236 Palestinians killed to 1 Israeli

[Lio]

Well to be precise, the land originally belonged to a group of Semitic speaking people that were displaced by the Israelites, who in turn were displaced first by the Assyrians, then the Babylonians, then returned by the Persians and again displaced by the Romans who some remained and eventually came under the rule of the Caliphates who did not mind Jews living there. But for a very short period it was Israel and for most of its history the land belonged to other people. It belongs to whoever was living there at the time. Not a bunch of forigners sanctioned by an international body who are supposed to protect the people living in their own countries from being displaced.

They jumped right onto Bosnia and Kosovo. But Israel happens to be supported by powerful friends. That is why they are getting away with being oppressors.

Because it has powerful friends and maybe because there's still the holocaust trauma/feeling of guilt ?

[Ace Nova]

Syrians like Palestinians are not from Arabia. They are merely Arabised. Note regular Joes in those countries are distunguished from Bedouins so as to address Birdy on the nomadic front.

That's what was asking. So I guess that's why they aren't completely accepted by other arab populations in the Middle East?

Edited July 25, 2014 by Kasanova King

[Ace Nova]

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I can't even begin to fathom your logic. This is like if some guy threw a rock at you, and you went and butchered him and everyone who happened to be standing around him with a rocket launcher (a far superior weapon) then said "I'm not responsible for their deaths, he condemned them all when he threw the rock".

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@ Graeme

It wasn't a rock. They have fired thousands of missiles/rockets. Thus, your reasoning/example is utterly flawed. We're talking nations, not personal fights....only involving one person. Sovereign nations have every right to defend themselves.. Likewise, I can't begin to phantom your logic. Makes me wonder if there is some underlying antisemitism there.

Because had Hamas fired missiles at Scotland,(and had been doing it regularly since the early 2000's) I'm certain you wouldn't mind Scotland defending itself. Right?

And btw, if that idiot throwing the rock knows I can kick his ass...and everyone he knows' ass, then yes, he should have known better before throwing the rock. I learned that lesson when I was 5 years old.

Edited July 25, 2014 by Kasanova King

[luciusfunk]

Syrians like Palestinians are not from Arabia. They are merely Arabised. Note regular Joes in those countries are distunguished from Bedouins so as to address Birdy on the nomadic front.

Thanks man, you can take it from here if you want.

Nah, the land is Israel's, always has been Israel's and always will be Israel's.

Well to be precise, the land originally belonged to a group of Semitic speaking people that were displaced by the Israelites, who in turn were displaced first by the Assyrians, then the Babylonians, then returned by the Persians and again displaced by the Romans who some remained and eventually came under the rule of the Caliphates who did not mind Jews living there. But for a very short period it was Israel and for most of its history the land belonged to other people. It belongs to whoever was living there at the time. Not a bunch of forigners sanctioned by an international body who are supposed to protect the people living in their own countries from being displaced.

They jumped right onto Bosnia and Kosovo. But Israel happens to be supported by powerful friends. That is why they are getting away with being oppressors.

Well to be precise, it's the land promised to the Jews by God.

[Lio]

Syrians like Palestinians are not from Arabia. They are merely Arabised. Note regular Joes in those countries are distunguished from Bedouins so as to address Birdy on the nomadic front.

Thanks man, you can take it from here if you want.

Nah, the land is Israel's, always has been Israel's and always will be Israel's.

Well to be precise, the land originally belonged to a group of Semitic speaking people that were displaced by the Israelites, who in turn were displaced first by the Assyrians, then the Babylonians, then returned by the Persians and again displaced by the Romans who some remained and eventually came under the rule of the Caliphates who did not mind Jews living there. But for a very short period it was Israel and for most of its history the land belonged to other people. It belongs to whoever was living there at the time. Not a bunch of forigners sanctioned by an international body who are supposed to protect the people living in their own countries from being displaced.

They jumped right onto Bosnia and Kosovo. But Israel happens to be supported by powerful friends. That is why they are getting away with being oppressors.

Well to be precise, it's the land promised to the Jews by God.

Well to be precise, it's the land promised to the Jews by the guys that wrote the Bible.

[Georgy Zhukov]

God also made promises to the Christians and Muslims. Sorry but God is a player.

[luciusfunk]

God also made promises to the Christians and Muslims. Sorry but God is a player.

[Dazey]

Syrians like Palestinians are not from Arabia. They are merely Arabised. Note regular Joes in those countries are distunguished from Bedouins so as to address Birdy on the nomadic front.

Thanks man, you can take it from here if you want.

Nah, the land is Israel's, always has been Israel's and always will be Israel's.

Well to be precise, the land originally belonged to a group of Semitic speaking people that were displaced by the Israelites, who in turn were displaced first by the Assyrians, then the Babylonians, then returned by the Persians and again displaced by the Romans who some remained and eventually came under the rule of the Caliphates who did not mind Jews living there. But for a very short period it was Israel and for most of its history the land belonged to other people. It belongs to whoever was living there at the time. Not a bunch of forigners sanctioned by an international body who are supposed to protect the people living in their own countries from being displaced.

They jumped right onto Bosnia and Kosovo. But Israel happens to be supported by powerful friends. That is why they are getting away with being oppressors.

Well to be precise, it's the land promised to the Jews by God.

God doesn't exist so that argument is void.

[luciusfunk]

Syrians like Palestinians are not from Arabia. They are merely Arabised. Note regular Joes in those countries are distunguished from Bedouins so as to address Birdy on the nomadic front.

Thanks man, you can take it from here if you want.

Nah, the land is Israel's, always has been Israel's and always will be Israel's.

Well to be precise, the land originally belonged to a group of Semitic speaking people that were displaced by the Israelites, who in turn were displaced first by the Assyrians, then the Babylonians, then returned by the Persians and again displaced by the Romans who some remained and eventually came under the rule of the Caliphates who did not mind Jews living there. But for a very short period it was Israel and for most of its history the land belonged to other people. It belongs to whoever was living there at the time. Not a bunch of forigners sanctioned by an international body who are supposed to protect the people living in their own countries from being displaced.

They jumped right onto Bosnia and Kosovo. But Israel happens to be supported by powerful friends. That is why they are getting away with being oppressors.

Well to be precise, it's the land promised to the Jews by God.

God doesn't exist so that argument is void.

[AtariLegend]

Sitting on the fence politics disgusts me. Alot of the people, but not all in abstaining countries are disgusted. However they're not going to vote against the US/Israel for political reasons.

Which unfortunately leaves a few countries that do have the balls to vote against them, but that ends up not mattering since a few of the others have their own agendas against the west.

Edited July 25, 2014 by AtariLegend

[Johnny Drama]

Syrians like Palestinians are not from Arabia. They are merely Arabised. Note regular Joes in those countries are distunguished from Bedouins so as to address Birdy on the nomadic front.

Thanks man, you can take it from here if you want.

Nah, the land is Israel's, always has been Israel's and always will be Israel's.

Well to be precise, the land originally belonged to a group of Semitic speaking people that were displaced by the Israelites, who in turn were displaced first by the Assyrians, then the Babylonians, then returned by the Persians and again displaced by the Romans who some remained and eventually came under the rule of the Caliphates who did not mind Jews living there. But for a very short period it was Israel and for most of its history the land belonged to other people. It belongs to whoever was living there at the time. Not a bunch of forigners sanctioned by an international body who are supposed to protect the people living in their own countries from being displaced.

They jumped right onto Bosnia and Kosovo. But Israel happens to be supported by powerful friends. That is why they are getting away with being oppressors.

Well those "Semitic speaking people" or Canaanites were Israelites or the ancestors there of. They were never displaced as the Bible or whatever might want you to think. Archaeology, language and even Judaism itself, fondly enough prove that.

The Israelites/Jews that were displaced during the Assyrian, Babylonian exiles and after the Roman-Jewish wars were more likely to be city dwellers, ergo resulting in those rural folk left behind having their culture changed with a tiny bit of intermarriage with the invaders and a good old fun game of mistaken identity to be played by returning Jews that came back ie. Samaritans in the first case and Palestinians in the latter.

[Georgy Zhukov]

The Assyrians favorite tactic against rebellious population is resettlement and destroying of their culture. So those Jews that were taken away by the Assyrians eventually became just like everyone else in the region. Abandoned Yahweh in favor of whatever diety is being worshipped at the time and place eventually going back to God except this time they call him Allah.

[bran]

12 hour ceasefire while talks continue

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-strip.html?_r=0

Edited July 26, 2014 by bran

[luciusfunk]

The Assyrians favorite tactic against rebellious population is resettlement and destroying of their culture. So those Jews that were taken away by the Assyrians eventually became just like everyone else in the region. Abandoned Yahweh in favor of whatever diety is being worshipped at the time and place eventually going back to God except this time they call him Allah.

No. Just no.

[Ace Nova]

12 hour ceasefire while talks continue

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-strip.html?_r=0

That's at least a start. Instead of taking sides (I'm guilty of it too), we should be hoping and praying for peace.

It's easy to take one side or another, from thousands of miles away....and to tell you the truth, it's somewhat hypocritical of us to do so....especially since most of us have been fortunate enough never to have gone through what both Israelis and Palestinians have gone through over the last several decades.

[bran]

12 hour ceasefire while talks continue

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/26/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-strip.html?_r=0

That's at least a start. Instead of taking sides (I'm guilty of it too), we should be hoping and praying for peace.

It's easy to take one side or another, from thousands of miles away....and to tell you the truth, it's somewhat hypocritical of us to do so....especially since most of us have been fortunate enough never to have gone through what both Israelis and Palestinians have gone through over the last several decades.

yeah i agree.

[Johnny Drama]

The Assyrians favorite tactic against rebellious population is resettlement and destroying of their culture. So those Jews that were taken away by the Assyrians eventually became just like everyone else in the region. Abandoned Yahweh in favor of whatever diety is being worshipped at the time and place eventually going back to God except this time they call him Allah.

No. Just no.

?

[Dazey]

The Assyrians favorite tactic against rebellious population is resettlement and destroying of their culture. So those Jews that were taken away by the Assyrians eventually became just like everyone else in the region. Abandoned Yahweh in favor of whatever diety is being worshipped at the time and place eventually going back to God except this time they call him Allah.

No. Just no.

?

Yeah, Muslims pray to the wrong imaginary sky fairy.

[luciusfunk]

The Assyrians favorite tactic against rebellious population is resettlement and destroying of their culture. So those Jews that were taken away by the Assyrians eventually became just like everyone else in the region. Abandoned Yahweh in favor of whatever diety is being worshipped at the time and place eventually going back to God except this time they call him Allah.

No. Just no.

?

Yeah, Muslims pray to the wrong imaginary sky fairy.

[Georgy Zhukov]

The Assyrians favorite tactic against rebellious population is resettlement and destroying of their culture. So those Jews that were taken away by the Assyrians eventually became just like everyone else in the region. Abandoned Yahweh in favor of whatever diety is being worshipped at the time and place eventually going back to God except this time they call him Allah.

No. Just no.

?

Yeah, Muslims pray to the wrong imaginary sky fairy.

Sorry but Allah and God are one in the same.

[***Flawless]

Just disputing some lies by pro-Israel people.

Hamas do not use people as human shields: http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/07/jeremy-bowens-gaza-notebook-i-saw-no-evidence-hamas-using-palestinians-human

The 3 Israeli teens killed, were not at the hands of Hamas: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html

Also, for the recent UN school bombing; Israel did not allow evacuation of civilians: http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2014/jul/24/gaza-crisis-palestinian-death-toll-passes-700-live-updates

[luciusfunk]

The Assyrians favorite tactic against rebellious population is resettlement and destroying of their culture. So those Jews that were taken away by the Assyrians eventually became just like everyone else in the region. Abandoned Yahweh in favor of whatever diety is being worshipped at the time and place eventually going back to God except this time they call him Allah.

No. Just no.

?

Yeah, Muslims pray to the wrong imaginary sky fairy.

Sorry but Allah and God are one in the same.

[Georgy Zhukov]

Goddammit, I miss Lenny.

[Johnny Drama]

Goddammit, I miss Lenny.

[bran]

cease fire extended until 5pm ET. good news, at least people wont be blown to pieces for a bit longer, and hopefully a deal is struck soon.