The Boxing Thread

[Len Cnut]

Bernards about to have a very long night..
So thats two rounds for Kovalev, dont think B's hit him with a single actual shot.
Sweep the leg Bernard!
Thats 4 clear rounds to Kova

Edited November 9, 2014 by Lennie Godber

[Len Cnut]

B rocked in the 8th!

[RandallFlagg]

Hopkins down in rd 1 2014-08-02 Blake Caparello 19-0-1 Revel Resort, Atlantic City, New Jersey, USA W TKO 2 12 time: 1:47 | referee: Sparkle Lee | judge: Julie Lederman | judge: John Poturaj | judge: Glenn Feldman

WBO World light heavyweight title

Kovalev down once in Round 1. Caparello down 3 times in Round 2. 2014-03-29 Cedric Agnew 26-0-0 The Ballroom, Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, USA W KO 7 12 time: 0:58 | referee: Samuel Viruet | judge: Julie Lederman 60-52 | judge: John Stewart 60-52 | judge: Alan Rubenstein 60-52

WBO World light heavyweight title (supervisor: Jose R. Izquierdo II)

Agnew down in rounds 2 & 6 Kovalev cut over right eye from accidental head butt in 4th rd., cut over left eye in 6th from clash of heads. 2013-11-30 Ismayl Sillah 21-1-0 Colisee de Quebec, Quebec City, Quebec, Canada W KO 2 12 time: 0:52 | referee: Marlon Wright | judge: Pasquale Procopio | judge: Jean Gauthier | judge: Benoit Roussel

WBO World light heavyweight title (supervisor: John Duggan) 2013-08-17 Nathan Cleverly 26-0-0 Motorpoint Arena, Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom W TKO 4 12x3 time: 0:29 | referee: Terry O'Connor | judge: Zoltan Enyedi | judge: Jose Ignacio Martinez | judge: Alfredo Polanco

WBO World light heavyweight title (supervisor: John Duggan)

Kovalev cut over right eye in 2nd rd. Cleverly down twice in 3rd rd. 2013-06-14 Cornelius White 21-1-0 Sands Casino Resort, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, USA W TKO 3 12 time: 1:45 | referee: Gary Rosato | judge: Julie Lederman | judge: Dave Braslow | judge: Ron McNair

White down three times in 3rd rd. IBF Light Heavyweight Eliminator 2013-01-19 Gabriel Campillo 21-4-1 Mohegan Sun Casino, Uncasville, Connecticut, USA W TKO 3 10 time: 1:30 | referee: Mike Ortega | judge: Steve Weisfeld | judge: Dick Flaherty | judge: Don Trella

Campillo down thrice in rd 3 2012-09-21 Lionell Thompson 12-1-0 Sands Casino Resort, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, USA W TKO 3 10 time: 0:14 | referee: Gary Rosato | judge: Dave Braslow | judge: Dave Greer | judge: Kevin Morgan 2012-06-01 Darnell Boone 19-18-3 Sands Casino Resort, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, USA W TKO 2 8 time: 1:32 | referee: Steve Smoger | judge: Julie Lederman | judge: Phil Rogers | judge: Steve Weisfeld 2011-12-05 Roman Simakov 19-1-1 DIVS, Ekaterinburg, Russia W TKO 7 12 time: 0:47 | referee: Viktor Panin | judge: Roman Petrov | judge: Semen Stakheev | judge: Floris Rakhmatullin

WBC Asian Boxing Council light heavyweight title (supervisor: Andrey Chirkov) 2011-08-27 Grover Young 5-4-0 Playboy Mansion, Beverly Hills, California, USA D TD 2 8 time: 1:31 | referee: Zac Young | judge: Jose Cobian | judge: Marty Denkin | judge: Nelson Hamilton

Accidental foul Young unable to continue 2011-07-29 Douglas Otieno Okola 23-6-0 Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA W KO 2 10 time: 2:39 | referee: Vic Drakulich

vacant NABA USA light heavyweight title 2011-05-06 Terrance Woods 8-1-0 Fantasy Springs Casino, Indio, California, USA W KO 3 8 time: 1:54 | referee: Lou Moret | judge: Daniel Sandoval | judge: Tom Taylor | judge: Fernando Villareal 2011-04-01 Julius Fogle 15-6-0 UIC Pavilion, Chicago, Illinois, USA W KO 2 8 time: 1:16 | referee: Celestino Ruiz | judge: Mauro Di Fiore | judge: John Epperson | judge: Robert Hecko

Fogle down twice in rd 2 2011-03-12 William Johnson 9-23-1 Hilton Towers Ballroom, Lafayette, Louisiana, USA W TKO 2 6 time: 1:53 | referee: Rick Exe | judge: Larry Berger | judge: Ray Clarey | judge: Keith Thibadoux 2010-12-15 Karen Avetisyan 3-1-1 Casino Vodoley, Ekaterinburg, Russia W UD 6 6 referee: Viktor Panin 2010-11-19 Dallas Vargas 22-5-0 UIC Pavilion, Chicago, Illinois, USA W TKO 2 8 time: 1:16 | referee: Pete Podgorski | judge: John Epperson | judge: Mike Fitzgerald | judge: Jerry Jakubco

Vargas down twice in rd 2 2010-10-09 Darnell Boone 17-15-3 Metro Fitness, Atlanta, Georgia, USA W SD 8 8 referee: George Chip | judge: Irwin Deutsch 76-75 | judge: Edward Kanner 76-75 | judge: Annie Rowe Morgan 75-76 2010-09-11 Kia Daniels 6-5-0 Playboy Mansion, Beverly Hills, California, USA W KO 1 6 time: 1:58 | referee: Pat Russell | judge: Carla Caiz | judge: David Mendoza | judge: Alejandro Rochin

Count waived; Daniels down twice. 2010-06-19 Harley Kilfian 8-5-0 Emerald Queen Casino, Tacoma, Washington, USA W TKO 2 6

Let us give respect for the legendary Hopkins, he hasn't faced this calibre of opponent for a long time if we're honest and he gave it much more of a defense than the vast vast majority of opponents could have managed, what a guy, but Kovalev is clearly deserving of his current status.

[Len Cnut]

Klistchko vs Pulev is fantastic so far!

[Len Cnut]

Night night Pulev.

[RandallFlagg]

Good shot from Wlad, I'd actually watch Briggs fight him just cause there's a circus sense of a spectacle about it, I haven't really thought anything compelling has occurred in a Wlad fight since Haye and that was boring cause of his toe or hibernation or whatever the heck happened to Haye in that fight.

[ronaldo9]

I liked Pulev mocking Wlad after the first knock down, only to be knocked down again a few seconds later. Great knockout. Was surprised that right hook didn't end it one round earlier. Might have been the hardest shot of the match.

Edited November 16, 2014 by ronaldo9

[RandallFlagg]

Wlad is a difficult guy to 'rate' as an all time great cause this era is pretty average compared to the previous ones. Guys like Pacquiao and Mayweather, they have a higher quality of opposition yet more or less have dominated, so we can be certain they would have a decent chance if faced up against the great welters of the past (let's also remember these two have gone up several weight classes from their 'natural' weights) but the Klitschko's... it's not an easy thing to judge.

[Bards]

I don't want to see Wlad-Briggs simply because there's no way it can be more entertaining than what's already happened between them.

[RandallFlagg]

WHERE YOU GO, I GO, CHAMP can't get over how bonkers this man is but it's comedy gold.

[Apollo]

Wlad is a difficult guy to 'rate' as an all time great cause this era is pretty average compared to the previous ones. Guys like Pacquiao and Mayweather, they have a higher quality of opposition yet more or less have dominated, so we can be certain they would have a decent chance if faced up against the great welters of the past (let's also remember these two have gone up several weight classes from their 'natural' weights) but the Klitschko's... it's not an easy thing to judge.

At some point I think you have to start at least putting him in the discussion though.

I think (and I'm sure Lenny could clear this up better) that there has really only been a few golden eras where there were multiple stud heavyweights around at the same time.

And again, I'm not as avid of a boxing fan as I was a decade ago. So you guys will know better than me. But is there any validity at all to the argument that these guys look mediocre because Klits keeps destroying them with ease? Maybe some of these number one contenders are good fighters - but they just can't hang with Vlad because of how good he is. We downgrade him because of lack of competition - but maybe the competition is actually good - he is just that much better.

All the dude does is keep destroying the top ranked guys. I think at some point he has to start moving up the "all time great" list.

ALSO -

how do you guys rate a guy for the all-time list? For his peak years or for his entire career?

At their absolute peak -I'd say that Iron Mike would defeat Vlad. But later in their careers? Like the final stage of Mike's career vs Vlad right now? I don't think there is any doubt Mike wouldn't stand a chance (don't kill me Lenny).

That's kind of the debate in sports like baseball when ranking players. Do you take their 6-year peak? Or do you take their entire 18 year career.

[RandallFlagg]

I just wrote about 8 paragraphs struggling to explain what I mean It's fucking hard to convey it, I agree with much of your points, I'll try again as the thread progresses on this discussion. Basically, I don't see the same depth/experience in Wlad's opponents resumes that Floyd and Manny have fought and beat, I was going into how the current welterweight division, well since the late 90's has been weaker than the Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Leonard, Benitez era but it's several scales up from the post-Lennox heavy era. Usually it's the presence of more than 1 dominating guy that gives the illusion an era is weak/strong but I agree with you this don't mean it's a strong/weak 'era' so to speak since the guys who never quite make the 'elite' tier are always about, it just so happens I believe looking at the resumes and fight histories/performances of the current welter era and heavyweight that Floyd/Pac have fought much higher calibre guys than Wlad.

It doesn't mean Wlad wouldn't perform well against the greats of the past, he's clearly a top 10 atg heavy, but he hasn't ran the gauntlet as much as I'd like, he's dominating ranked opponents, doing what he ought to be doing, but there's really no one anyone can say is his 'best' win apart from Haye and his two revenge wins. With Floyd you've got De La Hoya, Marquez, Mosley, undefeated Hatton, Cotto, Corrales, even Canelo is proving a great prospect - maybe only DLH is a 'elite' win but they're high quality if you look at these guys cv's and swings and roundabouts with the other guys in the weight class. An opponent like Guerrero is near the quality of the guys Klit is facing and Floyd got shit for that win. It's hard to explain, the welters are just twice as competitive and it's a lot harder to rise to the top there compared to the recent heavyweight division.

Pacquiao, legendary Mexican wars, Tim Bradley has a resume that even rivals Mayweather's first third of his career, the murderous Margarito, younger Cotto... I mean right now he is fighting what's considered a 'soft' opponent but this guy beat one of the most vicious welters around to get that shot and Pac has beaten anyone else viable and has promotional issues or he'd be mixing it with at least 6 more high class opponents, it's hard to explain, the welter division has Floyd, Manny at 'elite' then about 8 fighters considered 'great' and the rest make up the usual pool.

Golovkin is in a similar situation right now, he is in a weak divisional era, wiping everyone out in sight but has not yet faced an 'A-level' opponent, very good opponents but not quite at the level enough for many fans to consider him 'proven' ya know. Now there's little doubt Golovkin would match up well with the great middles/super welters of the past but people are itching for a Froch, Cotto, Mayweather, Canelo fight. If he don't get that opportunity people will always just kinda nod and say 'there's no one on his level BUT...', the guy can move up or down to chase fights, Wlad has always been kind of stuck, I think even Haye moved up in weight to fight him.

It's like Roy Jones Jr, phenomenal boxer but there really wasn't anyone around to challenge him for a long time.

Edited November 18, 2014 by RandallFlagg

[Len Cnut]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2839092/Manny-Pacuiao-s-obvious-Floyd-Mayweather-avoiding-fight-me.html

Glad someones finally found their fuckin' mouth, not a moment too soon either. Then again I suppose there was a dignity to his silence, his talking is done in the ring, just ask the side of Eric Moraleses head That fight broke my heart y'know, i love Erik Morales. Real Erik Morales I mean, not the Grandad you saw getting done by Danny Garcia, I'm talking about in his day.

[ronaldo9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS8WJ6Lz1AU&feature=youtu.be

[Len Cnut]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG6NAhM0GLs

I'd be very interested to see American opinions on this lad, Ronnie, TWAT and anyone else with 10 mins to spare

[RandallFlagg]

Pacquiao is doing the same thing he always does, says he wants to fight Floyd to promote his upcoming fight. I actually believe Pacquiao has always had no problem taking Floyd on but Bob Arum knows Mayweather has always been the favourite, if Floyd beat Manny, how many millions less would they have made over the last ten years? I believe Floyd offered Pacquiao a cheap deal in 2009 where it was something like HE would pay Manny $40 million and NO ppv share, and Arum had to be cut out of the deal or whatever. It looks a fair deal since Pac's knockout and fake loss to Bradley have lost him some steam but c'mon, Pacquiao vs Mayweather would gross way over $150 million MINIMUM you can't short change someone like that who attracts almost a million PPV's still without any marketing gimmicks.

I think Floyd has always feared Pacman and he's definitely been ducking him and taking Marquez's knockout as a pathetic surrogate win. I think since Floyd has lost a couple steps it's a lot more even than it would've been in 2012. I always had Floyd 60-40 the favourite now I see it 55-45 to Floyd. He can't keep saying Pacquiao has Marquez and Bradley problems since he even avenged one of those losses, beat Marquez at least once legitimately and gave a hell of a fight each time. Hasn't Khan got Garcia problems, didn't Maidana have Khan and Alexander problems, hasn't Cotto got Trout, Pacquiao and Floyd problems lol.

[Len Cnut]

Pacquiao is doing the same thing he always does, says he wants to fight Floyd to promote his upcoming fight. I actually believe Pacquiao has always had no problem taking Floyd on but Bob Arum knows Mayweather has always been the favourite, if Floyd beat Manny, how many millions less would they have made over the last ten years? I believe Floyd offered Pacquiao a cheap deal in 2009 where it was something like HE would pay Manny $40 million and NO ppv share, and Arum had to be cut out of the deal or whatever. It looks a fair deal since Pac's knockout and fake loss to Bradley have lost him some steam but c'mon, Pacquiao vs Mayweather would gross way over $150 million MINIMUM you can't short change someone like that who attracts almost a million PPV's still without any marketing gimmicks.

I think Floyd has always feared Pacman and he's definitely been ducking him and taking Marquez's knockout as a pathetic surrogate win. I think since Floyd has lost a couple steps it's a lot more even than it would've been in 2012. I always had Floyd 60-40 the favourite now I see it 55-45 to Floyd. He can't keep saying Pacquiao has Marquez and Bradley problems since he even avenged one of those losses, beat Marquez at least once legitimately and gave a hell of a fight each time. Hasn't Khan got Garcia problems, didn't Maidana have Khan and Alexander problems, hasn't Cotto got Trout, Pacquiao and Floyd problems lol.

What fuckin' Marquez problems, the guy kept beating him kept beating him kept beating him, kept giving him rematches til he ended up walking onto a shot, that ain't Marquez problems, thats being too fuckin' charitable problems, they've fought like 4 or 5 times now? In that case Floyd had fuckin' Jose Luis Castillio problems, Floyd had Emmanuel Burton problems. Floyds a fuckin' arsehole, when it's him winning he's like 'oh the judges desicion is final, blah blah blah, i got the job done' but when it's the other end he's just like 'i count such and such as a loss cuz of 'x'', don't be too consistent will ya, you cunt

And Tim Bradley problems, yeah, by beating him twice in a row. And also with the catchweights, he goes on and on about Manny fighting at catchweights for Margherito and ummm...Cotto? I think? And it's like hang on, when you're ringing the Marquez bell at Manny you're always like 'i dominated a man that he can't beat desicively', did you see the fuckin' difference in size between them two in that fight, ridiculous.

'i don't make excuses', yeah, tell it to Castillio, 'i hurt my hand, i hurt my rotator cuff', boo hoo. Brilliant fighter but an absolute cunt of a person and a blatant cherry picker. I've always respect his skill but I'll never respect him as a fighter and I'll never respect his intentions towards the game which is, end of the day, bigger than any of the individual players in it. Always. No man is bigger than the sport.

Hand on fuckin' heart now, anybody reading this, when was the last time, if ever, a mayweather fight was the highlight of your years boxing calendar? I actually can't remember the fuckin' time i deeply was interested to see a Floyd fight ever, in terms of expecting some sort of challenge to be put up. Canelo maybe, and we all know what a scrub out he was. Who before that, De La Hoya? Saw that coming, Hatton, saw that coming (shame he didn't though, eh? ), Moseley, saw that coming.

It's fuckin' jokes.

Edited November 21, 2014 by Lennie Godber

[Russel Nash]

Pacquiao is doing the same thing he always does, says he wants to fight Floyd to promote his upcoming fight. I actually believe Pacquiao has always had no problem taking Floyd on but Bob Arum knows Mayweather has always been the favourite, if Floyd beat Manny, how many millions less would they have made over the last ten years? I believe Floyd offered Pacquiao a cheap deal in 2009 where it was something like HE would pay Manny $40 million and NO ppv share, and Arum had to be cut out of the deal or whatever. It looks a fair deal since Pac's knockout and fake loss to Bradley have lost him some steam but c'mon, Pacquiao vs Mayweather would gross way over $150 million MINIMUM you can't short change someone like that who attracts almost a million PPV's still without any marketing gimmicks.

I think Floyd has always feared Pacman and he's definitely been ducking him and taking Marquez's knockout as a pathetic surrogate win. I think since Floyd has lost a couple steps it's a lot more even than it would've been in 2012. I always had Floyd 60-40 the favourite now I see it 55-45 to Floyd. He can't keep saying Pacquiao has Marquez and Bradley problems since he even avenged one of those losses, beat Marquez at least once legitimately and gave a hell of a fight each time. Hasn't Khan got Garcia problems, didn't Maidana have Khan and Alexander problems, hasn't Cotto got Trout, Pacquiao and Floyd problems lol.

What fuckin' Marquez problems, the guy kept beating him kept beating him kept beating him, kept giving him rematches til he ended up walking onto a shot, that ain't Marquez problems, thats being too fuckin' charitable problems, they've fought like 4 or 5 times now? In that case Floyd had fuckin' Jose Luis Castillio problems, Floyd had Emmanuel Burton problems. Floyds a fuckin' arsehole, when it's him winning he's like 'oh the judges desicion is final, blah blah blah, i got the job done' but when it's the other end he's just like 'i count such and such as a loss cuz of 'x'', don't be too consistent will ya, you cunt

And Tim Bradley problems, yeah, by beating him twice in a row. And also with the catchweights, he goes on and on about Manny fighting at catchweights for Margherito and ummm...Cotto? I think? And it's like hang on, when you're ringing the Marquez bell at Manny you're always like 'i dominated a man that he can't beat desicively', did you see the fuckin' difference in size between them two in that fight, ridiculous.

'i don't make excuses', yeah, tell it to Castillio, 'i hurt my hand, i hurt my rotator cuff', boo hoo. Brilliant fighter but an absolute cunt of a person and a blatant cherry picker. I've always respect his skill but I'll never respect him as a fighter and I'll never respect his intentions towards the game which is, end of the day, bigger than any of the individual players in it. Always. No man is bigger than the sport.

Hand on fuckin' heart now, anybody reading this, when was the last time, if ever, a mayweather fight was the highlight of your years boxing calendar? I actually can't remember the fuckin' time i deeply was interested to see a Floyd fight ever, in terms of expecting some sort of challenge to be put up. Canelo maybe, and we all know what a scrub out he was. Who before that, De La Hoya? Saw that coming, Hatton, saw that coming (shame he didn't though, eh? ), Moseley, saw that coming.

It's fuckin' jokes.

This.

I would like to see Floyd getting out of his comfort zone just for once. Let another company make the fight. Do it outside Vegas n stuff. And fight the best out there.

[Len Cnut]

You make a good point there Russell, particularly the bit about 'do it outside Vegas'. Cuz y'know, something occurs to me, reminds of something Ali once said. The champion of the WORLD. The WHOLE world. Right? So why the fuck is it these guys only fight in their own countries?

This is what I mean about these motherfuckers having no respect for the titles, you wannabe a world champion, fine, good, be a fuckin' world champion, go across the world, take boxing to the world and fight people in their own backyard. Ali did it. Ali fought in The Congo, in Kuala Lumpur, in Manilla in the Phillipines, in England (once in Wembley, once at Highbury Where's Tony Adams when you need him eh? ), in Germany, Ali fought all over the fuckin' place. Cuz thats what it is to be a world champion.

Supposed to have pride in that shit. It really sickens me when i hear things like 'a belt don't make me!', oh well thats convenient isn't it, so you get to define the parameters? Fine, in that case, a boxing record don't make me, just cuz i don't have one don't mean to say I'm not The Best Ever, i just can't be bothered to prove it, so up yours Floyd Mayweather, Ali, Tyson, Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Len is the greatest of all time and you'll know exactly when i decide i feel like proving it. Doesn't fucking wash, does it?

[Russel Nash]

You make a good point there Russell, particularly the bit about 'do it outside Vegas'. Cuz y'know, something occurs to me, reminds of something Ali once said. The champion of the WORLD. The WHOLE world. Right? So why the fuck is it these guys only fight in their own countries?

This is what I mean about these motherfuckers having no respect for the titles, you wannabe a world champion, fine, good, be a fuckin' world champion, go across the world, take boxing to the world and fight people in their own backyard. Ali did it. Ali fought in The Congo, in Kuala Lumpur, in Manilla in the Phillipines, in England (once in Wembley, once at Highbury Where's Tony Adams when you need him eh? ), in Germany, Ali fought all over the fuckin' place. Cuz thats what it is to be a world champion.

Supposed to have pride in that shit. It really sickens me when i hear things like 'a belt don't make me!', oh well thats convenient isn't it, so you get to define the parameters? Fine, in that case, a boxing record don't make me, just cuz i don't have one don't mean to say I'm not The Best Ever, i just can't be bothered to prove it, so up yours Floyd Mayweather, Ali, Tyson, Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, Len is the greatest of all time and you'll know exactly when i decide i feel like proving it. Doesn't fucking wash, does it?

Ali was something really special. He really want to prove that he was the best in the world. He was a freedom fighter in and outside the ring.

Today is all about the money and tweeter. "Look all the money i made that night, i got J. bebier to suck my balls before and after the fight"

[RandallFlagg]

Agree with what you guys have said. It also begs the question, calling yourself TBE and 'Money' wouldn't you go after Pacman at least twice, then fucking Golovkin... if you're The Best Ever why don't you prove it? Pacquiao is who everyone is calling for you to fight the last 4 years, Pacquiao is clearly the 2nd best welter out there, Pacquiao is making the most money behind you, Pacquiao would be far and away your toughest test, Pacquiao is a fellow ATG, Pacquaio showed balls coming back from being KTFO by his fierce rival (who he faced 4 times...)... it's beyond comprehension why Mayweather would continue to run, making every excuse in the book and still be deluded enough to think he is 'TBE'. Phenomenal boxer, not untouchable but an undisputed genius in the ring, Pacquaio is a completely different breed but they're both supreme products of the sport.

Also, if Cotto can take on Maravilla and Floyd has fought Canelo, Ortiz, Maidana and Cotto who've weighed around 160 on fight night, he can take on Golovkin.

[spunko12345]

Is anyone buying the box office ppv for the Cleverly/Bellew etc fights. I'd love Belles to get ko,d cos he seems a total bellend but can't see it happening. Thoughts?

[Len Cnut]

I dont particularly care for either of em and i think its gonna be more hype than any great fight but im still watching it, a few fights on tonight actually, AJs fighting Michael Sprott, Cleverley Bellew, others too

What i am keen to see is Billy Joe Saunders vs Chris Eubank Jnr. Watch this video Spunx, i guarantee you'll crack up

Now if that ain't taking it too far 'him and his brother got raped in boarding school'

Edited November 22, 2014 by Lennie Godber

[streak]

Floyd and Manny should fuck off and retire.

[spunko12345]

I dont particularly care for either of em and i think its gonna be more hype than any great fight but im still watching it, a few fights on tonight actually, AJs fighting Michael Sprott, Cleverley Bellew, others too

What i am keen to see is Billy Joe Saunders vs Chris Eubank Jnr. Watch this video Spunx, i guarantee you'll crack up

Now if that ain't taking it too far 'him and his brother got raped in boarding school'

I dont particularly care for either of em and i think its gonna be more hype than any great fight but im still watching it, a few fights on tonight actually, AJs fighting Michael Sprott, Cleverley Bellew, others too

What i am keen to see is Billy Joe Saunders vs Chris Eubank Jnr. Watch this video Spunx, i guarantee you'll crack up

Now if that ain't taking it too far 'him and his brother got raped in boarding school'

Haha he doesn't think to much of him does he. The very beginning he's just blurting out a spray of insults. "Just heard a rumour that his dad headbutted him for riding a bike to the shop to buy a paper" lol Edited November 22, 2014 by spunko12345