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It would help Mötley Crüe fill stadiums, but Guns N' Roses can do it on their own, especially after a break. Mötley Crüe needs Guns N' Roses more than GN'R needs Mötley. Mötley Crüe isn't a stadium band, never has been, never will be. It needed Def Leppard to justify the move to stadiums, and from what I've seen, they're only booking things like county fairs now they've gone it alone

It was brain dead and plugged into a life support machine... Well sure, it isn't generally speaking, but GN'R changed so much that the band might as well have been considered dead. As I said, many thought it was – people saw Slash's return as the band returning even though it never fully went away. It went from being the biggest band on the planet with multiple recognisable members to a laughing stock* overnight – it was the same in name only. * not my view, just the general consensus from the wider public. I liked the band that played from 2001-2014, but it was hardly the same as the thing that preceded it Nice job cutting out the rest of my post that explained what I meant by that 😂 Instead of cherry picking lines to fit your point, look at the answer as a whole. I wouldn't call losing all of your members, being ridiculed into hiding, and struggling to get one album out "survival". It was a fresh start, an entirely new, different thing that coincidentally had the same name

Are people forgetting that it was Slash and Duff who asked what Chinese Democracy songs Axl wanted to do, and Axl who suggested they do Slither? It's pretty obvious that there's a lot more collaboration between the three these days. Axl wouldn't have dictated anything, he would've brought the songs to the table and if/how they proceded would've been a conscious collaborative effort

Did it though? I mean, sure, an entity called 'Guns N' Roses' existed, but it was a laughing stock to most of the world, it fell out of the mainstream overnight, nobody knew who was in the band besides Axl, they played much smaller venues, and struggled to release one album. Album point aside, the second Slash returned, they were playing stadiums, headlining festivals (including probably the three biggest ones on the planet), and most people (not counting the diehard fans) spoke about how the band was "back" or "back together" even though it never went away or broke up. To say the band survived Slash's departure is just a technicality. Slash leaving was catastrophic for the band then, and it ceased to be 'Guns N' Roses' at that point. And since it's no longer a mainstream act that's regularly working on/regularly releasing music, it would be catastrophic if it were to happen again. The band would end. --- In an entirely unreleated point (to save me double posting), why do some people here seem surprised that the b(r)and is more of a business than an actual band these days? 😂 Name a big band that isn't run that way. They're huge, serious things, they aren't rehearsing in garages and playing bars in return for a few beers anymore 😂

Nightrain Coma There Was A Time Absurd or Perhaps One from each lineup/era to give a well-rounded picture of the band

Nobody once ever said that, except you...

I thought crackpot theories among the GN'R fanbase were reserved for the main band 😂 I guess not...

I'm not. But something that's entirely new absolutely cannot be "uninspired" if a cover is "inspired" 🤷‍♂️

I find it funny when people say SMKC is uninspired and then say his best work is a COVER. Not slamming the cover, I love it, but you can't say him doing someone else's song is more inspired than something wholly original. Just say you don't like it, that's okay

This undoes your entire argument. If he cared what people thought or were saying, he wouldn't be "churning out the same WOF clone", as you put it. He obviously does what he wants to do and isn't swayed by the fanbase – if he was Myles would be long gone. SMKC (and his other solo venture) is his artistic vehicle, it's not there for him to make money or gain attention. He has GN'R for that. He absolutely isn't checking views or streaming numbers. Nobody of Slash's stature will really (they have management and staff for that), but Slash especially won't be. For the record, I don't agree. I like SMKC, Myles, and each of the albums (4's production aside)

The drum sound really ruins it for me sadly

I don't think they sound better really. Different, sure, but I wouldn't go as far as to say they're a major improvement

Looking forward to experiencing them live in a couple of weeks! I haven't listened to it in a while so I need to revisit it, but I do remember the drums and bass having that 'punch you in the face' quality that 4 and Starcatcher are severly lacking. Funnily enough, California Breed were one of the openers when I saw SMKC in 2014, my first-ever concert. Shame they didn't last.

I didn't realise he did Boneshaker and California Breed. They're not as bad as 4 and Starcatcher imo. Well, sound-wise at least, the songs themselves aren't as strong. My feeling around 4 and Starcatcher is that they just sound a little 'thin', if that makes sense? Hearing the GVF songs live last year just went to show that those songs can and should have much more of a punch.

Same problem with Greta Van Fleet's latest record. Lots of good songs on there, the production just leaves them sounding somewhat underwhelming

Except he's still playing with SMKC, touring to promote that very album, and has plans for another. He's hardly moved onto something different, he's just doing something else in addition to SMKC

Fall To Pieces in Axl's lower register would sound great, I reckon. He'd no doubt use his clean voice if GN'R ever did that song, but we can dream, right?

Excluding solo spots (but not excluding The Godfather theme), Slither is currently GN'R's 33rd most-played song – beating the likes of Yesterdays, Shadow of Your Love, Reckless Life, Pretty Tied Up, and So Fine. Imagine thinking that 10 years ago...

I saw that and fell for it... as usual. No news, just the world's most entitled fanbase arguing. Again.

Yes, it's a screenshot from the music video

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I wonder if it's a label issue? That was the case last time, his label wouldn't let him perform on the record. Same sort of thing happened on the Classless Act album, too – Justin Hawkins was able to do a guitar solo, but wasn't allowed to sing on the song he appeared on. Damn, that's a horrible thought. I remember Apocalyptic Love like it was yesterday, but I'm about to turn 30. Horrible to see it written on like that 😂

Easy now 😂

It's been "back" for nearly a decade. We can stop talking like it's new or a novelty. The current lineup is the longest-serving one in the band's history

I stopped reading at "Jane Lynch as Duff McKagan?"