cs0rpc Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Hi, Keen to known if they've gone back to original film elements for WTTJ, SCOM, PC and Patience and given us a properly HD mastered version of the videos on Blu-Ray? R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 From what I read and heard, video is not remastered. They do include 5.1 audio though. I'm hoping someone who actually has the blu-ray disc can confirm what I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs0rpc Posted June 29, 2018 Author Share Posted June 29, 2018 Very disappointing (and lazy) if that's the case. May sway me away from buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quikspade Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I haven’t seen the blu ray yet but the Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet Blu Ray also released by Universal had the videos in 480 but they were clean transfers. Looked sharp for 480. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 The videos on YouTube are now high resolution, so I doubt the Blu-ray has 480p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Spirit said: The videos on YouTube are now high resolution, so I doubt the Blu-ray has 480p. DISC INFO: Disc Title: GUNS_N_ROSES_Appetite_For_Destru Disc Size: 23,885,910,700 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: Yes BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 01006.MPLS Length: 0:22:40.826 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 4,968,763,392 bytes Total Bitrate: 29.21 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 4993 kbps 480i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio Undetermined 8420 kbps 5.1 / 96 kHz / 8420 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 6.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) Dolby TrueHD Audio English 7815 kbps 5.1 / 96 kHz / 7815 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps) LPCM Audio English 4608 kbps 2.0 / 96 kHz / 4608 kbps / 24-bit FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00004.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:22:40.826 4,968,763,392 29,210 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:04:37.477 4,215 kbps 10,479 kbps 00:01:52.679 6,021 kbps 00:04:11.517 5,460 kbps 00:04:12.952 17,580 bytes 142,145 bytes 00:01:10.670 2 0:04:37.477 0:05:15.581 5,584 kbps 13,352 kbps 00:06:27.286 9,549 kbps 00:06:40.733 7,996 kbps 00:06:27.286 23,290 bytes 120,649 bytes 00:08:34.480 3 0:09:53.059 0:06:49.041 5,816 kbps 12,228 kbps 00:11:11.470 9,623 kbps 00:09:53.993 8,035 kbps 00:09:53.993 24,258 bytes 102,172 bytes 00:11:23.883 4 0:16:42.101 0:05:58.725 4,136 kbps 9,416 kbps 00:16:44.703 5,876 kbps 00:16:44.636 5,108 kbps 00:16:44.703 17,253 bytes 76,234 bytes 00:18:18.297 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00004.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 1360.759 4,993 849,340,434 4,640,168 00004.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA und (Undetermined) 1360.759 8,421 1,432,333,448 7,996,487 00004.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x83 TrueHD eng (English) 1360.759 8,455 1,438,222,472 8,827,167 00004.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x80 LPCM eng (English) 1360.759 4,615 784,926,744 4,354,656 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 i watched the blu ray. It's upscaled. WTTJ, SCOM, PC and Patience are in 4:3 and It's so Easy in 16:9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setzer Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 11:44 AM, t-p-d-a said: i watched the blu ray. It's upscaled. WTTJ, SCOM, PC and Patience are in 4:3 They're not upscaled. They're only 640x480 sadly. A waste of bitrate actually, considering they're encoded in H.264 at ~30 Mbps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17NNS Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 It's that 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio mix that makes the BD worthwhile. Listen to it on a decent 5.1 set up and you'll hear Appetite like you've never heard it before. The mix is sensational. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quikspade Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, B17NNS said: It's that 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio mix that makes the BD worthwhile. Listen to it on a decent 5.1 set up and you'll hear Appetite like you've never heard it before. The mix is sensational. Thats where this disc shines. The videos are just added bonus to me. Edited July 8, 2018 by quikspade Spellcheck Sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruguns Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) Given the great reviews, UYI should be mixed in 5.1 too @Fernando Edited July 8, 2018 by uruguns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17NNS Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, uruguns said: Given the great reviews, UYI should be mixed in 5.1 too @Fernando God that would be good with the videos in 4K Edited July 8, 2018 by B17NNS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setzer Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 7 hours ago, B17NNS said: It's that 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio mix that makes the BD worthwhile. Listen to it on a decent 5.1 set up and you'll hear Appetite like you've never heard it before. The mix is sensational. Oh without a doubt! It just feels like a wasted opportunity that they didn't re-master the original videos in HD :/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 08/07/2018 at 5:27 PM, B17NNS said: It's that 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio mix that makes the BD worthwhile. Listen to it on a decent 5.1 set up and you'll hear Appetite like you've never heard it before. The mix is sensational. Did you finally buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17NNS Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 4 hours ago, EvH said: Did you finally buy it? I bought the 4 discs as 24/192 downloads. I found the Blu-Ray elsewhere 22 hours ago, Setzer said: Oh without a doubt! It just feels like a wasted opportunity that they didn't re-master the original videos in HD :/ I guess it depends how they were shot. If it was VHS there is no more quality to be extracted from the tapes. If they were shot on 35mm then I agree. A travesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setzer Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, B17NNS said: I found the Blu-Ray elsewhere Shame on you! 22 minutes ago, B17NNS said: I guess it depends how they were shot. If it was VHS there is no more quality to be extracted from the tapes. If they were shot on 35mm then I agree. A travesty. They were shot on 16mm, and the final edits were put on video tape for TV broadcasting. The ones included here are not even new copies from the TV master. But the same quality as on the old DVDs, bloated to 30Mbps H.264. A waste of space and bandwidth really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B17NNS Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, Setzer said: Shame on you! They were shot on 16mm, and the final edits were put on video tape for TV broadcasting. The ones included here are not even new copies from the TV master. But the same quality as on the old DVDs, bloated to 30Mbps H.264. A waste of space and bandwidth really. I'd have bought the blu if I could. I still will if it's ever released as a stand alone. If they were shot on 16mm then it's a shame they didn't take the opportunity to rescan them. Edited July 10, 2018 by B17NNS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millhouse83 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 8 hours ago, B17NNS said: I'd have bought the blu if I could. I still will if it's ever released as a stand alone. If they were shot on 16mm then it's a shame they didn't take the opportunity to rescan them. Given they were designed for MTV, they were probably finished to tape (at least for the most part). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setzer Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 9 hours ago, millhouse83 said: Given they were designed for MTV, they were probably finished to tape (at least for the most part). Correct. But even a new tape transfer, and some upscaling, would have looked better. SD Blu-rays are not a new concept :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockphantom Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) Does anyone else notice countless dropped frames on the classic videos on the Blu-Ray disc? My setup is a PS4 and Samsung UN65KS8000 UHDTV... Edited July 13, 2018 by rockphantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Finaly got my hands on the Blu Ray. Despite the higher bit rate, the videos look bad. Jungle is absolutely washed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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