Gunzen Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 this guy is full of shit, he was on one of the boards a couple of weeks ago saying that he was a customer from meijers and talked with the guy who worked there, who said it was coming out on so and so date (i think it's changed since last time) and that he reserved one of the 13 copies they were getting. several people from the board tried to call this particular meijers and couldn't confirm the rumor attention whore.For the record, two people called the store while I was working (im the only who works there that is even remotly interested in this) I spoke with one in person and told him what I knew, the other left a message with my manager Bruce requesting information and when I tried to call him back I left a message on his answering machine but never received a call back.It's really hard for me to beleive that you know about these old posts i'm referring to, yet you're new to the boards. I think you're the same guy. Nice work detective, could you please go to Afghanastan, we need you there for a few weeks. Nice one!give us the contact info for the vendor, that's the only way you can convince anyone.Feel free to contact the Meijer in your area...http://www.meijer.com/locations/index.aspunfortunately, there are none in my area. it's a small chain in the middle of nowhere, which makes this story even more difficult to beleive. nationwide big boxes have waaaay more employees and thus a much greater chance of having one of them come onto the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kobbeltvedt Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 he's 45 and used to be a pastor at his church, not exactly the GNR fanbase... so u say...Who knoews. The man him self was in a choir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raspus Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 its lookin like late november Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagnoris Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Wow your store is getting 12 copies? The store in my town is only going to get 3 1/2. Exactly how stupid does this guy make us all out to be. The new CD will show up on this date with no promo at all and the store will get 12 copies?Though a source told Rolling Stone that the album is due November 21st, Mercuriadis declined to confirm this. “I don’t know that we will announce a release date,” he says. “You just might walk into your record shop one Tuesday and find it there.” Sorry son, he's winning this one.Wow i guess I missed the part in that RS article that said grocery stores will only get a handful of copies. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Wow your store is getting 12 copies? The store in my town is only going to get 3 1/2. Exactly how stupid does this guy make us all out to be. The new CD will show up on this date with no promo at all and the store will get 12 copies?Though a source told Rolling Stone that the album is due November 21st, Mercuriadis declined to confirm this. “I don’t know that we will announce a release date,” he says. “You just might walk into your record shop one Tuesday and find it there.” Sorry son, he's winning this one.Wow i guess I missed the part in that RS article that said grocery stores will only get a handful of copies. My bad. It's not really that hard to believe, if CDs aren't their main market then they're obviously not going to buy in more than a few copies. I was in a store devoted to music today, MusicZone and they only had about 5 copies of AFD..... it's really not that difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ps06 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 this guy is full of shit, he was on one of the boards a couple of weeks ago saying that he was a customer from meijers and talked with the guy who worked there, who said it was coming out on so and so date (i think it's changed since last time) and that he reserved one of the 13 copies they were getting. several people from the board tried to call this particular meijers and couldn't confirm the rumor attention whore.For the record, two people called the store while I was working (im the only who works there that is even remotly interested in this) I spoke with one in person and told him what I knew, the other left a message with my manager Bruce requesting information and when I tried to call him back I left a message on his answering machine but never received a call back.It's really hard for me to beleive that you know about these old posts i'm referring to, yet you're new to the boards. I think you're the same guy. give us the contact info for the vendor, that's the only way you can convince anyone.Feel free to contact the Meijer in your area...http://www.meijer.com/locations/index.aspunfortunately, there are none in my area. it's a small chain in the middle of nowhere, which makes this story even more difficult to beleive. nationwide big boxes have waaaay more employees and thus a much greater chance of having one of them come onto the boards.actually, i used to live in ohio and must say your description of meijer as a "small chain" is inaccurate. regional chain: yes, small chain: no. meijer is a super-retail store similar to target or wal-mart and is extremely successful in the midwest. that being said, i see no reason to argue about the validity of what meijeremployee said. there's really no way to prove it either way. i for one will just continue hoping that CD is out by the end of the month...any news that makes this seem like a better possibility is good news in my book. if the 28th comes and still no CD, then we can criticize meijeremployee all we want, but until then....i fail to see the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meijersemployee Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 this guy is full of shit, he was on one of the boards a couple of weeks ago saying that he was a customer from meijers and talked with the guy who worked there, who said it was coming out on so and so date (i think it's changed since last time) and that he reserved one of the 13 copies they were getting. several people from the board tried to call this particular meijers and couldn't confirm the rumor attention whore.For the record, two people called the store while I was working (im the only who works there that is even remotly interested in this) I spoke with one in person and told him what I knew, the other left a message with my manager Bruce requesting information and when I tried to call him back I left a message on his answering machine but never received a call back.It's really hard for me to beleive that you know about these old posts i'm referring to, yet you're new to the boards. I think you're the same guy. give us the contact info for the vendor, that's the only way you can convince anyone.Feel free to contact the Meijer in your area...http://www.meijer.com/locations/index.aspunfortunately, there are none in my area. it's a small chain in the middle of nowhere, which makes this story even more difficult to beleive. nationwide big boxes have waaaay more employees and thus a much greater chance of having one of them come onto the boards.actually, i used to live in ohio and must say your description of meijer as a "small chain" is inaccurate. regional chain: yes, small chain: no. meijer is a super-retail store similar to target or wal-mart and is extremely successful in the midwest. that being said, i see no reason to argue about the validity of what meijeremployee said. there's really no way to prove it either way. i for one will just continue hoping that CD is out by the end of the month...any news that makes this seem like a better possibility is good news in my book. if the 28th comes and still no CD, then we can criticize meijeremployee all we want, but until then....i fail to see the pointThank god someone here has a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.drummin Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Same release date as that Virgin Megastores thing, sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 no promotion?thats very gayand if the 12 copies is true maybe they want a big rush on so little cds, that way media will report the demand for it,creating promotion. although it would be downloaded like pornonly explanation i can think of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRrocks3 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) What part of Ohio, anywhere near the Cincinnati area? Edited November 11, 2006 by GNRrocks3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfan001 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 hahahaha i called the store and they said there was no way to find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teknophyle83 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Well I believe him.Thanks for the info, dude. Just keep in mind, info about CD seems to change pretty often, so even if the thing doesn't get dropped on the 28th, the information this guy supposedly has could have been absolutely true at the time he got it.And yes, Meijer is a big store, and, like Wal-Mart or Target, CDs aren't exactly their focus...it doesn't surprise me that they might only get 8-12 copies.You guys keep shitting on people who come here to give us what they know, and at some point one of them is going to turn out to be absolutely correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Well I believe him.Thanks for the info, dude. Just keep in mind, info about CD seems to change pretty often, so even if the thing doesn't get dropped on the 28th, the information this guy supposedly has could have been absolutely true at the time he got it.And yes, Meijer is a big store, and, like Wal-Mart or Target, CDs aren't exactly their focus...it doesn't surprise me that they might only get 8-12 copies.You guys keep shitting on people who come here to give us what they know, and at some point one of them is going to turn out to be absolutely correct.Exactly. It's really quite something that people come here to give us what they hear in hopes that it may interest us and all people do is shit on them and/or call them a noob. I'm sure 16 threads about negativity are just much more pleasing to this forum these days.Thanks for the information. Keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 There is as much chance of this being true as anything else that we have heard. I think that they are making a HUGE mistake if the CD is not in stores on Black Friday (day after Thanksgiving for the non-americans) but oh well. You guys think that everyone who comes on here is coming on to fuck with us, maybe the dude is just a big fan. Either way, we will know soon, because there is no way that the CDs would not arrive the Friday before. Gn'R do not set the rules for that kind of stuff. Trust me if the realese date is the 21st the album will be LEAKED on the Friday before. If it is the 28th, it will be leaked the Friday before that. There is not a damn thing Merck can do about that. If you think a small town record store employee is worried about the big Merck/Gn'R machine,think again. They will put that shit online with the quickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkboy Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I'm skeptical of all of these November release rumors simply because we've all been set up and disappointed so many times. However, I just called the Virgin Records MegaStore in Denver, CO just to see what type of response I'd get. Let me also say Denver does not support new Guns at all (which sucks). All stations are Clear Channel-owned and barely recognize that Guns exist. So I asked the gal if she had a release date for Guns N Roses new album. You could tell by her reaction that she knew nothing about GNR. She put me on hold and came back with I quote "probably Nov 21".I was suprised to get this from them. There's no buzz around here at all on GNR, so I don't think you have record store workers repeating rumors like we've seen over the past month. I think there is a legitimate possibility that Virgin Records knows the release date and is ear-marking this date for its employees but not outright confirming it. I'm still not completely sold that there is any kind of plan, but Nov 21 is looking more and more realistic. One point though, remember Jarmo saying "wrong Tuesday" about Rollingstone's Nov 21 report? Fuck - haven't we all waited long enough already. This is getting painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetest_Child Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 rollingtone - nov 21+ TONS of just random music stores / websites stating 21 or 28th ... + merck saying "who knows, you might just walk in to the music store and it will be on the shelf" = VERYYY probable late NOV release date... just alot of signs, more than ever now, saying november, november, i know nothing is in stone with GNR but im thinking it will be this Month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat89 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 well i believe you and i think it will come out on the 28th. 17 days to go if this is true, thanks for posting the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseattle Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 All I know is...That I don't know. And all I know is that I don't know nothing.Haha, I'm hyped out so much over this, my bandmates and friends are killing me. I think I've even talked it to death about this album and it's not even out yet.And can anyone point me in the right direction to hear even the leak of Better, besides YouTube. I swear if I have to fast forward over the radio intro again, I'll go nuts. I really can't believe they don't release ATLEAST the single on iTunes. God, I would eat that up...it's such a good song.Same with TWAT...I've listened to the leak of that since June maybe 100 to 200 times. Well, let's hope for the 21st, I still am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Axl Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hi there! Im new here so probably dont have any credibility, but I work at a meijers store in Ohio and was surprised to see the other day that Chinese Democracy was on our list of new release cds for the month of November. I was skeptical, but got in contact with the vendor that distributes and orders for our store and she confirmed that the album would be released by the end of the month probably the Tuesday after Thanksgiving (November 28). She also mentioned that there is no promotions going on with the album, which means the record company is not sending promotional posters or displays to help sell the album, which is strange for an artist of GNR's caliber. So there you go, take it or leave it but this is confirmed information from an employee who deals with New Release records every week and from the vendor to our store. I can also add that our particular store will only be receiving 12 copies of the album at release.interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meijersemployee Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Well I really appreciate those of you who grew a backbone enough to stand up and say 'hey, maybe this guy is just trying to pass on what he knows.' I am a fan of GNR and have been pumped up for this album since I heard the leak of 'Catcher in the Rye' which is just a brilliant song. Ive always been very passionate about music and rock and roll so this release is a long awaited one. I really wish I could provide you with some sort of concrete evidence but sadly I really cant. I told you what I know, and I promise you that if I find out anything more I will present it to you promptly.Something to ponder is this, big record stores such as virgin and such are going to have a lot more security steps in place to ensure that release dates and such dont get leaked to the general public before the record companies give the go-ahead. On the other hand, the majority of people working at a store like meijers or wal-mart dont know enough or care enough about something like this to even know if information was right in front of them. So whoever mentioned calling their local meijers store earlier and they 'didnt have a way to look it up' is a complete fabrication and someone deciding to be lazy. All media departments for meijer get a monthly newsletter on their employee websites at the beginning of each month outlining the months new releases which is where I got my information which I then backed up by talking with the store cd vendor.Once again, the day I see this album come in or if i find anything else at all out, I will present it to you. Thank you again to those who decided to think for themselves what they wanted to about this info and not try and belittle me or call me a liar for simply trying to do a favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomase Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Well I really appreciate those of you who grew a backbone enough to stand up and say 'hey, maybe this guy is just trying to pass on what he knows.' I am a fan of GNR and have been pumped up for this album since I heard the leak of 'Catcher in the Rye' which is just a brilliant song. Ive always been very passionate about music and rock and roll so this release is a long awaited one. I really wish I could provide you with some sort of concrete evidence but sadly I really cant. I told you what I know, and I promise you that if I find out anything more I will present it to you promptly.Something to ponder is this, big record stores such as virgin and such are going to have a lot more security steps in place to ensure that release dates and such dont get leaked to the general public before the record companies give the go-ahead. On the other hand, the majority of people working at a store like meijers or wal-mart dont know enough or care enough about something like this to even know if information was right in front of them. So whoever mentioned calling their local meijers store earlier and they 'didnt have a way to look it up' is a complete fabrication and someone deciding to be lazy. All media departments for meijer get a monthly newsletter on their employee websites at the beginning of each month outlining the months new releases which is where I got my information which I then backed up by talking with the store cd vendor.Once again, the day I see this album come in or if i find anything else at all out, I will present it to you. Thank you again to those who decided to think for themselves what they wanted to about this info and not try and belittle me or call me a liar for simply trying to do a favor.i beleave 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarmyBritJo Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I've been asking in local record shops too but no one seems to know anything which is a bit suss as it's supposed to be with them in the next few weeks! The young girl in woolies was very helpful but only just knew who Guns n Roses were, when she asked how long I'd been waiting for a release of this album she chuckled at my respnse of "oh years actually!" Anyway most places took my phone number and said they'd call if there was any news.Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomase Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 somebody on htgth called best buy and they said it nov 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedking Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) I spoke with a friend who does ordering for a major music retailer. Below is the transcript of our phone call conducted today (11/15/06) at 2:20pm Central Time.ME: Hi, hear anything on Chinese Democracy?RET: Nothing. It's not even in the system.ME: So is it at all possible that CD would be in your store next Tuesday (21st)?RET: No. It's impossible since I need to have info in the computer to actually order it and there is nothing.ME: What about the rest of this year?RET: The last reasonable date would be November 28th...after that, it kind of dries up.ME: Are you suggesting that it won't be out this year?RET: Anything's possible, but at this point, with nothing in the system showing any release date, the window is closing fast.He also indicated that he orders new releases the Friday before the Tuesday release. So, for example, in order to have CD in stores by next Tuesday (21st) he would have to have something in his computer by tomorrow morning at the very latest.I believe that if CD were coming out this year, the PR machine would have been ramped up a few weeks ago. The most telling thing is that AXL has made no reference to it's release at any of the concerts this fall.We may be waiting a bit longer than we thought... Edited November 15, 2006 by speedking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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