Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Only old School Chelsea were organised enough to do that. Messi, 10 games or so, 0 goals against Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 To be fair you lot had some pretty narrow fuckin' squeaks doing that too, the rub of the green was on your side there but your overall point is quite correct, thats not Arsenals game, it's more Chelseas. Remember those games, watched em with my old man just WILLING Chelsea on to get the job done, it was fuckin' great when they did. Di Matteo deserves more respect. I'm not for all this Arsenal vs Chelsea enmity, it's just invented, the competitive sense is there just cuz it's a London Derby but i find lately people are trying to create some sort of massive rivalry there which i don't think exists.Mourinhos specialist in failure comment got on a few tits over in North London i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 It's Mourinho vs. Wenger more than anything. The fans don't really care, and we actually hate Liverpool more than Tottenham, West Ham, Arsenal, Fulham... well, a few hate Tottenham more but generally our hate is saved for the Merchant Bankers from Scouseland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 You can't let them have the ball. Wenger should know that. It's not the defense necessarily. Its those wingers, mids, strikers closing down the ball. They just sat in the box and invited them to chip the ball in. Chelsea never did that, every player like Robben or Cole were defending. Drogba was fouling up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 You can't let them have the ball. Wenger should know that. It's not the defense necessarily. Its those wingers, mids, strikers closing down the ball. They just sat in the box and invited them to chip the ball in. Chelsea never did that, every player like Robben or Cole were defending. Drogba was fouling up the pitch.Better than Gary Lineker fouling on the pitch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Bayern last night just wow such a great team at home .... Enjoy the europa league Arsenal I think you'll find we've been in the CL for every year it's existed. How about you lot, hows your Champions League campaign last season? Oh sorry, how silly of me, cuz you didn't have one, do you? Where was it you finished again? 7th? The words 'are you Tottenham in disguise' spring to mind! Aww, nevermind eh, keep chucking transfer fees at the wall, something'll stick! And oh yeah:http://youtu.be/J-ukX3DwuaoEnjoy...i know i did...at the Emirates stadium...because unlike most of your teams supporters i can actually get to see my team 3 goals in 20 mins, dear dear dear..tell me, whens the last time you went to Old Trafford? And more importantly, how much was left out of your giro for food the rest of that week? Edited November 5, 2015 by Len B'stard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) I thought Luke was a Manc? They're top of their group in the CL right? Edited November 5, 2015 by Chris1989 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Luke lives closer to me than Manchester I thought Luke was a Manc? They're top of their group in the CL right?Sorry, i meant last season even! Ninja edit! Edited November 5, 2015 by Len B'stard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Petr Cech has great memories of the Allianz. Or at least, he did when he had a decent defence in front of him... Edited November 5, 2015 by Chris1989 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Petr Cech has great memories of the Allianz. Or at least, he did when he had a decent defence in front of him...You've got the same defence this season as well y'know I guess they don't have a decent keeper behind em! Edited November 5, 2015 by Len B'stard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Same defence as 2012?CechBosingwa Cahill Luiz ColeYes, a defence featuring Bosingwa and Luiz conceded only 1 goal to Bayern.Interesting fact. In that final, which lasted 120 minutes, only 4 substitutions were made. 3 in normal time, 1 in extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) The current one is hardly a drop in skill level from the above though are they? This is the same defence that helped you run away with the league last season, on paper I'd prefer this one to that one.And since we're talking about beating Bayern well you only need look a couple of weeks back for an example of us doing that...as well as the time before at the Allianz, no extra time required. Edited November 5, 2015 by Len B'stard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'll give Wenger credit for knowing how to play a Guardiola team. But when Pep wants that win, almost no power on earth can stop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 The current one is hardly a drop in skill level from the above though are they? This is the same defence that helped you run away with the league last season, on paper I'd prefer this one to that one.And since we're talking about beating Bayern well you only need look a couple of weeks back for an example of us doing that...as well as the time before at the Allianz, no extra time required.History, history. That all you've got?Last 3 games. You beat an out of form Swansea and got smashed by 3 goals against Wednesday and 5-1 by Bayern. It's freefall I tell ya, the clubs in crisis, WengerOut is trending on social media, the wolves are at the door!(Oh wait, oh no, just Chelsea get that treatment from the media)Funny how the Ozil cheating isn't being replayed over and over on TV, and nor were the Stoke fouls in the Carling Cup games. No endless replays of Ashley Youngs flying dive last night, just saved for Chelsea. #Campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) History, history. That all you've got?Whereas you have no history annnnnnd...Roman Abramovich?Last 3 games. You beat an out of form Swansea and got smashed by 3 goals against Wednesday and 5-1 by Bayern.Apparently the 2nd in the league equal on points with the top lads passed you by.Funny how the Ozil cheating isn't being replayed over and over on TV, and nor were the Stoke fouls in the Carling Cup games. No endless replays of Ashley Youngs flying dive last night, just saved for Chelsea. #CampaignOzil doesn't get stick? He's one of the best midfielders in the world, leading assist maker and he gets called lazy and indolent and he can't track back etc etc etc, he's got nothing but stick since he joined. And Stoke don't get stick for being cheaters and fouling etc, fuck me it's synonymous with em.Arsenal get BAGS of stick! 10 years without a trophy, soft as shite, soft in the centre, can't win nothing with kids etc etc etc...then we win two FA Cups in a row and suddenly the FA Cup is worth less than the Carling Cup.The problem is mate, at the moment your club are feeling a bit sorry for themselves, and fair play they've had a bad run of it...but is that really it, is it all the refs giving you bad desicions all the way thats taken you to 15th? No responsibility on the players, no responsibility for Mourinho basically having a public meltdown the last two weeks? The thing with Chelsea is when you lot lose it's always gotta be someone elses fault. And like, also, Costa, hand on heart now...is he not a cheat? Is he not blatantly devious? I mean be fair here, you hated Suarez when he was playing for The Pool, Costa is exactly that kind of player, a will to win type, a do it at any cost type. Personally i admire him just like I admired Suarez because i find something admirable about that...but then you can't go on about fair play and how it goes with someone else when you got someone like that on the squad.EVERY team gets stick, Arsenal get tons of it, United get tons of it, Liverpool get tons of it and so do Chelsea, its just when it's directed at you (the universal you, not you personally) it somehow feels bigger than what other folks suffer. Now I'm not saying Chelsea deserve all the stick they get but it really isn't as bad, or anywhere near as bad as this 'the whole worlds against us!' siege mentality that Chelsea have got, honestly, it don't become ya, you're a better team than that. Also, when you're champions the spotlights on you harder, it's just natural. Edited November 5, 2015 by Len B'stard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Going by the reaction around the first game, and how Bayern responded this time around, it sort of reminds me of Rahman getting a lucky punch on an overconfident Lennox and then getting smashed in the rematch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Looked more like Tyson Spinks to me last night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 You should try listening as a neutral. Every media outlet, from commentators to pundits to papers, it's all looking for the negative. They all want to destroy Chelsea.We scored over 100 goals when we won the league, a record. We were "functional" "ruthless" and never "Free flowing" or "Exciting" like those same people call Man City or Arsenal.The posession in the second half was 52/48 against Bayern in 2012, and same in extra time. But we were "hanging on" and "parking the bus" - what was Arsenals last night? 32%.The media jumped on the Eva bandwagon, but no interest in the fact that the male doctor got the same treatment and returned to work without fuss. No, they focus on the Doctor being an unprofessional diva and took to Facebook to post about it.What about the other doctor scandal? Is Andros Townsend being discussed by FIFA for giving some back to the physio last week? Bollocks is it. We make the front pages and get coverage no other team would get.Martin Skrtel is the dirtiest player in the league, but never gets picked up on it. We constantly get denied penalties when players pull ours down in the box, but it's never replayed. We'll go on and lose 1-0 but it's never discussed.Remember the Costa incident against Arsenal where he stands up to Koscienly? I have NEVER seen a replay of why he was on the floor, but we all know he was on the floor because the Arsenal player pulled him down and it should have been a penalty.The media have an agenda against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 We scored over 100 goals when we won the league, a record. We were "functional" "ruthless" and never "Free flowing" or "Exciting" like those same people call Man City or Arsenal.Thats not an insult though is it, your team just play a different way The media jumped on the Eva bandwagon, but no interest in the fact that the male doctor got the same treatment and returned to work without fuss. No, they focus on the Doctor being an unprofessional diva and took to Facebook to post about it.Anybody that does that to a bird is gonna get stick though, that ain't so much about what he did but the fact he did it to a bird. Fair play it's still wrong and unfair, i remember saying the same thing to my brother the other day, geezers get that kinda verbal all day long but that ain't to do with Chelsea or Mourinho, birds, poofters, these are just kinda issues around the game today, they're always gonna make a big thing about that, fair dues though, that don't make it right but i don't think it's indicative of any specific agenda towards Chelsea.Remember the Costa incident against Arsenal where he stands up to Koscienly? I have NEVER seen a replay of why he was on the floor, but we all know he was on the floor because the Arsenal player pulled him down and it should have been a penalty.Oh come on man! That situation was all Koscielnys doing yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Clearly Kosc started it, but that didn't fit the media storyline of the big bad villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Clearly Kosc started it, but that didn't fit the media storyline of the big bad villain.Yeah but the reaction should fit the action don't you think? And don't forget we got two red cards that game and lost an important three points in a game that looked pretty even up until that point, hardly indicative of an anti Chelsea bias.I don't 100 million percent disagree with you, Chelsea do get a bit of stick and anti-Chelsea bias sometimes but so do most teams. With Arsenal certain pundits, like that fuckin' pussy Roy Keane, makes a sport of it, you can see a palpable glee in his voice when slagging off Arsenal, sometimes he says stuff that has nothing to do with nothing on the pitch with em...but thats what it is, you take it on the chin, you don't invent this crazy paranoid 'the whole worlds against us' mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) To be fair, Keane regularly tears into his old team/manager too. The way he talks these days sounds like Clough is the only guy he ever respected in football. Edited November 5, 2015 by moreblack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) You can't let them have the ball. Wenger should know that. It's not the defense necessarily. Its those wingers, mids, strikers closing down the ball. They just sat in the box and invited them to chip the ball in. Chelsea never did that, every player like Robben or Cole were defending. Drogba was fouling up the pitch. Better than Gary Lineker fouling on the pitch!Or Scholes. But the point is put a tackle in. Every goal there was a chance to break his legs. Just a fair foul would suffice. Think psychologically Wenger isnt going to say to his team to get into them today. Because thats what teams do to them. But if you remember the Lee Dixon era. They defended ferocious. UTD Arsenal used to be a fist fight. Could still win league but City's squad is insanely strong. Edited November 6, 2015 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Bayern last night just wow such a great team at home .... Enjoy the europa league Arsenal I think you'll find we've been in the CL for every year it's existed. How about you lot, hows your Champions League campaign last season? Oh sorry, how silly of me, cuz you didn't have one, do you? Where was it you finished again? 7th? The words 'are you Tottenham in disguise' spring to mind! Aww, nevermind eh, keep chucking transfer fees at the wall, something'll stick! And oh yeah:http://youtu.be/J-ukX3DwuaoEnjoy...i know i did...at the Emirates stadium...because unlike most of your teams supporters i can actually get to see my team 3 goals in 20 mins, dear dear dear..tell me, whens the last time you went to Old Trafford? And more importantly, how much was left out of your giro for food the rest of that week?Well fuck me someone is a bit touchy aint they? Firstly i'm a season ticket holder have been since 2005.Secondly yeah we are in a period of adjustment as a club and we where out of europe last season but Wenger has been consistsntly under peforming to the standards for what 11 years now ? I would rather have 1 season at 7th than 11 seasons without the league and yet still triying to claim we are a big prem league club .... And whats this bollocks about a giro mate ? Only cunt on a giro should be Wenger mate how that old pedo has kept his job so long scares meYou lying bastard, you live in Chalfont and you've got a fuckin' season for a football team 250 miles from where you live on the other side of the country? Why you tellin' lies for Luke? As far as our being a top club in England, it aint down to your say so, its a fact but now and historically...and consistently so, which cant be said about your team which you only fuckin' support cuz you're a glory hunter jus like people from the 80s from places like Buckinghamshire that weirdly support Liverpool, cuz they were the big boys of the day and they jumped on a bandwagon.Period of adjustment, we sold off entire title winning squads and built stadiums and still didnt drop to 7th, thats without a millionaire owner breaking transfer fee records for us left right and centre see cuz we got a manager that does what is said on the tin i.e. Manage, not just throw money at a problem and hope it goes away. This is your third year now, how longs your 'period of adjustment' gonna take? Or should that be 'how much'? Edited November 6, 2015 by Len B'stard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Bayern last night just wow such a great team at home .... Enjoy the europa league Arsenal I think you'll find we've been in the CL for every year it's existed. How about you lot, hows your Champions League campaign last season? Oh sorry, how silly of me, cuz you didn't have one, do you? Where was it you finished again? 7th? The words 'are you Tottenham in disguise' spring to mind! Aww, nevermind eh, keep chucking transfer fees at the wall, something'll stick! And oh yeah:http://youtu.be/J-ukX3DwuaoEnjoy...i know i did...at the Emirates stadium...because unlike most of your teams supporters i can actually get to see my team 3 goals in 20 mins, dear dear dear..tell me, whens the last time you went to Old Trafford? And more importantly, how much was left out of your giro for food the rest of that week?Well fuck me someone is a bit touchy aint they? Firstly i'm a season ticket holder have been since 2005.Secondly yeah we are in a period of adjustment as a club and we where out of europe last season but Wenger has been consistsntly under peforming to the standards for what 11 years now ? I would rather have 1 season at 7th than 11 seasons without the league and yet still triying to claim we are a big prem league club .... And whats this bollocks about a giro mate ? Only cunt on a giro should be Wenger mate how that old pedo has kept his job so long scares meYou lying bastard, you live in Chalfont and you've got a fuckin' season for a football team 250 miles from where you live on the other side of the country? Why you tellin' lies for Luke? As far as our being a top club in England, it aint down to your say so, its a fact but now and historically...and consistently so, which cant be said about your team which you only fuckin' support cuz you're a glory hunter jus like people from the 80s from places like Buckinghamshire that weirdly support Liverpool, cuz they were the big boys of the day and they jumped on a bandwagon.Period of adjustment, we sold off entire title winning squads and built stadiums and still didnt drop to 7th, thats without a millionaire owner breaking transfer fee records for us left right and centre see cuz we got a manager that does what is said on the tin i.e. Manage, not just throw money at a problem and hope it goes away. This is your third year now, how longs your 'period of adjustment' gonna take? Or should that be 'how much'?Still a pedo .... ?I still wanna know about this season ticket you've allegedly held since 2005, you bullshitting bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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