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1 hour ago, Zeppelin said:

Some of you live in a fantasy world. Beyoncé can drop dates and people will pay thousands of dollars and it'll sell out without issue. I think some of you legitimately think GNR will drop a stadium tour announcement (of any capacity) and legions of people will be foaming at the mouths, stampeding each other to buy tickets.

I'm not sure what some of you are smoking, but kindly pass it over.

They did play stadiums last year. They played stadiums in the US 2 years ago, when all of you said that no one will show up. So really, shove it with your arrogance. Why shouldn't they be able to do so again? A limited run, in different cities. Why not? And no one is talking about every show being sold out. Also tickets for GNR don't cost thousands of dollars.

8 minutes ago, Natty said:

Exactly- the GNR fanbase that will go a concert „no matter what“ is not big enough to  sell out stadiums. And the common rock fan is tired of GNR. When I told a friend of mine that GNR is likely to tour Europe this summer she responded „again? They ve been here so often since the reunion and don t offer anything new… therefore many common rock fans won t buy a ticket to see them. And one new single (if that may come) doesn t change a thing. There was no hype among rock fans after „hard school“

We'll see about that. Point is, even stadium tours can be announced late. And there was a good turn out on their last tour. So it can be again. And '17,18' and '22 is not really often. Also who says the stadium needs to be sold out? At the prices they are chargin 2 thirds of available tickets sold is good enough too.,

11 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

Are people seriously using the Stones and Beyonce as examples that GNR could sell out stadiums quickly? 

In 2016-17 GNR were as big of a draw as them, but now? Wtf are you people smoking!? 

What does it matter? Either people want to go to a concert or not. They are not magically are gonna want to go, because tickets are available for a year. People who want a good seat/category will buy as soon as they go on sale and the others will have to buy before the concert happens. So, whatever.

18 hours ago, Natty said:

The source you quote  is saying „non official source“ . I tend to believe the hyde park thing is a one off europe gig for GNR. It s quite late to announce stadium gigs for June only in February or later. 

Again. Rolling Stones announced their 2022 stadium tour that started on June 1st on March 13th.

37 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

100 per cent. Slash and Duff returning has meant fuck all other than us getting a chance to see them play onstage together, a novelty that has worn very thin now. 

Other than higher ticket prices, it's exactly the same as it was before they returned now. They seem to have as much sway as Bumblefoot and Stinson had in terms of moving forwards. 

True. But still, I rather see them than fake GNR. It's only so often I can pretend that Axl is the only one on stage. That was wearing thin too.

53 minutes ago, ChristmasFnatic said:

I mean, maybe Hyde told them not to announce the other dates after 2 months. Someone here weeks ago suggested it was Hyde trying to sell as much tickets as possible, and had an agreement with GNR.

Anyway if they are indeed still in negotiations- who is negotiating for GNR? Beta? Fernando? Dizzy?

That would be a crap agreement, if that would extend that far so it eats into them announcing their other dates. And really, that would only extend to other UK dates. And not dates in other countries.
Also it's Live Nation selling their shows. So I think any negotation directly with the band is long done.

3 hours ago, ChristmasFnatic said:

Last day of January, so is it today? lol. Tomorrow, Feb 1 is the 2 month mark since Hyde Park was announced, so maybe.

Huh? You think they wait for the, for a lack of better term, "anniversary" of the Hyde Park announcement?

41 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

TS definitely were big in that timeframe, but not global and not stadium level big. 

It's beside the point though, a band that laid down tools 4/5yrs ago, did one rehearsal and sounded pretty incredible.

Like I said, GNR were able to build on it. TS wasn't. Though they did have their following around the world.
It's actually been 6 years and they just switched it back on.

13 minutes ago, Nintari said:

I think those of us debating whether or not GNR can make it post-80 are deluded. They clearly couldn't make it post-50, let alone 80. And by "make it", I mean get within earshot of their performances between 1987-1993. Axl hasn't had his full voice since the early 90's, and Slash mostly just stands still now, and his playing has become tired and bored sounding. Duff is still in the ballpark, but that's mostly because he's a gym-nut, and his younger stage presence wasn't really about running around anyway.

The last time I saw GNR looking and sounding like peak GNR was 1993. Since then, at least one component has been off, and/or a shell of its former self. So to be arguing about post-80 performances? lol You gotta be kidding me.

GNR is like the Beatles, Floyd, Nirvana and Zeppelin now. Legendary band, legendary records, legendary stories, shows and concert footage... but it's over. Nothing can take away all the aforementioned things, and nothing is preventing anyone of us from grouping together on forums to talk about one of our favorite bands (just look at all the Beatles forums out there for proof of that). But it's done. Everything that happens now, is just an imitation of something (far, far better) that came before it.

Apart from Axl's singing, they still bring it. And all of them do not just stand there. The presence, especially Axl's, is still there. And no one really needs for them to run around for 2 hours... they really did an excessive amount of running back in the day: https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cl3fmH6tjYj/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= it's almost a big comical, looking back. Also not sure who really expects them to do shows like in '93. That's ridiculous.

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

Gnr have a far wider mainstream crossover obviously, but I know what you mean about TS. And that performance from a few days ago was top class 

Well, there was a time TS had that too, they were big in '84. GNR managed to build on it and had that way longer.

1 minute ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

I think you don't know anything about gnr, otherwise you wouldn't call anything goes, omg, twat or IRS big hits

Didn't even read all that. Yeah. Most of those songs are not even hits in the actual sense, as far as charting goes and known to people who don't follow them. So really an apple and oranges comparison in regards to TS.

1 hour ago, Karice said:

But to be honest, Twisted Sister is only a two big  hit wonder band. They only have We're Not Going To Take It Anymore and I Wanna Rock as their only big hits. 

There is no comparison. Guns N'Roses has 21 big hits. 😀Twisted Sister only has two big hits. 😀

Shut the fuck up. You may only know 2 songs. Doesn't mean that they don't have more hit songs the audience is coming to hear. They headlined the biggest metal festivals around the world. You don't do tht with only 2 songs. They always delivered, there always was a party. Even with people claiming they don't like Twisted Sister. They are one of the best live bands around.

1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

Again, you do you. And I never said he was doing the seminars for free. 

Like Michael sings in Family thing "I don't care if it's wrong or right".  Enjoying that one too.

1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

To each their own, but I won't be listening to any of it. Brad is more than just "someone". The guy isn't out there just making a buck off of Michael like so many others do and / or attempt to do. Just my opinion. 

Yeah. I'm listening to it and I'm enjoying it. Especially Chicago. And yes, he is making money. He's not doing these seminars for free or cheap, is he?

3 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

So bummed about what happened. Some "fan" stole a laptop in order to leak this stuff

I think it's awesome. However wrong that may be. I think it's fucked up that you have to attend these seminars, which aren't cheap, so you can hear those songs and someone is profiting of Michael's work and fame.

20 minutes ago, WayTooManyOstriches said:

This was emotionally probably one of the hardest things for Axl to do.  He's obviously upset over having lost a friend.  From what he said in the eulogy he was also surprised that he was asked to speak.  There's likely pressure on a musician any time they're asked to perform, but when it's at a friend's funeral and their family and friends are there it's probably harder than performing in front of a whole stadium of strangers given the circumstances.

Yeah. Especially when it's him on his own on the piano with no one backing him up and every mistake in playing and singing is at the forefront.

11 hours ago, downzy said:

I still wouldn’t mind seeing other trilogies developed in the Star Wars universe that explores a less elitist approach to the force

Why elitist?? There are thousands of force users. Not just the Skywalkers. That much was clear. It's just the Skywalkers that brought the Jedi house down and tried to build it up again.

14 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

Back in a SW mood. Got to visit Galaxys Edge for the first time, last week. Had a lot of fun. Did everything you could in it 

Yeah. Visited that one too in California for the first time last december. It's awesome.

19 minutes ago, koldweather said:

Some live month to Month financially so need time to save. The tickets aren't exact cheap when you factor food/transport/hotels into it. 

Some need to make travel arrangements, others will need hotels which are much harder to come by the closer you get to the Time, etc.

Basically a Combo of money and logistic.

Well, if you can travel to concerts and stay in hotels, you're not exactly hurting for money, no? And when you live month to month and can't buy tix when they go on sale, you usually don't get what you want anyway as the right seats/sections are sold out right away (well, probably not in GNR case anymore). But with the announcement of that one festival it's stands to reason that further shows are pretty much a given, so people still had time since that announcement to save up, regardless of whether those shows have been announced or not.

1 hour ago, Lio said:

For me personally, it's about holiday plans. GNR seem to always tour in the summer months and I would assume most people have planned out their holidays by now.

Yeah. Of course, knowing early on is better. But I don't think it's essential to anounce a year in advance.

1 hour ago, koldweather said:

With the stones they don't tour that often, are evergreen and you never know when they will be stopping.

Guns probably were in the same bracket as Stones back in 16-17 with slash and duff return but I'm not sure they are there atm. Still clearly headliner worthy mind you, bit stones will sell stadiums out with little notice. I'm not 100% sure GnR can do that with that little notice. Arenas though, no problems.

Does it matter what notice?? It's not like you can pay for tickets in installments. Either you buy them or you don't.

12 minutes ago, ©GnrPersia said:

Do you see anxiety in these photos:

 

Yeah. I have to LOL at how some fans make it a given fact that he suffers under severe anxiety.

15 hours ago, Politania said:

Im wondering if it isn't too late to organize and announce concerts? is it January already?

Why would it be? The Rolling Stones announced their shows about 2 1/2 months in advance.

6 minutes ago, vloors said:

Prince had a full tour with just him and a piano playing all his striped back hits. 

Thing is with Axls vocals it will leave him more vulnerable out there without the band. He would have to work on his voice and rearrange the way he sings.

 

Geez. It was a one time thing. Not a future endeavor.