W. Axl Kev Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Ok I'm not especially meaning Buckethead because he is now along side Slash and Duff etc. as a former member. Richard Fortus and Robin Finck. How do you feel they are creatively in the new material. I feel the guitar playing is pretty standard to be honest. It doesn't have the same originality with the old material but this doesn't seem to be a bad thing. We can all hear the simple chord slide in 'IRS' and know that were it done by another band it would be nothing special but the music just combined with Axl just somehow becomes brilliant. In other words it's almost so good because it's so simple. 'Better' has an intense Nine Inch Nails influence - Anyone can hear that and whilst the chord shifting is not as dramatic as say 'Locomotive' it still is fantastic. I'm not sure if it's once again because of Axl's influence on the record but it just seems to click. I'm sort of skimming around a point without succesfully making it. I always do that - Anyway if you get what I mean please tell me your thoughts.Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f**k_your_enemy Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 The guitar work sounds excellent to me.. sounds really fresh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 the gitar on irs i think is god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Niveen Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I've been listening to AFD this afternoon... The guitars on this album will always blow my mind ! Slash and Izzy did a fantastic job !I really like the new songs, but not because of the guitars... They fall short of being as powerful as in AFD ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I think it's pretty awesome. I.R.S. is very well done, same with Catcher. Catcher however is simplistic. Better is well layered, and I agree, like NIN. TWAT is also simplistic, but good. I agree that although simplistic, the mixing and music and vocals goes together really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobbeltvedt Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Its ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaddisonmoore Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Some of the work in Better and IRS is as good as I've heard in any Guns' songs...UK SUBS.its good but not perfect. although catcher and there was a time i think are great. and i do really like irs even though it is soo repetitive and simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RonMexico82 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Am I the only one who is disappointed by Brian Mays contribution. Maybe its just cos of the shitty sound in the demo though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Niveen Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Some of the work in Better and IRS is as good as I've heard in any Guns' songs...UK SUBS.Methinks that any AFD guitar work sounds better than the new songs. It's a matter of opinion, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Am I the only one who is disappointed by Brian Mays contribution. Maybe its just cos of the shitty sound in the demo though...Brian May isn't the most skilled guitarist anyway, and this is from a huge Queen fan. He's good, but not all that technically proficient. Don't expect miracles. I mean, Navarro worked on OMG, and most fans hate it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Manson Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Ive decided to become skeptical about everything. and wait till its out before passing judgement................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) The guitar work isnt that sweet in IRS or Better. Catchet in the Rye and There was a Time have some good guitar playing, but more in CITR than TWAT. The solo at the end of TWAT repeats itself way to much. Edited April 10, 2006 by sweetness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghan Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I think the rhythm guitars are very average. You can tell they were written back when it was just Paul Huge and Robin Fink as the guitarists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 Some of the work in Better and IRS is as good as I've heard in any Guns' songs...UK SUBS.Methinks that any AFD guitar work sounds better than the new songs. It's a matter of opinion, anyway.Buckets' solo half was through IRS is not as good as the guitar work in the song "Anything Goes"? Think about that for a second Niveen...UK SUBS.um, the dude who started the thread was talking about just Fortus and Finck. Bucket falls into the "former gunner" category already.But if you're gonna pick on Anything Goes. Listen closely to the riff happening during the verses. That riff is kick ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I really like the riffs in IRS and Better.I love the solos in CITR and The Blues.I quite like the ending solo in TWAT.I love the last solo in Better.I love the solo in IRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetite For Waiting Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 The guitar work is all right, but not ground-breaking.Catcher in the Rye: In a poppy song like this one, nobody wants nor expects original guitar work. It goes well with the melody, and that's all that really matters. That said, however, I would have liked to see what Brian May could have done with that guiar solo if he'd been given some more time allowance.TWAT: OK, so it's mainly Buckethead, but I think it's sadly unoriginal and uninspired. Half the time in the far-too-long outro he's just stealing Axl's vocal melodies and playing them with that shredding style that starts to grind very quickly.Better: The best guitar work of the lot. Quite industrial, but thankfully avoiding that NIN's sound - i.e. "where's the fuckin' off switch!?" That said, the solo is pretty uninspired and the fact that Axl mimics the guitar melody at the beginning and end with "no-one ever told me when..." just sounds stupid.IRS: Uninspired and simplistic.The Blues: Uninspired and crying out for a Slash solo.Madagascar: Is there even any guitar in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerman Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 The guitar work is all right, but not ground-breaking.Catcher in the Rye: In a poppy song like this one, nobody wants nor expects original guitar work. It goes well with the melody, and that's all that really matters. That said, however, I would have liked to see what Brian May could have done with that guiar solo if he'd been given some more time allowance.TWAT: OK, so it's mainly Buckethead, but I think it's sadly unoriginal and uninspired. Half the time in the far-too-long outro he's just stealing Axl's vocal melodies and playing them with that shredding style that starts to grind very quickly.Better: The best guitar work of the lot. Quite industrial, but thankfully avoiding that NIN's sound - i.e. "where's the fuckin' off switch!?" That said, the solo is pretty uninspired and the fact that Axl mimics the guitar melody at the beginning and end with "no-one ever told me when..." just sounds stupid.IRS: Uninspired and simplistic.The Blues: Uninspired and crying out for a Slash solo.Madagascar: Is there even any guitar in there? I gotta agree with you on this one. Good but not great and certainly not up to the hype of three supposed high powered guitarist. If these are rough drafts with more refining and mixing then the guitars are good.. as a finished product HMMMMM.... still better than 99% of the corporate crap on the market these days.Am I the only one that gets a feeling like these songs lack...soul? substance? I don't know what the word is but something is misssing.......... they don't feel like songs sweated and labored over for 13 years. They don't sound like songs that busted up the most exciting band since Led Zeppelin dove and Queen hit the skids...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) I've been listening to AFD this afternoon... The guitars on this album will always blow my mind ! Slash and Izzy did a fantastic job !I really like the new songs, but not because of the guitars... They fall short of being as powerful as in AFD ! if they made the guitar a little more powerful during the solo and the na na's in citr, it would be great,meanwhile i'd rate irs with one in a million,so lemme rephrase thisif i could place these songs on gnr's material, here's where i'd put themirs-liescd-llas(because of the simplistic nature, like most,if not all of llas)maddy-uyi 2-reminds me alot of breakdown, 14 years, yesterdays,ectthe blues-shove it right in for nrbetter-hard to place,but i'd have to put it over breakdown, cept at times breakdown gets a little repetitivetwat-estranged, no way around itrhiad-afd power to it, with afd power vocals, if we ever get a studio mix i think rhiad will be up therecitr-this fits since i don't have you or est/nromg-a tsi song, just on how different it issilkworms-my world,with a little more promise Edited April 10, 2006 by Bucketslash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anagram Of Oral Sex Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) Bucketheads solo after Axls scream about 3/4 way trhough IRS is easily the best solo ive ever heard come from a GNR solo, one of Buckets finer peices.Appetite for Wait, your "reviews' are a load of shit. I could copy and paste those exact words and put it next to any song, and it would make a little sense, and still spark an arguement.Take your head out of your ass, and widen your listening range music wise, because by the look of that shit, you don't know a damn thing. Edited April 10, 2006 by Anagram Of Oral Sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anagram Of Oral Sex Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) ...........is the correct answer!(shh, don't tell Slash fans! )UK SUBS.It just annoys me that people still think GNR is nothing without Slash and Izzy. Bullshit, GNR had 3, and now has 2 guitarists that are just as talented if not more than Slash, and Izzy combined. Along with Brain and Tommy GNR has never had such a talented group of musicians. They all had/have their own solo stuff to back it up as well. Especially Brain, and Tommy.great things are to come from greap people. Edited April 10, 2006 by Anagram Of Oral Sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickingthehabit Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 It just annoys me that people still think GNR is nothing without Slash and Izzy. Bullshit, GNR had 3, and now has 2 guitarists that are just as talented if not more than Slash, and Izzy combined. Along with Brain and Tommy GNR has never had such a talented group of musicians.That's reaching.. -Kickingthehabit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Axl Kev Posted April 10, 2006 Author Share Posted April 10, 2006 On an interesting side note I recieved an email from Richard tonight. I mailed him months ago and forgot - He is my favourite member in the band right now (aside from Axl obviously). Anyway here is what he said:Hi Kevin,Thanks for taking the time to email me. My appologies for not writingsooner, I'm quite back-logged with emails. Thanks for all of your kindwords. I hope you get the chance to see us this summer while we are inEurope. I hope that ChiDem is all you hope it will be!thanks for your support,richardCool guy B) I can't believe I was contacted by the guitarist of my favourite band *Ahem* on topic people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingoffspring Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I dont understand every one strats to judge these unmixed demos the guitar work might be mixed around or redone who why judge it now i know we got nothing but the leaks and we have waited so fucking long for these but all sings point to the album being here soon so why not just grab the new chilli peppers album for now then come back whae chinese dem comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anagram Of Oral Sex Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) That's reaching.. -KickingthehabitYou don't have to be a world class artist to start your own band, but what do your qualifications have to be to join the once greatest band in the world? Edited April 10, 2006 by Anagram Of Oral Sex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashplay Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I agree with the person who said madagascar and the blues were average. the guitar playing in madagascar is crasp. It is begging for a solo or two to be added in, because quite simply, there is no solo.the Blues...has potential, but it has such a weird sounding guitar riff, from finck. With a few tweaks and perhaps an extra verse, similar to the ones in better, would really take the song up a notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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