing]

I'm confused. Did he beat a woman or not?

Axl beat two women and the ones we don't know. Does that answer your question or...?

[WFA]

Yes but did he make his wife shit in a Kitty litter box or drag her around by her hair?

[Broskirose]

I think it's just because most people saw it as a fluke. Only God knows. I just personally had a hard time swallowing it. He could had just grabbed her in defense to get her off him. I mean the cops came and they didn't arrest him on the scene, so it couldn't have been that bad. It was only after Perla presumably showed some marks to the cops weeks later that got Slash charged initially, which is to the best of my knowledge standard procedure in most states. And then the charges were eventually dropped. Maybe it was a hostility issue on Perla's part. They were kinda "on again, off again" at that point weren't they? It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened. .

The bottom line is that I think most people shrugged it off because Slash never had a public history with violence, let alone women beating. That's not something that magically materializes at 34, and then drops off completely. It doesn't just come and go like that. Where all these other women that have been physically abused by Slash? What about his first wife he caught in bed chopping another dude? Surely there'd at least be one other claim. You don't just experiment with something like that once never to do have done it before or after. I don't know, it always seemed fishy to me.

Seriously?

Ya, ya carry on with your little psychotic vendetta because I made you look like a cock again yesterday.

Even you gotta be bored with the same ol' game by now

As I recall, your posts were deleted and you looked like the cock. But hey, agree to disagree. It's off topic and I won't be sucked into the Bobbo vortex.

Nice with the "psychotic" dig as always.

I will now reiterate my "seriously? :rofl-lol:" and you will sit back, shut up and take it.

Recall again, both our posts were deleted. And no, people still think you're a raging lunatic.

But care to add any substance to this, or are you just gonna keep shit posting out of spite ?

Wrong again Bobby. My post stands tall and proud. http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/208312-slash-never-performed-live-sober-until-2006/?p=3816491

The following posts responding to your hissy fit - yes those posts are gone (good riddance). And you continue to throw one now, crying about vendettas when you're the one who started up these latest sets of interactions in the first place.

I would have written "seriously " to anyone who posted what you did. You just happened to be the lucky guy. Stop whining about it and move on.

[Bobbo]

So basically everyone gives Slash the benefit of the doubt because he's created a chill public image?

You guys buy too much into celebrity hype. I bet you think Floyd Mayweather is a big jerk too, and that the Undertaker is actually dead.

Well yeah, sort of. Pretty much because of what I said in my first post and what p4a said in her's. He gets slack because of having a pretty non violent history overall, the events surrounding the incident, and for not having a single allegation prior to this or after this of abusing women. You don't just pick up and drop off women beating in your mid 30s. If the cops had even arrested him at the scene, or if he had even a single other allegation from some pair of tits from the old days, then I'd be a bit more bought on it.

As opposed to Axl who's extremely aggressive in nature, has had multiple allegations, and has had multiple witnesses seen it gone down. Even Axl admitted it somewhat ("self defense"). It's kinda apples and oranges when you look at it objectively.

[Patience 4 Axl]

And yet with Axl there were no charges and people still treat the allegations as if they were caught on tape and mailed to everyone in the country.

And before anyone says it, no, I don't think Axl is innocent, but I think it's funny how fans of the guy with a domestic assault conviction on his record think they have any grounds to stand on in going after Axl for the People magazine allegations.

A domestic assault conviction? What, in the phrase, "charges were dropped" is unclear to you?

One (well 2 really) accusations invoked a lawsuit, court testimonies, and undisclosed settlements. The other accusation involved marriage and babies. I'd say that's pretty solid ground to stand on.

[TeeJay410]

Frankly it's not as big a deal as Axl's for a lot of reasons. For one the accusations against Slash are suspect because Slash it would be wildly out of character for Slash. The story isn't quite as believable. But Axl Rose? The riot starting fan punching ex-white trash Axl Rose? Pretty believable that back in the day he got punchy with some women.

Also the way both cases turned out. Slash ended up marrying her and having two kids. Axl reached a settlement when he was accused (with Erin and Stephanie right? Or was it one or the other).

[Apollo]

And yet with Axl there were no charges and people still treat the allegations as if they were caught on tape and mailed to everyone in the country.

And before anyone says it, no, I don't think Axl is innocent, but I think it's funny how fans of the guy with a domestic assault conviction on his record think they have any grounds to stand on in going after Axl for the People magazine allegations.

A domestic assault conviction? What, in the phrase, "charges were dropped" is unclear to you?

One (well 2 really) accusations invoked a lawsuit, court testimonies, and undisclosed settlements. The other accusation involved marriage and babies. I'd say that's pretty solid ground to stand on.

That pretty much sums it up.

One guy has a history of fighting and being violent (against men and women), multiple charges against him, biting security guards, jumping into crowds, etc. He also paid 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS for Steph and Erin to drop their charges.

The other guy has one incident of this - and the woman dropped the charges, and then they got married and have babies and seem happy as can be.

Seems pretty obvious why the two men are looked at differently in terms of violence against women.

[Bobbo]

I think it's just because most people saw it as a fluke. Only God knows. I just personally had a hard time swallowing it. He could had just grabbed her in defense to get her off him. I mean the cops came and they didn't arrest him on the scene, so it couldn't have been that bad. It was only after Perla presumably showed some marks to the cops weeks later that got Slash charged initially, which is to the best of my knowledge standard procedure in most states. And then the charges were eventually dropped. Maybe it was a hostility issue on Perla's part. They were kinda "on again, off again" at that point weren't they? It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened. . The bottom line is that I think most people shrugged it off because Slash never had a public history with violence, let alone women beating. That's not something that magically materializes at 34, and then drops off completely. It doesn't just come and go like that. Where all these other women that have been physically abused by Slash? What about his first wife he caught in bed chopping another dude? Surely there'd at least be one other claim. You don't just experiment with something like that once never to do have done it before or after. I don't know, it always seemed fishy to me.

Seriously?

Ya, ya carry on with your little psychotic vendetta because I made you look like a cock again yesterday. Even you gotta be bored with the same ol' game by now

As I recall, your posts were deleted and you looked like the cock. But hey, agree to disagree. It's off topic and I won't be sucked into the Bobbo vortex.Nice with the "psychotic" dig as always.I will now reiterate my "seriously? :rofl-lol:" and you will sit back, shut up and take it.

Recall again, both our posts were deleted. And no, people still think you're a raging lunatic. But care to add any substance to this, or are you just gonna keep shit posting out of spite ?

Wrong again Bobby. My post stands tall and proud. http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/208312-slash-never-performed-live-sober-until-2006/?p=3816491The following posts responding to your hissy fit - yes those posts are gone (good riddance). And you continue to throw one now, crying about vendettas when you're the one who started up these latest sets of interactions in the first place.I would have written "seriously " to anyone who posted what you did. You just happened to be the lucky guy. Stop whining about it and move on.

Except that's not what you said, but congrats on one of your shit posts making it through the cracks.

And you'll have to excuse me for confusing that for another one of your "follow him around and attack his posts" in passive aggressive butthurt like you always do. Actually, never mind, I don't buy it.

Now run along before I have to spank you again therefore making you cry to the mods for the third time now. Honestly flattered I resorted you down to tattle tale status .

Anyways, out of respect to subs I'm done with this nonsense here regardless. PM me if you feel the need to lash out more.

[stella]

And yet with Axl there were no charges and people still treat the allegations as if they were caught on tape and mailed to everyone in the country.

And before anyone says it, no, I don't think Axl is innocent, but I think it's funny how fans of the guy with a domestic assault conviction on his record think they have any grounds to stand on in going after Axl for the People magazine allegations.

A domestic assault conviction? What, in the phrase, "charges were dropped" is unclear to you?

One (well 2 really) accusations invoked a lawsuit, court testimonies, and undisclosed settlements. The other accusation involved marriage and babies. I'd say that's pretty solid ground to stand on.

That pretty much sums it up.

One guy has a history of fighting and being violent (against men and women), multiple charges against him, biting security guards, jumping into crowds, etc. He also paid 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS for Steph and Erin to drop their charges.

The other guy has one incident of this - and the woman dropped the charges, and then they got married and have babies and seem happy as can be.

Seems pretty obvious why the two men are looked at differently in terms of violence against women.

Yep. That's really the crux of it. With Axl violence has been a common theme, and numerous people in his life who have worked with him or known him on a personal level have mentioned over and over again how frightening he gets when he's angry. Two out of the three women with whom Axl had LTRs accused him of domestic violence. The third (Gina Siler) didn't come out and say it directly, but alluded to it pretty clearly. It seems to be a constant with him. I think that even though he was never criminally convicted for any of it, the fact that the behavior seems to have been corroborated by a lot of different people and he seems to have followed the same patterns again and again does make it much more plausible.

Slash in contrast always seemed to be very calm during the GnR years. You didn't hear about him getting into fights. Later there was one allegation, it was dropped, they reconciled and there's never been a peep about any sort of DV ever again.

[Crash Diet]

Comparing people is childish, yes. But the reason why there is very little interest for Steven's legal troubles, slightly more for Slash', and much more for Axl's, is their respective popularities. People simply don't care much for Slash, and even less for Steven. If Slash was as popular as Axl he would have his own large forum, which would probably attract weirdos with nothing better to do than do criticise him for the mistakes he has made.

You do realize that Slash forums exist do you?

You should really stop this no one cares about Slash bullshit

If we followed your logic, nobody cares about GNR, Axl, Slash anymore... (which isn't true still to this day)

Because GNR fans are without a doubt the most childish, idiotic fanbase to ever exist. "Axl fans vs Slash fans" is pretty much the worst thing you'll find on the internet besides child porn.

Are you posting on child porn forums too?

because if it's so childish then i don't know why are you here

Watch out, I was called a nutter for reacting to that regard when someone came up with the wife beating shit in the other thread. Frankly, I don't give a damn. Of course domestic violence is wrong, always, doesn't matter who's doing it. End of discussion.

You do give a damn since you bringing this up

You're clearly butthurt which is funny,

I don't even remembered that thread if you don't remind me

Theres more legal trouble for the alumni of Guns N Roses.

Guitarist Slash, a.k.a. Saul Hudson, was arrested at an L.A.-area recording studio on the weekend for allegedly assaulting his estranged girlfriend. The altercation was said to have taken place in a room at the Le Parc Hotel in West Hollywood on July 19, but the unnamed woman apparently didnt lodge a complaint until later in the week.

Police officials appeared at the Sunset Boulevard facility Saturday evening (July 24) and transported the guitarist to a West Hollywood police station. He was booked and released on a $50,000 bond. Slash, who left Guns N Roses in 1996, was in the middle of a recording session for his new Slashs Snakepit album with producer Jack Douglas at the time.

According to a source close to Slash, the arrest was the latest in a week-long series of accusations and counter-accusations.

There was a lot of dont get mad, get even going on, says the source. Theres more

to this story than meets the eye, and when it all comes out, Slash will be vindicated. The source added that contrary to published reports, the couple had not been living together.

Friends and fans of the laid back guitarist are finding the story hard to believe. He never even gets mad, much less violent, says one associate.

The top-hatted rocker has previously had accounting problems related to his ex-wife, Renee, but no criminal troubles. Former Guns drummer Steven Adler, however, recently served almost three months after he was convicted of assaulting two different women in unrelated incidents (see Slash Sues Former Business Manager, Adler Sentenced To Harder Time ).

http://www.mtv.com/news/1429781/slash-arrested-for-assault/

How come nobody ever talks about this? Why is Axl the only one who gets ragged for domestic violence allegations?

It's actually been discussed numerous times. I remember a thread in the Attitude section where it went on for pages and pages.

And why not post the follow up to the story. You know, the ones that explain how Perla broke into his hotel room while he was sleeping and started assaulting him and all he did was try and hold her back until the police came and escorted her out. And how she didn't file charges until days later and then dropped them. And how they then got married and have 2 beautiful boys now.

maybe because he is a hipster?

Edited July 30, 2014 by Crash Diet

[Apollo]

And yet with Axl there were no charges and people still treat the allegations as if they were caught on tape and mailed to everyone in the country.

And before anyone says it, no, I don't think Axl is innocent, but I think it's funny how fans of the guy with a domestic assault conviction on his record think they have any grounds to stand on in going after Axl for the People magazine allegations.

A domestic assault conviction? What, in the phrase, "charges were dropped" is unclear to you?

One (well 2 really) accusations invoked a lawsuit, court testimonies, and undisclosed settlements. The other accusation involved marriage and babies. I'd say that's pretty solid ground to stand on.

That pretty much sums it up.

One guy has a history of fighting and being violent (against men and women), multiple charges against him, biting security guards, jumping into crowds, etc. He also paid 1.4 MILLION DOLLARS for Steph and Erin to drop their charges.

The other guy has one incident of this - and the woman dropped the charges, and then they got married and have babies and seem happy as can be.

Seems pretty obvious why the two men are looked at differently in terms of violence against women.

Yep. That's really the crux of it. With Axl violence has been a common theme, and numerous people in his life who have worked with him or known him on a personal level have mentioned over and over again how frightening he gets when he's angry. Two out of the three women with whom Axl had LTRs accused him of domestic violence. The third (Gina Siler) didn't come out and say it directly, but alluded to it pretty clearly. It seems to be a constant with him. I think that even though he was never criminally convicted for any of it, the fact that the behavior seems to have been corroborated by a lot of different people and he seems to have followed the same patterns again and again does make it much more plausible.

Slash in contrast always seemed to be very calm during the GnR years. You didn't hear about him getting into fights. Later there was one allegation, it was dropped, they reconciled and there's never been a peep about any sort of DV ever again.

Great post.

And really, why even continue to talk about this stuff that happened so long ago?

Neither of these guys are perfect. We've all made huge mistakes in life.

I wish we all would spend more time talking about the music rather than these guy's personal lives. All that does is lead to negativity and people fighting on here.

[magisme]

And yet with Axl there were no charges and people still treat the allegations as if they were caught on tape and mailed to everyone in the country.

And before anyone says it, no, I don't think Axl is innocent, but I think it's funny how fans of the guy with a domestic assault conviction on his record think they have any grounds to stand on in going after Axl for the People magazine allegations.

A domestic assault conviction? What, in the phrase, "charges were dropped" is unclear to you?

One (well 2 really) accusations invoked a lawsuit, court testimonies, and undisclosed settlements. The other accusation involved marriage and babies. I'd say that's pretty solid ground to stand on.

He's Canadian. He doesn't understand what conviction means in a real country.

I still don't know what Slash did, but it seems pretty clear it's nowhere near what Axl did, which of course doesn't excuse Slash if he did something, which no one seems to want to clarify.

[Patience 4 Axl]

I guess you missed my prior post in this thread that explained it.

You sure you're not from Canada either?

[magisme]

I guess you missed my prior post in this thread that explained it.

You sure you're not from Canada either?

You just can't help but be a bitch at all times, can you?

I thought you simply said the charges were dropped. I'll go back and see what you said about the incident itself. Or was that the story about her coming in hot while he was sleeping? For some reason I thought that was a different occasion.

Edit: It was the coming into the hotel room thing. Yeah, this seems like a big nothing. Incomparable to Axl's shit on every level.

Edited July 30, 2014 by magisme

[DieselDaisy]

You can tell the Axl-fans are bored as they are having to pull up all kinds of dross on a daily basis concerning Slash. DON'T WORRY Axl supporters. Axl has but deserted you: your hero will be playing the hits in empty Brazilian and Vegas venues very soon.

[Orsys]

Axl aside (I still don't know where that kitty litter story came from), there is a big difference between a guy who beats his wife and a guy who gets into a fight with his wife. The Slash arrest seemed to come from a fight between the two that got out of control. Booze, drugs probably didn't help.

I can't say he has always had a high level of respect for women, but in this situation, I just don't think it was that big a deal.

[GUNNER PT]

Theres more legal trouble for the alumni of Guns N Roses.

Guitarist Slash, a.k.a. Saul Hudson, was arrested at an L.A.-area recording studio on the weekend for allegedly assaulting his estranged girlfriend. The altercation was said to have taken place in a room at the Le Parc Hotel in West Hollywood on July 19, but the unnamed woman apparently didnt lodge a complaint until later in the week.

Police officials appeared at the Sunset Boulevard facility Saturday evening (July 24) and transported the guitarist to a West Hollywood police station. He was booked and released on a $50,000 bond. Slash, who left Guns N Roses in 1996, was in the middle of a recording session for his new Slashs Snakepit album with producer Jack Douglas at the time.

According to a source close to Slash, the arrest was the latest in a week-long series of accusations and counter-accusations.

There was a lot of dont get mad, get even going on, says the source. Theres more

to this story than meets the eye, and when it all comes out, Slash will be vindicated. The source added that contrary to published reports, the couple had not been living together.

Friends and fans of the laid back guitarist are finding the story hard to believe. He never even gets mad, much less violent, says one associate.

The top-hatted rocker has previously had accounting problems related to his ex-wife, Renee, but no criminal troubles. Former Guns drummer Steven Adler, however, recently served almost three months after he was convicted of assaulting two different women in unrelated incidents (see Slash Sues Former Business Manager, Adler Sentenced To Harder Time ).

http://www.mtv.com/news/1429781/slash-arrested-for-assault/

How come nobody ever talks about this? Why is Axl the only one who gets ragged for domestic violence allegations?

I didn't know this.

OMG ... Slash

[Broskirose]

I think it's just because most people saw it as a fluke. Only God knows. I just personally had a hard time swallowing it. He could had just grabbed her in defense to get her off him. I mean the cops came and they didn't arrest him on the scene, so it couldn't have been that bad. It was only after Perla presumably showed some marks to the cops weeks later that got Slash charged initially, which is to the best of my knowledge standard procedure in most states. And then the charges were eventually dropped. Maybe it was a hostility issue on Perla's part. They were kinda "on again, off again" at that point weren't they? It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened. . The bottom line is that I think most people shrugged it off because Slash never had a public history with violence, let alone women beating. That's not something that magically materializes at 34, and then drops off completely. It doesn't just come and go like that. Where all these other women that have been physically abused by Slash? What about his first wife he caught in bed chopping another dude? Surely there'd at least be one other claim. You don't just experiment with something like that once never to do have done it before or after. I don't know, it always seemed fishy to me.

Seriously?

Ya, ya carry on with your little psychotic vendetta because I made you look like a cock again yesterday. Even you gotta be bored with the same ol' game by now

As I recall, your posts were deleted and you looked like the cock. But hey, agree to disagree. It's off topic and I won't be sucked into the Bobbo vortex.Nice with the "psychotic" dig as always.I will now reiterate my "seriously? :rofl-lol:" and you will sit back, shut up and take it.

Recall again, both our posts were deleted. And no, people still think you're a raging lunatic. But care to add any substance to this, or are you just gonna keep shit posting out of spite ?

Wrong again Bobby. My post stands tall and proud. http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/208312-slash-never-performed-live-sober-until-2006/?p=3816491The following posts responding to your hissy fit - yes those posts are gone (good riddance). And you continue to throw one now, crying about vendettas when you're the one who started up these latest sets of interactions in the first place.I would have written "seriously " to anyone who posted what you did. You just happened to be the lucky guy. Stop whining about it and move on.

Except that's not what you said, but congrats on one of your shit posts making it through the cracks.

And you'll have to excuse me for confusing that for another one of your "follow him around and attack his posts" in passive aggressive butthurt like you always do. Actually, never mind, I don't buy it.

Now run along before I have to spank you again therefore making you cry to the mods for the third time now. Honestly flattered I resorted you down to tattle tale status .

Anyways, out of respect to subs I'm done with this nonsense here regardless. PM me if you feel the need to lash out more.

Just got back from NIN and don't care about this at all. I never reported you to anyone. Ever just think that people are sick of your shit?

Stop crying and making everything a battle. I lol'd at your dumbass post. I will now lol at it once again -

Get over it.