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AFD: 12 Lies: 7 UYI: 29 TSI: 13 End of Days: 1 Live Era: 1 GH: 1 CD: 14 AFDem: 4 (The Seeker, Another Brick in the Wall, Objectify, Motivation)* AFD Deluxe: 7 (SOYL, Rosie, Heartbreak Hotel, Jumpin Jack Flash, The Plague, New Work Tune, Aint Goin Down instrumental) HS EP: 2 UYI1 Deluxe: 2 (Always on the Run and Wild Horses) UYI2 Deluxe: 5 (Drum Solo, Slash Solo, Speak Softly, Sail Away Sweet Sister, Train Kept a-Rollin’) UYI Deluxe “teases”: 4 (Voodoo Child, Hotel California, Only Women Bleed, I Was Only Joking) *There was a limited-release CD version of the AFDem bluray, so it technically counts, despite not being on streaming services. Total GnR songs on streaming services counting teases: 102 Total GnR songs on streaming services NOT counting teases: 98 Total GnR songs counting both teases and the AFDem CD: 106 Total GnR songs counting the AFDem CD but NOT teases: 102 And I guess the Tokyo 1992 video album also had It Tastes Good Don’t It as a tease, but I’m leaving that one out cause Tokyo 1992 was only ever released as a video. Same goes for broadcasts like Ritz 1988.

Yeah but that doesn’t mean he recorded vocals for it, necessarily. He never recorded the old silkworms chorus in the studio, as far as we know, yet they played it live.

They should make a sequel to Get In The Ring and mention Nuno Bettencourt during the diss part. ”What, Nuno, you jealous cause Richard gets more pussy than you? Fuck you! Suck Richard’s fucking dick!”

It was three songs. Tooth Puller, Machine Gun (not sure if it’s a cover of the Hendrix song but probably), and Down By the Ocean. Dizzy mentioned Tooth Puller in an interview some years later and said it was really stupid. It was just about going to the dentist and the chorus was just “gotta get my tooth pulled, gotta get my tooth pulled.” Axl said in 2008 that they were still working on Down By the Ocean, but a lot of people suspect that Izzy turned it into his solo song Box.

Dizzy said on the band’s old website in 2006 that Silkworms and Riad wouldn’t be on the album anymore. I clearly remember that. Idk where the Catcher thing comes from. Maybe cause it wasn’t part of the MSL or Skwerl leaks? Axl told rolling stone mag in 2006 that they were working on 32 songs and that 26 of them were almost done, but only 13 would be on the final album: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/axl-rose-breaks-his-silence-on-chinese-democracy-111138/ My guess is that the 13 in question are the ones we got except one other song in place of TIL and Shackler’s (cause those didn’t have updated lyrics yet). Bumble confirmed that Atlas was gonna be on the album and got scratched at the last minute, so it’s probably that one.

Axl ran out of creative juice. Happens to most artists as they age. The difference is that most of them continue to churn out stuff that they know is mediocre just to keep their business going. I doubt he ever did anything else with Quick Song. As far as Berlin goes, he probably did have lyrics, but never got around to recording them (like the Silkworms chorus).

It’s what some of us call 10%er (since it took forever to find out what the actual title of that song was). It was a rumored (later proven fake) title from awhile back.

It’s a shame cause he left in 2008 to rejoin NIN again, only for NIN to then break up in 2009, before GnR even started touring again. It all worked out for the best though, since NIN reunited in 2013.

Really cool to see Robin active, and he still looks great!

Since Oklahoma is now called Berlin, I always imaged Axl singing “break down the wall” right as the heavy part kicks in, but like he holds “wwwwwaaaaallllll” for a really long time. For Elvis/Leave Me Alone/Soul Monster I always pictured Ozzy signing it (since Axl compared it to Black Sabbath). I can hear him in my head singing lyrics like “nothing can free the monster in my soul,” followed by “so leave me alone” (reference to the working title). How are you gonna come up with the melodies, btw? Melody is way harder than lyrics.

The list is described as Axl Enemies/ Slash Sympathizers. I also just recalled how back in 2009, Brain was the first to let us all know about the remix album’s existence. He said “I think Axl wants to remix the album, with some of the songs we didn’t release.” That adds further evidence to the idea that, at least at one point, cd2 and the remix album were one and the same.

Something else I just remembered is that in 2006 Axl said that twenty-six songs were “nearly done.” We got fourteen in 2008, so the remaining twelve were probably the nine I listed above plus Nothing, Thyme, and Going Down. Maybe also OMG and one other song like Light My Fire or KOHD Acoustic or 10%er. Gotta account for some wiggle room there, since the final lyrics for Shackler’s and TIL were done super last minute, it seems. That said, the point still stands that cd2 was never really as big as we thought. I know Baz claims that Axl played him four albums in 2007, but Axl probably just played him updated versions of Rough Mixes 1-4 or something. Tommy did say that ChiDem was originally meant to be much shorter. Maybe the plan at one time was to release three or four small albums, and then that became two long albums, and then only one. When Tommy later said that there were twenty-two songs left over from ChiDem, he was probably also talking about instrumentals. I know he said Axl worked on vocals every year, but that could mean anything. Axl coulda just patched one or two lines per year, for all we know.

Fair enough. But assuming it’s real, if we eliminate all the remixes and covers and little instrumental interludes like Thyme and pointless “sketch” songs like Nothing and songs that Axl doesn’t even sing like Going Down, we’re left with this: Cuban Skies (assuming it has vocals), The General, Atlas Shrugged, Soul Monster, Absurd, Tonto (assuming it has vocals), Monstrosity (assuming it has vocals), Hard Skool, Perhaps. Nine songs, and now we’re getting six. The current state of things is starting to make sense to me. I bet that after Perhaps and The General, the last pair of ChiDem songs will be Atlas and Soul Monster. And if I had to guess, State of Grace never got finished and always remained a “sketch,” and Axl probably never got around to doing vocals for Berlin or Zodiac (even if he had lyrics).

For some reason I thought it was even later (like 1997 or 1998).

Oh yeah. Forgot about Blues Ball! Lol Guess it’s true what they say; history repeats!

Some kinda “Appetite for Destruction 2” coming out of nowhere would be quite something, that’s for sure.

True, but at least this time Axl doesn’t seem to be blocking any of these side projects (like how he blocked the Snakepit tour in 1996).

I was thinking again about Mayhue’s claim that the (mythical) next album would be AFD leftovers and, while I still think he misspoke, I’m actually starting to prefer the idea of them working on songs like Aint Goin’ Down, Just Another Sunday, etc. over more ChiDem era stuff. I know that sounds crazy, but I guess I’m just getting nostalgic for that “sound.” That said, I’ll take anything, at the end of the day. Just exercising the fun little what-if scenario in my head, is all. Besides, I think when Duff said Axl has “zillions of songs,” he was talking about all the different eras, not just the ChiDem era. If we’re talking strictly AFD times, what do they have to work with? Aint Goin Down, Just Another Sunday, Crash Diet (they would have to buy the rights back), Too Much Too Soon (kinda corny but can still work), Bring It Back Home (kinda morphed into Slither but can still work)… I can’t really see them doing anything with Sentimental Movie. And songs like Cornshucker and It Tastes Good are obviously out of the question. We also don’t know if Axl ever wrote lyrics to Nightcrawler (despite it morphing into Speed Parade). Canter did say that Axl wanted to use a few Snakepit songs as recently as 2001, though, so make of that what you will. Ive never heard those Hollywood Rose songs like Rock N Roll Rose, Rock N Roll Survivor, Bloodshot Eyes, etc. So I can’t comment on those.

No it won’t.

Overall, I’m happy. As much as I’d like more new music, if I can’t have that, then I’ll gladly take all these deep cuts that they’ve been bringing back.

It’s So Easy, My Michelle, and Anything Goes are all just ok.

Then it’s legit. So basically CD2 was Cuban Skies, The General, Atlas, Soul Monster, Absurd, Thyme, Going Down, Tonto, Monstrosity (whatever the fuck that is), Nothing, Hard Skool, Perhaps, that acoustic version of KOHD, and Light My Fire. And the remix album was Blood in the Water, Better Gone, TIL with rasp, Bumble’s OMG, some sorta remix of the title track that we’ve never heard, and then all the other remixes that leaked (If the World, Shackler’s, Sorry). This is what Axl was talking about at that Golden Gods interview in 2014. Maybe some things are mixed up. Like maybe KOHD acoustic was supposed to be on the remix album, for instance. But for the most part, this has to be what they were planning. It’s a shame they didn’t just drop all six songs they worked on in 2021 all at once. Then maybe they coulda moved on to some of these other ones and done a second EP. Oh well. At least we’re getting stuff. Slowly, but we’re getting it.

Does anyone remember when that screenshot started floating around the internet? Was it before 2019? If so, that proves it’s legit, cause we didn’t know about Perhaps and Nothing yet, as far as I remember.

What’s the evidence?

If this is real, then I totally understand why cd2 never came out, and why we’re only getting six songs now, one at a time. It’s basically just a studio EP mixed with a remix EP. I still woulda dug it, mind you, but I can see why the label wouldn’t. idk about you guys, but these days, I just think of stuff like VR, Snakepit, SMKC, etc as “GnR by extension. For me, that new “blues” album slash is doing is “the new GnR album.” i know Axl is not on any of that stuff, but at this point, it’s pretty clear that he doesn’t care anymore about having a big catalog to his name or not. It is what it is. If you’re one of those “Axl or nothing” people, I’d recommend opening yourself up to AI-generated music and make your own playlists. It’s the best you’re gonna get, at this point…