Rovim Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'm honestly a bit scared that Myles voice is going to ruin that cool riff we just heard. I mean, his voice is really great - in the right type of material. I'm hoping for the best!I think Fortress is a really good album, and Myles was a big part of that. I really dislike his voice on Slash songs, and I admit the thought has crossed my mind when listening to that riff, but I'm optimistic cause I think Myles is capable of not sounding like a dying cat.I hope the lyrics won't be dumb this time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashrocks7 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Ok guys, I understand this is gnrforum.com so bash myles' voice all you want, but his lyrics are very good. Its ignorant to say otherwise because then you obviously don't know what hes talking about, you may think it sounds like hes trying to sound like hes been through stuff, but I can assure you 100 of his lyrics are not only true are serious and creative. I mean the lineDon't close your eyesSomething beautiful is still aliveTheres an example of him being creative, he summed up a lot in two lines that sound beautiful and driving and sounds exactly like the meaning that they have behind them.And I only used the example to show the creative part, that not only are his lyrics serious but true, but he takes time to write them out in a certain way. Im not using that as an example of lyrics that you guys think he is making up, I know all of his lyrics and I dont want to give a ton of examplesserious and true* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghat43 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 The lyrics on AL sucked for the most part...didn't Myles write those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashrocks7 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 your definition of sucked or understanding of lyrics are very off, one or both of the two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghat43 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) your definition of sucked or understanding of lyrics are very off, one or both of the two.Fair enough...I guess we just have a difference of opinion...IMO the lyrics (not all, but most) on AL sucked..."Bloodlust tonight, bite my tongue and hold it inFrom deep inside she aches for every part of himIn the rapture of the midnight sunShe is longing for immortal loveNew moon hangs high, tell me will it ever end?Oh, oh, whoa, ohoHere comes the bad rain,Falling from an aching heartHere comes the bad rainDon’t know when it’s gonna stop..."I guess I just don't understand them well enough to recognize how great they are. Edited February 28, 2014 by foghat43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashrocks7 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 those are really good lyricsaxl is also a very good lyracist however you spell ituse your illusion coma is one of the most complicated songs ever, and all of uyi is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 I'm honestly a bit scared that Myles voice is going to ruin that cool riff we just heard. I mean, his voice is really great - in the right type of material. I'm hoping for the best!I think Fortress is a really good album, and Myles was a big part of that. I really dislike his voice on Slash songs, and I admit the thought has crossed my mind when listening to that riff, but I'm optimistic cause I think Myles is capable of not sounding like a dying cat.I hope the lyrics won't be dumb this time as well.During The Metal Show Eddie Truck was talking about his vocal range and how he can get 4 octaves or whatever, and myles said he's got to be more conscious of that as he gets older and may not be able to hit the high notes as he gets older so he may hold back a bit more on future recordings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Ok guys, I understand this is gnrforum.com so bash myles' voice all you want, but his lyrics are very good. Its ignorant to say otherwise because then you obviously don't know what hes talking about, you may think it sounds like hes trying to sound like hes been through stuff, but I can assure you 100 of his lyrics are not only true are serious and creative.I think you're exaggerating a bit. Nobody is bashing him, at least not me, or Rovim. I personally think Myles is a incredibly talented, down-to-earth human being, professional, vocalist and frontman but he's not a perfect 10. He has flaws like everyone else. I don't enjoy his take on GN'R songs, maybe because I'm too used to Axl's voice but, considering Axl sounds utterly awful nowadays, I'd take Myles in a heartbeat. As for his songwriting skills, I'm sure there are people like you who look at his lyrics as inspirational and awesome but you can't force others to look at them the same way. I don't really mind his lyrics.I see you're new in the forum so I hope you stay around here for a bit. Not everyone hates Myles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghat43 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Just for the record...I don't hate Myles and I wasn't bashing him. I just think it is a stretch to call him a great lyric writer. IMO his vocals , lyrics and stage presence are just average. And like Nosaj, I don't enjoy his take on GnR songs. I think his voice is OK in the mid to lower ranges, but horrible when he tries to go high. Just my opinion. And it's really a shame too...many folks are of the opinion that Slash has been in top form the last few years and arguably doing some of the best playing of his career (at least live)...just think what he might be doing if he was teamed up with a really great songwriter and singer. And by the way, my only exposure to Myles is his work with Slash. I don't listen to Alter Bridge...so perhaps that has something to do with why our opinons are so different. And regardless of my opinion of Myles, I can't wait to hear this new Slash album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 To some extent ihearwhat you guys are saying about myles andgnr songs - but rmember this, your comparing him to an axl that doesn't exist anymore - and not many singers are gonna do abetter job on gnr than myles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 You guys are forgetting that Myles wrote the lyrics to Blackbird"The willow it weeps todayA breeze from the distance is calling your nameUnfurl your black wings and waitAcross the horizon it's coming to sweep you awayIt's coming to sweep you awayLet the wind carry you homeBlackbird fly awayMay you never be broken againThe fragile cannot endureThe wrecked and the jaded a place so impureThe static of this cruel worldCause some birds to fly long before they've seen their dayLong before they've seen their dayLet the wind carry you homeBlackbird fly awayMay you never be broken againBeyond the suffering you've knownI hope you find your wayMay you never be broken againAscend may you find no resistanceKnow that you made such a differenceAll you leave behind will live to the endThe cycle of suffering goes onBut memories of you stay strongSomeday I too will fly and find you againLet the wind carry you homeBlackbird fly awayMay you never be broken againBeyond the suffering you've knownI hope you find your wayMay you never be broken againMay you never be broken again"He has written lots of other great lyrics too, there are a lot on Fortress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah I like it hear chunky as http://youtu.be/ZAHTu7Pc5Nw?t=2m52sThat's the guitar he was looking for a while ago, right? It's a damn shame it was stolen. The sustain that guitar had was unbelievable.Yeah has got great sastain it's sounds killer in estranged with the volume swells. Sounds like he going for a more Ritz 1988 tone then a illusions tone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 And rocket queen Tokyo 92 just wicked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Stu Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Im with you on Blackbird ZoSoRose. It's my favorite song. I normally listen for the music and most of the time don't put much thought into what the lyrics are about but Blackbird grabs me everytime I listen to it and really brings out some emotions. Great solos on it as well that really elevate it towards the end."Not for me" on AL gets me as well.I hope Myles can step it up a bit on this one and get away from the predicable verse chorus bridge as I have a feeling in my bones the music is going to be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashrocks7 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 LET TUESDAY 6:30 A.M BE NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anguyen92 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Im with you on Blackbird ZoSoRose. It's my favorite song. I normally listen for the music and most of the time don't put much thought into what the lyrics are about but Blackbird grabs me everytime I listen to it and really brings out some emotions. Great solos on it as well that really elevate it towards the end."Not for me" on AL gets me as well.I hope Myles can step it up a bit on this one and get away from the predicable verse chorus bridge as I have a feeling in my bones the music is going to be great. Well, it's not like anyone these days are going to get away from that standard music structure without totally going progressive, which I may doubt Slash may be game for (going prog). Even though Mark Tremonti and Myles stated that they wanted to get away with the standard song structure in Fortress, they still had all of those "predictable" structure elements. The difference though is that they manage to add a lot of depth while working these structures. It's something like that which is why I hate it when people say that bands need to get away from the standard song structure for a song to be good. What structure could be applied for a band like this? Edited March 1, 2014 by Anguyen92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted March 1, 2014 Author Share Posted March 1, 2014 Yeah, and that is more up to Slash as he is the primary song writer. I love his stuff but Slash is very much in the standard song progression (verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-solo-chorus) state of mind. It'd be nice of him to change it up a bit on this. I am not saying the songs are bad, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashrocks7 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 who else is excited for the next preview? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Stu Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Well, it's not like anyone these days are going to get away from that standard music structure without totally going progressive, which I may doubt Slash may be game for (going prog). Even though Mark Tremonti and Myles stated that they wanted to get away with the standard song structure in Fortress, they still had all of those "predictable" structure elements. The difference though is that they manage to add a lot of depth while working these structures. It's something like that which is why I hate it when people say that bands need to get away from the standard song structure for a song to be good. What structure could be applied for a band like this?I Probably should of made myself a bit clearer. It's not that i have anything against verse/chorus/bridge structure. To me there were to many songs on Apocalyptic Love had a bridge forced into the song that didn't fit the song. Standing in the Sun has a groove throughout the song that is interupted by a bridge that to me doesn't fit. Anastasia is six minutes with no bridge and is perfect. Favorite part of the record is the extended endings of Standing in the Sun and Anastasia. More Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashrocks7 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 the bridge in standing in the sun fits perfectlyId say apocalyptic love is an incredibly underrated song 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarBradley Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Id say apocalyptic love is an incredibly underrated songCool riff, cool use of wah, cool solo, simple rock verse, what's not to like? I agree, I love AL the song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Id say apocalyptic love is an incredibly underrated song Cool riff, cool use of wah, cool solo, simple rock verse, what's not to like? I agree, I love AL the song.One of my favorites on the album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashrocks7 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Just the song as a whole, everything, I mean the chorus is just amazing, and the way the did the outro, from the solo on, plus everything you guys noted, plus bridge, plus anything I didnt mentionlol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 who else is excited for the next preview?I am! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash2baz Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Studio in FLorida ready to welcome Slash ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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