Suggestion: Chinese Democracy 1.1 - The Chinese Democracy Re-Release

[evader]

So...take four rockers off an already ballad-heavy album from a rock band? Maybe OP should visit a Yanni forum? I don't get this at all.

[Nosaj Thing]

Who the hell would want to sink more money into an album that you practically can't give away for 2 bucks, after taking some of the best tracks off. Super retarded idea.

0.99 man.

[highvoltage]

This thread should be deleted. It's total misrepresentation; there are going to be idiots here who see this title and go spouting it off elsewhere. "I heard there's gonna be a re-release of Chinese Democracy!"

Delete this thread.

I second this

Or you know... someone could just change the title.

[Fin]

So...take four rockers off an already ballad-heavy album from a rock band? Maybe OP should visit a Yanni forum? I don't get this at all.

Don´t you think 1-6 is ass-kicking rock n roll more than worthy of the GNR label?

I´ll admit 7-10 was a bit ballad-heavy, so I inserted Scraped between Maddie and Catcher, worked out very well.

Chinese Democracy 1.11

1. Chinese Democracy

2. If The World

3. There Was a Time

4. Riad n the bedouins

5. Sorry

6. IRS

7. Street of Dreams

8. Madagascar

9. Scraped

10. Catcher In The Rye

11. This I Love

Edited June 11, 2013 by Fin

[AndreCC]

So you would take out the best song and probably one of the only 3 good songs on that album "Better" and you would have an album full of ballads? That's pure genius....

[Fin]

So you would take out the best song and probably one of the only 3 good songs on that album "Better" and you would have an album full of ballads? That's pure genius....

700 posts on a New GNR forum and you don´t like New GNR?

[AndreCC]

I didn't say i didn't like it. I said Chinese Democracy has 3 good songs (that i really like btw).

This is not a New GNR forum. It's a GNR forum, all eras!

Edited June 11, 2013 by AndreCC

[jimb0]

Who the hell would want to sink more money into an album that you practically can't give away for 2 bucks, after taking some of the best tracks off. Super retarded idea.

0.99 man.

Damn I overpaid.

[Fin]

Could make great impact on new listeners;

Chinese Democracy 1.1

1. Chinese Democracy

2. There Was a Time

3. Madagascar

4. Scraped

5. Catcher in the Rye

6. Riad n the Bedouins

7. Sorry

8. IRS

9. Street of Dreams

10. This I Love

11. Better

12. Shackler´s Revenge

13. If the World

14. Prostitute

This is my personal favorite CD Playlist.

Possibly with could also have a 2nd disc with b-sides and live recordings in the case of a re-release.

[EvH]

What's with the CD 1.1 threads lately?

[bacardimayne]

Still a terrible idea.

[wasted]

Still TIL seems to do well Live. So putting that up front on record would work. I like ITW and TWAT too so they on my playlist.

Still TIL seems to do well Live. So putting that up front on record would work. I like ITW and TWAT too so they on my playlist.

[Fin]

Still a terrible idea.

Why is it terrible idea? CD is one of the most underappreciated albums in rock history, (song wise).

The playlist of the original album is inaccessible, unless you´re a very dedicated listener. That goes for serious listeners, like reviewers, as well as for mainstream audience listeners.

In fact, even a playlist drawn at complete random would likely have been a better choice for CD.

The only ones truly appreciating the playlist seems to some of the people on this forum. Though, I´m pretty sure those guys would have appreciated a different, more accessible playlist, should have been released that way.

I can´t se what could be bad about a re-release. The album can´t possibly be more underappreciated than it already is. Axl hasn´t got anything to lose either.

Edited June 13, 2013 by Fin

[magisme]

Still a terrible idea.

[Fin]

And that´s how you reach 2K posts.

[bacardimayne]

Still a terrible idea.

Why is it terrible idea? CD is one of the most underappreciated albums in rock history, (song wise).

The playlist of the original album is inaccessible, unless you´re a very dedicated listener. That goes for serious listeners, like reviewers, as well as for mainstream audience listeners.

In fact, even a playlist drawn at complete random would likely have been a better choice for CD.

The only ones truly appreciating the playlist seems to some of the people on this forum. Though, I´m pretty sure those guys would have appreciated a different, more accessible playlist, should have been released that way.

I can´t se what could be bad about a re-release. The album can´t possibly be more underappreciated than it already is. Axl hasn´t got anything to lose either.

It was poorly appreciated the first time. To re-release it again while keeping those songs as the central selling point, with nothing much changed as far as GNR's reputation and exposure goes, would be a terrible idea. I imagine it'd sell less than 10,000 copies.

[Caught in a Coma]

Lets rerelease TSI while we're at it. I'm sure it'd sell as much as Appetite if the songs were rearranged.

[Apollo]

Still a terrible idea.

Why is it terrible idea? CD is one of the most underappreciated albums in rock history, (song wise).

The playlist of the original album is inaccessible, unless you´re a very dedicated listener. That goes for serious listeners, like reviewers, as well as for mainstream audience listeners.

In fact, even a playlist drawn at complete random would likely have been a better choice for CD.

The only ones truly appreciating the playlist seems to some of the people on this forum. Though, I´m pretty sure those guys would have appreciated a different, more accessible playlist, should have been released that way.

I can´t se what could be bad about a re-release. The album can´t possibly be more underappreciated than it already is. Axl hasn´t got anything to lose either.

It was poorly appreciated the first time. To re-release it again while keeping those songs as the central selling point, with nothing much changed as far as GNR's reputation and exposure goes, would be a terrible idea. I imagine it'd sell less than 10,000 copies.

Exactly.

The re-releasing argument is one of the weirdest and most illogical things I've ever seen on this forum.

The album wasn't underappreciated at all, as that is almost impossible in this day and age. MILLIONS of people previewed the album on myspace - listening to EVERY song. Every song is also on Youtube.

ANYBODY who was interested in a new GnR album has taken the time to listen to most of the songs from the album.

Saying albums are underrated and underappreciated are just die-hard fans making excuses when their favorite albums/artists aren't doing well.

A re-release before a new album would make GnR a laughing stock and the butt of a ton of jokes. WORST idea ever.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Groghan

[Fin]

The album wasn't underappreciated at all, as that is almost impossible in this day and age. MILLIONS of people previewed the album on myspace - listening to EVERY song. Every song is also on Youtube.

ANYBODY who was interested in a new GnR album has taken the time to listen to most of the songs from the album.

Saying albums are underrated and underappreciated are just die-hard fans making excuses when their favorite albums/artists aren't doing well.

This is on oversimplification to the extent of being an invalid argument.

Making an album (much) more difficult to listen through than it should be, (e.g. by setting the playlist bad), will of course lessen the listeners perception of the fundamental quality of the album.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Fin

[jimb0]

What's with the CD 1.1 threads lately?

I think everyone realizes there won't be a new album. Same with the reunion. If they haven't done shit in four years under this line up I doubt they will now.

[wasted]

I think CD is a good record and is kind of a document of Axl Rose. So in 20 years with crazy back story CD could be like Exile.

[Crash Diet]

Totally useless idea unless new unreleased songs popped up on this one...
without them it would be pointless as fuck
(btw Rhiad on a best of? fucking lol)

Edited June 14, 2013 by Crash Diet

[Fin]

(btw Rhiad on a best of? fucking lol)

In post 59 there were changes from the original idea.

The playlist was once again rearranged and all 14 songs will be on the re-release album.

Possibly, we could also have a 2nd disc with b-sides and/or live recordings.

From post 59;

Chinese Democracy 1.1

1. Chinese Democracy

2. There Was a Time

3. Madagascar

4. Scraped

5. Catcher in the Rye

6. Riad n the Bedouins

7. Sorry

8. IRS

9. Street of Dreams

10. This I Love

11. Better

12. Shackler´s Revenge

13. If the World

14. Prostitute

I think CD is a good record and is kind of a document of Axl Rose. So in 20 years with crazy back story CD could be like Exile.

WIth the playlist rearanged, CD could be like Exile within a year or two.

CD 1.1, music reviewers album of the year 2014. That should be the vision.

[wasted]

I think with reviewers looking at it again maybe

Chi Dem

If the World

Better

This I Love

Scraped

Sorry

Madagascar

[rockerman]

A re-release titled "Best of Chinese Democracy", or probably some more appropriate name, such as "Chinese Democracy 1.1" is perhaps what could finally seal the deal. This album deserves so much more recognition. In my not-the-least-humble opinion, a re-release is what could finally make it one of the best albums of all time.

Here´s the suggested new 10 track playlist;

1. Chinese Democracy

2. If The World

3. There Was a Time

4. Riad n the bedouins

5. Sorry

6. IRS

7. Street of Dreams

8. Madagascar

9. Catcher In The Rye

10. This I Love

The leftovers below are clearly good songs, but won´t make it the re-release;

Better: Overrated song. Simple as that.

Shacklers revenge: Pretty amazing solo, but apart from that, lacks a bit of soul imo.

Scraped: Good, not great.

Prostitute: I like the idea of that song more than I like the actual song.

This is something that has taken me hundreds of hours to figure out ever since the original album got out.

Was inspired to finally post something when the mod "Wasted" recently posted his suggestions for a new 14 track playlist.

Unlike (?) him though, I would prefer a 10 track album.

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Heres what Chinese Democracy 1.1 should be released under and as: Axl Roses Experiment . It only took me a little over an hour to figure that out....Great Songs for a experimental solo record..now can we get back to our regularly scheduled program??