moreblack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think the way Torres's career has gone since he left Liverpool the fans are probably happy he has gone now.Back to back European trophies? Yeah, poor guy.For which he basically did fuck all. Do you honestly think that the status of a player has any relevance to what they have won?No, but at the same time, if he moved to get more $$ and more trophies, he's probably not hating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 I believe Moyes - Rooney has been exemplary in this whole situation of speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaider Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Is West Ham United a mediocre team? I know Steve Harris was going to be a professional player for them at some point, before he decided to give up on his dream of becoming a footballer and discovered music and dedicated his life to Iron Maiden. And he still loves them, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Dembelele is amazing player. So no fresh strikers. AVB must beable to find someone. Kone and Benteke might do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think the way Torres's career has gone since he left Liverpool the fans are probably happy he has gone now.Back to back European trophies? Yeah, poor guy. For which he basically did fuck all. Do you honestly think that the status of a player has any relevance to what they have won?Convenient that you're forgetting Torres scoring against Barca to secure the game in the CL, then chasing down a hopeless ball to win the last minute corner that Drogba scored on in the final? 3 goals and 4 assists in the Champions League winning year - more assists than Mata and only Drogba scored more.As for the Europa League, scored in both legs of the Quarter Final, scored in the Semi final and scored in the Final. 6 goals in 9 games as Chelsea win the Cup - yeah, guess he did fuck all like you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I doubt roonwy will accept a performance related contract. PSG might be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think the way Torres's career has gone since he left Liverpool the fans are probably happy he has gone now.Back to back European trophies? Yeah, poor guy. For which he basically did fuck all. Do you honestly think that the status of a player has any relevance to what they have won?Convenient that you're forgetting Torres scoring against Barca to secure the game in the CL, then chasing down a hopeless ball to win the last minute corner that Drogba scored on in the final? 3 goals and 4 assists in the Champions League winning year - more assists than Mata and only Drogba scored more.As for the Europa League, scored in both legs of the Quarter Final, scored in the Semi final and scored in the Final. 6 goals in 9 games as Chelsea win the Cup - yeah, guess he did fuck all like you said.But, thinking about it - he had a poor season by most people's high standards. Torres of old could be near the best in the world - he looks a shadow of that former self... and still did very well last season.Just imagine him on song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I do find it ironic that he is a shadow of the player he was before he got injured at Liverpool (81 goals in 142 games at Liverpool compared with 34 in 131 at Chelsea) yet since that major injury he has won the following:World CupFA CupChampions LeagueEuropean Championship and the Golden BootEuropa LeagueConfederations Cup Golden Boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Is West Ham United a mediocre team? I know Steve Harris was going to be a professional player for them at some point, before he decided to give up on his dream of becoming a footballer and discovered music and dedicated his life to Iron Maiden. And he still loves them, I think.He does, he has their symbol on his #1 bass that he plays all the time. Must've been gutted when they got relegated a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I think the way Torres's career has gone since he left Liverpool the fans are probably happy he has gone now.Back to back European trophies? Yeah, poor guy.For which he basically did fuck all. Do you honestly think that the status of a player has any relevance to what they have won?No, but at the same time, if he moved to get more $$ and more trophies, he's probably not hating it.Oh, I don't think that he's hating it either, but I also think that he knows that he is basically nowhere near the player that he was and the extra $ and trophies won't mean a lot as he didn't earn them. I dislike him due to how he left, but I think that he'd trade in a lot of $ in order to be back to his best and earning what he is winning rather than being a passenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 But when you have people like Messi saying stuff like how he(Messi) cares more about winning things than personal numbers, I don't know if Torres is all that broken up about his current situation. We know he's not scoring as often as he should. But is all his play crap? I figure if he were true dead weight, he'd be on the bench a lot more often than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Torres is actually very important in allowing Mata and Hazard to have more space, plus he drags defenders away from Lampards advancing runs. Don't think I am blind to Torres' failings, he is hot and cold in games and his hold up play in the first season was terrible. He has improved a lot, and generally when Torres and Villa were up front together for Spain during his Liverpool times it was slightly more about Torres occupying defenders and Villa getting the goals.We see so many glimpses of Torres looking back to his best, when he gets wound up or angry he suddenly skins a defender, makes the classic runs... it is still there, just inconsistent.He admits the problems and realises that he isn't doing what he used to. I think the only time in 2 1/2 years that the fans haven't supported him is when Rafa came in, dropped Mata and Oscar and we were losing, then the fans got on Torres' back as a petty side swipe at Rafa. Otherwise we have been cheering Torres all the way through and is something I wouldn't expect from many clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/219085.htmlRooney ain't goin' nowhere apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 I believe he'll do it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/219227.htmlWhat do yous make of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaider Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 It's bullshit. Their wanting to play in the Premier League has nothing to do with the stadiums being full or with the respect for players and coaches. Who the fuck writes this shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Torres is the ultimate big game player. Or a complete fraud. Hes scored in most finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Is Thiago to United as good a deal as it sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 I think it will be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Def mid or centrebacks is what utd need. So seems alright. Maybe Kagawa can have more impact he's very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I think the way Torres's career has gone since he left Liverpool the fans are probably happy he has gone now.Back to back European trophies? Yeah, poor guy. For which he basically did fuck all. Do you honestly think that the status of a player has any relevance to what they have won?Convenient that you're forgetting Torres scoring against Barca to secure the game in the CL, then chasing down a hopeless ball to win the last minute corner that Drogba scored on in the final? 3 goals and 4 assists in the Champions League winning year - more assists than Mata and only Drogba scored more.As for the Europa League, scored in both legs of the Quarter Final, scored in the Semi final and scored in the Final. 6 goals in 9 games as Chelsea win the Cup - yeah, guess he did fuck all like you said.I didn't say that he did fuck all, you mouth-breather. I said that he did basically fuck all. Torres has been absolutely woeful for a number of years now and whenever he has shown glimpses of form it hasn't lasted for more than a few games. If you think that Torres goes to bed at night thinking that he is the man that he once was or that he is pulling his weight then you are foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Yeah, don't get us wrong, 22 goals in 64 games isn't bad... but I really think he's probably double better than that at his best... which he falls woefully short of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I think the way Torres's career has gone since he left Liverpool the fans are probably happy he has gone now.Back to back European trophies? Yeah, poor guy. For which he basically did fuck all. Do you honestly think that the status of a player has any relevance to what they have won?Convenient that you're forgetting Torres scoring against Barca to secure the game in the CL, then chasing down a hopeless ball to win the last minute corner that Drogba scored on in the final? 3 goals and 4 assists in the Champions League winning year - more assists than Mata and only Drogba scored more.As for the Europa League, scored in both legs of the Quarter Final, scored in the Semi final and scored in the Final. 6 goals in 9 games as Chelsea win the Cup - yeah, guess he did fuck all like you said. I didn't say that he did fuck all, you mouth-breather. I said that he did basically fuck all. Torres has been absolutely woeful for a number of years now and whenever he has shown glimpses of form it hasn't lasted for more than a few games. If you think that Torres goes to bed at night thinking that he is the man that he once was or that he is pulling his weight then you are foolish.Nice work on ignoring my later post where I said:"He admits the problems and realises that he isn't doing what he used to." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I think the way Torres's career has gone since he left Liverpool the fans are probably happy he has gone now.Back to back European trophies? Yeah, poor guy. For which he basically did fuck all. Do you honestly think that the status of a player has any relevance to what they have won?Convenient that you're forgetting Torres scoring against Barca to secure the game in the CL, then chasing down a hopeless ball to win the last minute corner that Drogba scored on in the final? 3 goals and 4 assists in the Champions League winning year - more assists than Mata and only Drogba scored more.As for the Europa League, scored in both legs of the Quarter Final, scored in the Semi final and scored in the Final. 6 goals in 9 games as Chelsea win the Cup - yeah, guess he did fuck all like you said. I didn't say that he did fuck all, you mouth-breather. I said that he did basically fuck all. Torres has been absolutely woeful for a number of years now and whenever he has shown glimpses of form it hasn't lasted for more than a few games. If you think that Torres goes to bed at night thinking that he is the man that he once was or that he is pulling his weight then you are foolish.Nice work on ignoring my later post where I said:"He admits the problems and realises that he isn't doing what he used to."I wasn't ignoring it; I was just answering this specific point from this specific post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsicoca Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 (edited) welcome to brazil (part 2):Brazilian referee quartered and beheaded by fans after killing a playerhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2357279/Brazilian-referee-quartered-beheaded-fans-killing-player.htmlThe referee was supposedly quartered and then had his head cut off before it was stuck on a stake. This shocking act of violence was in retaliation after he 'stabbed' one of the players on the pitch in the Pius XII stadium, Maranhao. According to Correio24horas, Octavio da Silva Catanhede Jordan, 20, sent off Josenir dos Santos Abreu, who refused to leave the field and began insulting him. The referee is said to have been carrying a knife and he stabbed the player several times.Fans - believed to be friends or relatives of the player - ran onto the field and stoned the referee to death.They are then said to have cut him into quarters and put his head on a spike. Edited July 7, 2013 by pepsicoca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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