Kickingthehabit Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I remember sneaking into The Roxy in 1986, hoping to weasle my way into the celebrity bar above the club. I had this naive expectation of finding someone like Nikki Sixx with a group of women. Adolescent rock n' roll fantasies, what can I say? I can't remember if it was still owned by Elmer Valentine, but I have fond memories of throwing beer bottles at his fucked up gold Cadillac when my friends and I couldn't find a way to get into the theater to see a gig. He was a cool guy, notwithstanding his wannabe bouncers, who collectively looked like Keith Richards on testosterone..That was the first time I saw Guns N' Roses live. To know they went from being an unknown band of reckless kids to self-serving, multi-millionaire musicians who just piss on each other to stroke their egos is beyond depressing. They are the musical equivalent of Leonardo DaVinci painting the Mona Lisa and then setting it on fire..I'm just glad I was around when it actually meant something..-Kickingthehabit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netrix Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thanks axl for this. Not only for telling your side of the story but by choosing the medium to do it in. Thanks for believing in your fans who believe in you the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcalldp Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) Grass-roots communication, priceless. As for the comments regarding 'what to believe'....just look at what we do know, plug logic into the equation and then decide for yourself what to believe. Personally, what Axl's saying makes sense (Logically) to me. To each his own of course. Regardless, it's like a personal interview and any fan should enjoy these insights immensely.I hope Axl is getting some good energy reflected back at him from this process so it can be something he enjoys as well.Now damnit Axl, Gilmour or Water?? Enjoy it guys. Edited December 15, 2008 by mcalldp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syk Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 i still cant believe it, the best thng ive read ever...better than the harry potters lol. axl obviosly spent a lot of time to write all of that, much respect, but i bet it must feel good to get a lot of it off his chestIt was good for him and the fans. We all needed it. Im not sure who needed it more. I just hope people can understand Axl better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undercovergunner Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Way to go axl Im sure all us peeps greatly appreciate your talking with us please if you must spill some more juicy tidbits do it here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RonMexico82 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Cheers axl, great read.... hope you can tell us more about the new songs.+1 - Also what film scores he likes. He mentioned he likes listening to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 i hope we can leave the questions about the old band behind now. We've got a cool opportunity here to ask Axl about the new material. I'd like to know about this Zodiac song and what Axl thinks of the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The General Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 awesome... well, thank you axl for taking the time to answer all the questions.i have another one: how long did you sit on this "homework" ?! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31illusions Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thanks Axl - It took you soooo long to do this for us. But we appreciate it so much!Please keep in touch with us like this more often!-31illusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deniz Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 And i don't give a damn about legally who ownes the name. I mean how 'rock n' roll' is that? How "rock n' roll" is it to take someone, who is completely innocent, to court based on the errors of someone else? When it comes to Axl, it's always someone elses fault. And if Slash was such a liar, why didn't Axl sue him for the lies in his book? He could've cleaned Slash out and once in for all be victorious in this stupid war where nobody really wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman1987 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Sal Bug Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) I honestly don't give a shit if they're ever friends again. Why should I? Yeah, I guess in a hippy, let's all love each other and hold hands sort of way, yes it would be nice if they were friends, and everyone else in the world were friends, too. But if they're not making music together, then I don't care. I guess it would be nice if they could stop bitching about each other, then realizing they took it too far, and going back to kissing their ass to try and correct it. And I believe that for anybody, an abuse of litigation is disgusting. I know it would be aggravating for me, so hopefully they (it sounds mostly like Slash's crap) can quit doing that. But be friends? Who cares?Well said man, I'm glad somebody said it, as I was begining to feel like the odd one out. If there's one thing I've found somewhat puzzling in my years of reading other Guns N' Roses fans opinions on MyGNR cd.com Evo and other forums, it's why they believe Axl and Slash should never be seperated , and live-on conjoined hand-in-hand for all eternity. First and foremost, it was evident from an early stage they wouldn't last long: We're lucky to have as much as the material and shows we've got. And it's true; they were perhaps the best Rock N' Roll combo, EVER. Not many rock-stars came close to their legend like status.But they're both certainly capable of making awesome music without one-another, we have evidance of that. Being friends again? Noone wouldn't like that, but it sounds like Gn'R-fan-fantasy. What would you guys get out of it?! ..it's even a little creepy if you ask me..The Music, does that ring any bells?? I just feel a little sorry for everyone involved. It seems like they can never escape the controversy and interest in the Old band break-up.They're only human. We fall out. Things end. Edited December 15, 2008 by Lone Sal Bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk1 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Nice to hear Axl's side. Very well written and nice to see a fellow Indiana native write with some intelligence and clarity! :xmasssanta: Regardless of whether you believe him or not, it had to be a horrible time for him the last 15 years or so. Makes me wonder what Izzy feels like being the only guy who really is 'in the middle'? Then again, Izzy seems so laid back he probably doesn't care...I also wonder if there will come a day when Axl and the original crew can at least be civil. Hopefully, by this point, everybody has somewhat evolved. Duff appears to be healthy and happy with his family life and Slash hopefully is in a similar position. I'd like to know what Axl thinks of all the original members praising him in the media lately? I love Slash's work, but see that as an attempt to be the good guy and hope for reconciliation. And, that's fine; somebody has to make the first move. Duff comes across as more authentic and never seemed as bitter as Slash once did. But, if what Axl is saying is true (and I wasn't there nor can I prove it) then I'd probably be pretty hesitant to even attempt to resolve any issues. What we all want to see as fans isn't always in the best interest of the actual people involved...Regardless, I'm glad Axl is in a better place emotionally and thank him for chatting with his fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Dude that was amazing!!! Axl sure knows how to write!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewpanese99 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Did anyone else get the impression that Axl no longer likes TIL/didn't want it on the album. I found it odd that he said Robin and Tommy sort of pressured him into working on it.Not at all. I think (and this is just my opinion, per-se) that it was a difficult song for him to work on, and as such he was reluctant to include it on the album. I don't think it was because he didn't like it.Totally agree. I think he was letting us know how supportive these guys are compared to previous members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMr.Brownstone(x) Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 No offense, but Axl sounds bitter as fuck. Especially about Slash. We're supposed to believe that everything that has happened is someone else's fault and EVERYTHING we've been told about him are all lies. I think the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.People love sayin' that middle trip. Easy to say but not so easy to prove. Unfortunately it's not in the middle and I can back up every last line in my bit or I wouldn't be here.You love his work and whatever else. More power to you! And no, I'm not bitter at least in the sense of how you used it conveys. Felt good gettin' some of that off my chest and as I said that's just the tip. If that's your honest impression it's definitely not rose colored lenses you're wearing. And I looked up the definition of bitter once in a pocket dictionary and got "having anger at something unjust or evil". I'm not angry but when I am with this particular someone who I thought was once my friend... the definition fits.and that's the reason why you are my idol and never let me down. I don't care if you guys don't get along anymore or have some issues or whatsoever. I will always admire you (both) for what you have done musically and professionally. The personal things you might have are non of my business and I have no right to talk 'bout them. I won't say I don't care what you do or how you act 'cause I do. ...When you came to my country (on tour) you gave us bottles of water (for free) that was reserved for the band that really meant a lot to me. But that's how you change the world right? one Act of Random Kindness at a time... I hope you get what I'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The General Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 it seems like Guns n' Roses don't need their own homepage anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccoTides Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) Yowza, that was a great, if bittersweet, read - Thanks very much, Axl, for giving your side of the story.Taking the time to answer the myriad of questions (random as they can be sometimes) the fans have is just awesome, and very much appreciated. Viva GN'R! Edited December 15, 2008 by EccoTides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RonMexico82 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I wonder is there anything that Axl would like to ask us the fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlCorp Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 AMAZING!!! ROUND TWO!!!Love this "I was specifically told no lyrics, no melodies, no changes to anything and to sing what I was told or fuck off." - sounds like it would have been like a Motley Crue CD.Way to stand up for yourself...hope you don't get reamed in the media for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meesh Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thank you very much for giving us the fans, straight forward answers to questions we've had on our minds for years.I really appreciate you taking the time to answer our questions Cheers Axl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 TL;DR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenBud Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 WOW...nothing can be said about that post! Incredible. Thanks, Axl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDRM Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Wow.Thank you axl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganzo Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thank you Axl..nice read Btw:Axl! You are still newbie like me Happy holidays :xmassrudolph: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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