The Real McCoy Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 my feeling is they are better in 2009-11, but subjective really.This is the Day is up on amazon for download, seems like it will be the single on National Treasures. I doubt it's ready for dl but maybe UK radio is starting to play it.Looking forward to it...will definitely be picking up National Treasures in the very near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I think it's out 31 Oct. it's just a run through the hits, have u hear the Masses Against the Classes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 according to www.manicstreetpreachers.com This Is The Day is available for download from iTunes now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I think it's out 31 Oct. it's just a run through the hits, have u hear the Masses Against the Classes?Bits and pieces..not sure if I've ever heard the entire thing.I'm having a hard time getting in to their "Brit-Pop" stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 You mean Everything Must Go? it's prob my least favorite of theirs, same with Truth really. They make me feel bad lol I prefer Know Yor Enemy back to roots kind of thing. I just realized I don't have Masses or Motown Junk cos not on main albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 You mean Everything Must Go? it's prob my least favorite of theirs, same with Truth really. They make me feel bad lol I prefer Know Yor Enemy back to roots kind of thing.I just realized I don't have Masses or Motown Junk cos not on main albums.Seems like up until SATT, they really just regrouped in to a totally different sound after Richey. I never understood that transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Everything and Truth were very melancholy but they conquered the UK with those Oasis like albums. Then they brought back the anger for Know Your Enemy. Then went pop on Lifeblood, also like New Order after Joy Divison.So I think last three are a new trilogy. SATT is like Generation Terrorist or Gold Against Soul type of album. Then Plague Lovers is another Holy Bible, Postcards brings back Everything but more optimistic.I always wonder how a song about class struggle like Design for Life would go over in the US, or how it would be seen. Even in UK it was probably taken as a drinking anthem.EMG carries weight if you know the history of the band, like how Kevin Carter is like Richey, or how Black Flowers is how he felt about his life in a band. No surface, All Feeling sums up the first three records. This is my Truth is like their most depressing but probably their commercial peak.Then they realized can do what they want to so they bring back the politics and insanity for Know Your Enemy, do a live DVD in Cuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Everything and Truth were very melancholy but they conquered the UK with those Oasis like albums. Then they brought back the anger for Know Your Enemy. Then went pop on Lifeblood, also like New Order after Joy Divison.So I think last three are a new trilogy. SATT is like Generation Terrorist or Gold Against Soul type of album. Then Plague Lovers is another Holy Bible, Postcards brings back Everything but more optimistic.I always wonder how a song about class struggle like Design for Life would go over in the US, or how it would be seen. Even in UK it was probably taken as a drinking anthem.EMG carries weight if you know the history of the band, like how Kevin Carter is like Richey, or how Black Flowers is how he felt about his life in a band. No surface, All Feeling sums up the first three records. This is my Truth is like their most depressing but probably their commercial peak.Then they realized can do what they want to so they bring back the politics and insanity for Know Your Enemy, do a live DVD in Cuba.I'll spend some time with EMG to see if it grows on me. I DO love the title track, for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 you should like Australia and Enola/alone then?I found it to be a grower type album.I think Elvis Impersonator is my favorite track.although it's kind of a filler track I always like The Girl that wanted to be God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 you should like Australia and Enola/alone then?I found it to be a grower type album.I think Elvis Impersonator is my favorite track.although it's kind of a filler track I always like The Girl that wanted to be God.I like Australian women...does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) lol yeah that counts. I don't think you're going to like Lifeblood! Edited September 23, 2011 by wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Well actually listening to EMG just now and the word I kept thinking was light. very little guitar on it. it's all very Phil Specter wall of sound kind of smooth, emotive. I definitely prefer Know your Enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 lol yeah that counts. I don't think you're going to like Lifeblood!I'll definitely keep an open mind and give it a fair shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 EMG and Truth is for playing in stadiums, Lifeblood sounds good on a stereo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 EMG and Truth is for playing in stadiums, Lifeblood sounds good on a stereo.Intriguing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Only Plague Lovers and Know Your Enemy get back to rocking like they did on the first three.if there was a Manics coffee shop Lifeblood would be playing. Manicbucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 you should like Australia and Enola/alone then?I found it to be a grower type album.I think Elvis Impersonator is my favorite track.although it's kind of a filler track I always like The Girl that wanted to be God.I like Australian women...does that count? They have bigger boobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hall Pass is exhibit A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I believe that "Lifeblood" is at the post office. Will pick it up tomorrow - thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 that was quick!I quite like listening to Lifeblood but it's their least rock album. I guess the first three were an all American trilogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I was reading Nicky is a big fan of Rush, so that's what I'm expecting from next record lol Manics go Rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I was reading Nicky is a big fan of Rush, so that's what I'm expecting from next record lol Manics go Rush.Never was a Rush fan, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I dl the greatest hits last year one track was ok. only comparison I can make both bands lyrics are a bit wordy. I just if they are going to do a double album in a more heavy metal style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I dl the greatest hits last year one track was ok. only comparison I can make both bands lyrics are a bit wordy. I just if they are going to do a double album in a more heavy metal style.GT was always an oddity for me...Obviously, Richey didn't know how to play. Explains why he's not on the album.But why did James do the bass parts? Where was Nicky? Why did Sean program a drum machine as opposed to actually playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 I dl the greatest hits last year one track was ok. only comparison I can make both bands lyrics are a bit wordy. I just if they are going to do a double album in a more heavy metal style.GT was always an oddity for me...Obviously, Richey didn't know how to play. Explains why he's not on the album.But why did James do the bass parts? Where was Nicky? Why did Sean program a drum machine as opposed to actually playing?Nicky in the beginning did not know how to play the bass. He eventually learned and got it right by Gold Against the Soul. Sean was always a technology nut, so I guess he preferred to dabble with the drum machine instead of playing the actual drum kit. I know he used it again for the title track of GAS but other than that he used an actual drum kit. In the early shows Nicky's bass playing was pretty horrific. Richey's guitar wasn't even plugged in. One time they accidentally put James' guitar on rhythm during a live show, and Richey was on lead. So the result was this quiet guitar sound with Richey not knowing what he's doing and Nicky missing notes. They fixed it by the end of the show. Richey's problem is that he can never remember to play the same notes so he ended up doing simple chords. He was recorded playing rhythm guitar on La Tritessa on GAS and No Surface All Feeling on EMG, which he actually played on the demo version in the background with the new recorded parts in the foreground. I have reason to believe James played the bass in Miss Europa Disco Dancer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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