jack99 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 New-look Guns N' Roses returns to Los AngelesBy Gerry Gittelson, Staff Writer Article Last Updated: 12/18/2006 12:29:51 PM PSTGuns N' Roses, once the world's most popular rock band before internally combusting in the early `90s, made a triumphant return to hometown Los Angeles on Sunday with the first of three nights at Gibson Amphitheatre at Universal City. Or did they? Axl Rose, corn-rowed and a bit puffier than the skinny mad man we remember, showed up - on time, by the way - but longtime keyboardist Dizzy Reed was the only other familiar face among Rose's seven-man band. There was a late guest appearance by fellow original Izzy Stradlin on guitar, but no Slash, no Duff, no Matt Sorum, and of course no original drummer Steve Adler. The marquee said Guns N' Roses, but this felt more like an Axl solo concert than a homecoming - which isn't to say things weren't interesting, even enjoyable, and for what it's worth, a sold-out crowd of more than 6,000 roared approval. Guess there's not much hope for a full reunion, so this is as close as we're going to get to recreating the magic of primetime Guns. And you've got to give Rose credit for giving `em what they want - a two-hour-plus, 20-song set geared toward optimum crowd satisfaction. Just as Guns N' Roses might have done back in the Sunset Strip daysbefore the monster album "Appetitie For Destruction" changed the landscape of rock, the band opened Sunday with "Welcome to the Jungle," "It's so Easy" and "Mr. Brownstone." Like always, Rose slithered like a snake, owned every inch of the stage and hit his high notes commendably. Nine "Appetite" songs were tackled, including a raucous version of "Out Ta Get Me" and the show-stopping "Sweet Child `O Mine." Also, "Live and Let Die" and "November Rain" worked particularly well. Some new songs from the yet-unreleased phantom disc, "Chinese Democracy," were displayed but they weren't nearly as good as the old stuff - and the crowd patiently waited for the next hit such as "My Michelle" or "Patience," never was more than a few minutes away. It's a shame a band many consider the greatest of its era has never been able to iron out its differences through all these years. So this is what we're left with: Rose putting various musicians on stage to play his old hits under the moniker Guns N' Roses, and in the other corner the very average Velvet Revolver, featuring ex-Guns members Slash, Duff and Sorum plus singer Scott Weiland. With the possible exception of Creed, there hasn't been a rock band in years that could compare with Guns N' Roses in their prime. But we'll settle for this `06 version of Guns because there isn't another choice, although there's no doubt a lot of us left the venue Sunday wistfully longing for the good old days when "Paradise City" felt like rock's national anthem. Former Skid Row front man Sebastian Bach provided support. He looked and sounded fine but didn't go over particularly well. The bill continues tonight and Wednesday.Source: http://www.dailynews.com/music/ci_4861823Guns N' Roses can still heat things upBy Greg Burk, Special to The TimesThe rockin' Axl Rose experience legally known as Guns N' Roses is like the megabucks movie version of some gritty off-Broadway play. It won't make you forget the original, but its gloss and sprawl are not to be despised.Looking like an alien mantis, jaws parted as if to bite the head off a giant fly, Rose disdained credibility at the Gibson Amphitheatre on Sunday night while injecting further histrionic fizz into the vocal melodies of turn-of-the-'90s GNR ballads such as the buoyant "Sweet Child O' Mine" and the tenderly overfragranced "November Rain"; if he had ever drawn genuine emotion from his weeper repertoire (doubtful), those days were dust. Still, a creepy artificial buzz always rewards the absorption of Rose's headlong muggery, and when he had nothing in mind but rocking his butt off ("It's So Easy," "You Could Be Mine") and polluting his liver ("Mr. Brownstone," "Nightrain"), he took everybody along on his ambulance joyride.Pyrotechnic heat you could actually smell fired up a two-plus-hour Rose set calibrated like a Rolls engine. The pistons were a seven-piece backup band, cranked by bearded ax mechanic Robin Finck and calculated to appear even slicker by contrast with a weary and spectacularly out-of-tune Izzy Stradlin, former rhythm guitarist of the "classic" GNR, who was dragged onstage for several songs. Ingenious instrumental breaks served to pace the proceedings and revive demand for additional Axl shriekery. And a number of impressive unreleased selections — including the ramped-up "IRS," the drifting "Madagascar" and the chop-riffing "Chinese Democracy" — augured well for Guns N' Roses' upcoming album, whose endless postponement recently cracked a rift with the band's management. (The group canceled its remaining tour dates after the three Gibson shows to focus on finishing "Chinese Democracy," now targeted for release March 6, according to GNR's official website.)At the 2 a.m. curtain call, Rose said he'd soldier onward for the fans despite the dirt bag write-ups he always gets. And so he should.Sebastian Bach, the finest microphone twirler of his generation, warmed up the stage with reckless rockers ("Piece of Me") and prom ballads ("I Remember You") from his Skid Row heyday circa 1990, plus some homicidal new numbers. More than an MTV clown, the lanky Bach is a radiant entertainer; his animalistic screams and party attitude spawned grins while muscly guitarist Metal Mike Chlasciak (formerly of Halford) shredded manfully.The night's darkest moods were the gift of Helmet, whose "Monochrome" CD this year announced a return to the artistic spikes of its platinum early '90s. Gaunt, buzz-cut Page Hamilton's grating yet melodic singing, contemptuous lyrics, gut-gouging riffs and twisted guitar solos rocked metal-hard and punk-furious.The L.A. chapter of the nationwide art-sleaze phenomenon Suicide Girls opened, gyrating and undressing to Zep and Prince soundtracks within cinematic conceptual frameworks. The longtime link between metal and strippers: not broken yet.Source: http://www.calendarlive.com/music/pop/cl-e...0,1990085.story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohyesindeed Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 With the possible exception of Creed, there hasn't been a rock band in years that could compare with Guns N' Roses in their prime.WTF?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack99 Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 With the possible exception of Creed, there hasn't been a rock band in years that could compare with Guns N' Roses in their prime.WTF?!?!lol, I noticed that sentence too. If he's serious, he should really look for a new job.Here's another review from Variety.com and someone who hates GN'R... Guns N' Roses - Gibson AmphitheaterBy Steven MirkinFor a man with so much on the line, Axl Rose's 2½-hour perf at Gibson Amphitheater -- the first of three scheduled L.A. shows, and something of a homecoming -- felt pro forma and desultory. Rose took the stage as scheduled, but the combative, charismatic frontman was nowhere to be seen. He complimented the "boisterous" crowd and the "loud" room, but, other than to introduce the band, he remained silent on recent changes (a fired manager and a new release date for the much-delayed "Chinese Democracy") in the GN'R camp. The set list, heavy on "Appetite for Destruction" (accounting for nearly half of the 20-song set) and nearly ignoring "Use Your Illusion," was as much a journey through the past as the Rolling Stones' recent Dodger Stadium appearance. Rose spent a good deal of the time running around the two-tiered stage, leaning out into the aud, shaking hands with the desperation of a politician with low poll numbers, but there was no spark or connection. He's a little thicker in the middle; when he does his trademark serpentine dance moves, he occasionally puts one hand on the small of his back, as if he just pulled something. With his taut, nearly immobile facial features and cornrowed hair pulled back into a ponytail, he looked like a waxworks figure, leading to the conclusion that the only thing Rose injects these days is Botox.His voice is gone -- at times it either gave out on him completely, or was mixed so low it was barely audible. And he rarely stayed onstage for an entire song, running to the wings during the instrumental breaks or various band members' interminable solo showcases. He returned each time with a fresh shirt (Rose would quickly sweat through his clothing, although his face remained oddly dry) and a somewhat stronger voice.Rose's mood brightened late in the set when he was joined on stage by former Skid Row frontman Sebastian Bach for a playful "My Michelle." Former Guns guitarist Izzy Stradlin followed, sitting in with the band for a couple of songs, including "Patience" and a raucous "Used to Love Her."The addition of Stradlin meant there were four guitarists on stage, making the already flabby arrangements only less defined. And while Rose does give his musicians plenty of space to strut their stuff, none of them made an especially memorable impression. Their solo showcases: guitarist Robin Finke's Pink Floyd-styled prog-rock; former Psychedelic Fur Richard Fortes covering Jimi Hendrix's "Angel"; and Dizzy Reed's clumsy piano arrangement of the Stones' "Angie," stopping the already slack set dead in its tracks.The newer songs work better with the revamped line-up, but that's not much of a compliment. It's obvious Rose has been working on these songs for quite some time, which isn't to say they're very good. Their layering of guitar and keyboard parts and clunky, overwrought structures are the result of a musician who has lost all perspective.But all that focus on the album has left the band in an odd position: the tossed-off older songs are half-baked, the newer material is overcooked. What's even odder is how all this turmoil results in a show so lacking in tension and drama.Rose and his band were preceded by three acts that atomized the elements that once made Guns N' Roses so successful: Sebastian Bach embodied the sex-crazed, potty mouthed frontman, Helmet added an unyielding guitar crunch and the Suicide Girls boho-burlesque act provided the topless women that were so much a part of Guns mystique.Source: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117932333...yid=34&cs=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.W.A.T. Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Some new songs from the yet-unreleased phantom disc, "Chinese Democracy," were displayed but they weren't nearly as good as the old stuffHe needs to take the ear plugs out and have another listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyrose Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 WTF?!?!?! is right. Idiot should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Some new songs from the yet-unreleased phantom disc, "Chinese Democracy," were displayed but they weren't nearly as good as the old stuffHe needs to take the ear plugs out and have another listen.Or maybe he just has his own opinion.We'd better get used to it, because once CD does come out, you can bet there are gonna be a lot of biased reviews hitting the news-stands.I disagree with him that all the new songs are inferior to the old ones - but taste is selective, and to each his own. You can't force someone to like something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraMav Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 (edited) Maybe after the album is released people can finally move on from the "Slash isn't in the band?!" state of mind. And if he thinks Chinese Democracy songs aren't as good as the old stuff, he should be slapped. Yes that's right, he should be slapped for having a different opinion than me. Edited December 19, 2006 by Mav23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ions Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 With the possible exception of Creed, there hasn't been a rock band in years that could compare with Guns N' Roses in their prime.WTF?!?!Exactly what I thought as well. This guy needs to pull his head out of his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shananana Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 LMAO Is Mr. Gittelson for real?Creed = Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden_Johnson Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 To quote a famous movie (guest starring GN'R ): Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one...At the 2 a.m. curtain call, Rose said he'd soldier onward for the fans despite the dirt bag write-ups he alwaysgets. And so he should.^^^As long as that remains true it doesn't matter what anyone writes...they're playing for us, the fans. rock1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 talk about bad reviews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Spade Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I burst out laughing when i read that creed comparison, what a jackass. :xmassrudolph: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 He complimented the "boisterous" crowd and the "loud" room, but, other than to introduce the band, he remained silent on recent changes (a fired manager and a new release date for the much-delayed "Chinese Democracy") Did we have a release date before that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fit To Burn Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 creed and rock band in the same sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguyintheelevator Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Those assholes can't review shit. I have seen alot of shows. Nothing beats the energy of a crowd when Welcome to the jungle starts. It was a great show. Dumbass writers write negative crap because a good review doesn't sell papers. If the story was Axl came out sounded great. The show was really loud and had great sound then nobody would care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaypayton Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Creed was a piece of shit...if he said faith no more or the chili peppers or nirvana than he would have made sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funeral Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 With the possible exception of Creed, there hasn't been a rock band in years that could compare with Guns N' Roses in their prime.WTF?!?!hahahahaaaa WTF indeed. this fucking Reviewers are a joke. what a moron! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axingn'r Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 talk about bad reviewsYep. These are negative reviews. As long they don't release their album and play their own material, most of reviews will be negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunbury_hmr Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 With the possible exception of Creed, there hasn't been a rock band in years that could compare with Guns N' Roses in their prime.WTF?!?!Oh they must've forgot to add "ence Clear Water" thats all. Dont let that typo make you think that we dont love Scott Stapp enough as much as you.The reporter needs to have some actual good music sent to their office to clear out comparisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 are you assholes blind? Out of those 3 reviews, only 1 was negative. There other 2 were definitley positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Some new songs from the yet-unreleased phantom disc, "Chinese Democracy," were displayed but theyweren't nearly as good as the old stuff - and the crowd patiently waited for the next hit such as "My Michelle"or "Patience," never was more than a few minutes away.I noticed the same thing when I saw them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesire78 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 i don't think every review should be positive but i think reviews should be on the concert not comparing this band to the old one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jah772 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 With the possible exception of Creed, there hasn't been a rock band in years that could compare with Guns N' Roses in their prime.WTF?!?!lol, I noticed that sentence too. If he's serious, he should really look for a new job.Here's another review from Variety.com and someone who hates GN'R... Guns N' Roses - Gibson AmphitheaterBy Steven MirkinWith his taut, nearly immobile facial features and cornrowed hair pulled back into a ponytail, he looked like a waxworks figure, leading to the conclusion that the only thing Rose injects these days is Botox.Source: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117932333...yid=34&cs=1I really don't see any basis for the whole plastic surgery thing, yet the media keeps bringing it up as if it actually happened. If anything, he's had a little botox, but I really doubt Uncle Willy's done anything to his face to merit this kind of thrashing.Plus, his vocals have been amazing this year, way better than 1992-'93 even. I wasn't at the show last night, so i dunno if he just had an off night, but from seeing him live, and seeing all the bootlegs, his incredible voice is one of the main reasons to see show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdog311 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 With the possible exception of Creed, there hasn't been a rock band in years that could compare with Guns N' Roses in their prime.WTF?!?!beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outtagetme Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 yeah, I understood where this guy was going sort of until he said that Creed was the possible exception to Guns being the best rock band.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.