tange Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Looking through the citations of the music it seems that Finck and Bucket were only responsible (from the standpoint of crafting the songs). Shack, Better, Scraped, and Sorry. Great songs but after looking that over more closely it appears that Tobias, Pitman, Dizzy and Axl are the core writing group. So I guess if like me you like CD then you shouldn't be worried about whether the band can write songs without Robin or Bucket. The key song writers are all still in the band. Am i totally off here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheels180 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Looking through the citations of the music it seems that Finck and Bucket were only responsible (from the standpoint of crafting the songs). Shack, Better, Scraped, and Sorry. Great songs but after looking that over more closely it appears that Tobias, Pitman, Dizzy and Axl are the core writing group. So I guess if like me you like CD then you shouldn't be worried about whether the band can write songs without Robin or Bucket. The key song writers are all still in the band. Am i totally off here?what leads you to believe there ever going to write new music....? theyve got 2 cds ready to go according to BF, and they cant even get those out. I think everyone needs to get the writing of new music, outside of the previously completely CD unreleased work, out of their minds. because its just not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 'Better' is one of the best songs on the album. It ranks above alot of the other songs, IMO. All credit to Finck for that, trully epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Tobias seems to have a hand in the big guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 I think people are more bothered about bucket and finck writing and preforming raw and awesome guitar parts than emotional lyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tange Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 I think people are more bothered about bucket and finck writing and preforming raw and awesome guitar parts than emotional lyricsCrafting the songs includes guitar parts. I wasn't referring to lyrics in the first place. The arrangements of the songs were in large part written by other members as far as the writing credits. As for solos, i think thats probably the last thing necessary to make a great song.Looking through the citations of the music it seems that Finck and Bucket were only responsible (from the standpoint of crafting the songs). Shack, Better, Scraped, and Sorry. Great songs but after looking that over more closely it appears that Tobias, Pitman, Dizzy and Axl are the core writing group. So I guess if like me you like CD then you shouldn't be worried about whether the band can write songs without Robin or Bucket. The key song writers are all still in the band. Am i totally off here?what leads you to believe there ever going to write new music....? theyve got 2 cds ready to go according to BF, and they cant even get those out. I think everyone needs to get the writing of new music, outside of the previously completely CD unreleased work, out of their minds. because its just not happeningUnderstood but not m point. Many on here seem to think the band is lost without Bucket and/or Robin on board. The arranging of music on CD I indicates otherwise. But I do agree with you. There will be no "new" songs anytime soon, unless DJ gets the go ahead to craft a single.'Better' is one of the best songs on the album. It ranks above alot of the other songs, IMO. All credit to Finck for that, trully epic.agreed. Great song. Probably my second favorite off CD and probably the most consistent favorite if you just ask a random fan. Great song and great lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAC185 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 As for solos, i think thats probably the last thing necessary to make a great song.I agree for the most part. But given the cut and paste nature of the songs, individual parts in the right place can make a big difference. Half of CD songs you can not even tell where a song came from.I mean the root idea of TWAT isn't all that, but add Bucket and some Axl wails and you've really got something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tange Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 As for solos, i think thats probably the last thing necessary to make a great song.I agree for the most part. But given the cut and paste nature of the songs, individual parts in the right place can make a big difference. Half of CD songs you can not even tell where a song came from.I mean the root idea of TWAT isn't all that, but add Bucket and some Axl wails and you've really got something.Good point. those contributions from bucket are well received by me. I just mean to say that the core idea is not bucket or robin. the overall theme and ideas on the record are not a product of the guitar players. I thought that was an interesting point seeing as how many have said now that DJ and Ron are in the band the direction of the music would be very different if they went in the studio. I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Looking through the citations of the music it seems that Finck and Bucket were only responsible (from the standpoint of crafting the songs). Shack, Better, Scraped, and Sorry. Great songs but after looking that over more closely it appears that Tobias, Pitman, Dizzy and Axl are the core writing group. So I guess if like me you like CD then you shouldn't be worried about whether the band can write songs without Robin or Bucket. maybe so, but Pittman and Dizzy are not what gave CD its sound, that was down to a big contribution from Robin and Bucket more than anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl666 Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Some of the song credits in the booklet are off. The full list of writers ofeach song on CD is here:http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=GUNS%20N%20ROSES&search_in=a&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=25&start=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tange Posted March 5, 2011 Author Share Posted March 5, 2011 Looking through the citations of the music it seems that Finck and Bucket were only responsible (from the standpoint of crafting the songs). Shack, Better, Scraped, and Sorry. Great songs but after looking that over more closely it appears that Tobias, Pitman, Dizzy and Axl are the core writing group. So I guess if like me you like CD then you shouldn't be worried about whether the band can write songs without Robin or Bucket. maybe so, but Pittman and Dizzy are not what gave CD its sound, that was down to a big contribution from Robin and Bucket more than anyone.Not disagreeing but can you elaborate more. Axl even said he wrote guitar parts for There was a time. So the chords and rhythm guitars were certainly not Robin or Bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Some of the song credits in the booklet are off. The full list of writers ofeach song on CD is here:http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=GUNS%20N%20ROSES&search_in=a&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=25&start=1Thanks man, good find. It seems that even in the alt. booklet there's wrong stuff. Robin is credited in 7 tracks instead: http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?requesttimeout=300&mode=results&searchstr=1723057&search_in=c&search_type=exact&search_det=t,s,w,p,b,v&results_pp=25&start=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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