Rovim Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) ^^^It's not just a rumor. Axl ranted about it in one of his 2002 shows saying how Slash and Duff were like "no, ain't gonna work on those 2 songs fuck that."Yeah, I love the outro as well. Tip. Axl lies.I don't know if he lies, or if he just rewrites history in his head. Both are as possible as what he said happened. To be fair, we have no reason to believe it didn't happen the way Axl said it did in this case. November Rain and Estranged are not what Slash and Duff were typically into back then.Well the songs are existing and they're including some greatfull work not only by Axl, so I have a reason to believe it didn't happen the way like Axl expressed itBut just because the songs exist, or Slash and Duff did a great job, doesn't mean they wanted to work on them when there were only Axl's ideas to build on. Is it so hard to believe that musicians like Slash and Duff that are influenced more profoundly by other bands that are not Elton and Queen will not be into some long ass piano ballads? we now believe even more. Edited December 26, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Believe what you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ^^^It's not just a rumor. Axl ranted about it in one of his 2002 shows saying how Slash and Duff were like "no, ain't gonna work on those 2 songs fuck that."Yeah, I love the outro as well. Tip. Axl lies.I don't know if he lies, or if he just rewrites history in his head. Both are as possible as what he said happened. To be fair, we have no reason to believe it didn't happen the way Axl said it did in this case. November Rain and Estranged are not what Slash and Duff were typically into back then.Well the songs are existing and they're including some greatfull work not only by Axl, so I have a reason to believe it didn't happen the way like Axl expressed itUsing that logic SCOM shouldn't exist since Slash freely admitted that he was too cool for that. Wonder why it does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ^^^It's not just a rumor. Axl ranted about it in one of his 2002 shows saying how Slash and Duff were like "no, ain't gonna work on those 2 songs fuck that."Yeah, I love the outro as well. Tip. Axl lies.I don't know if he lies, or if he just rewrites history in his head. Both are as possible as what he said happened. To be fair, we have no reason to believe it didn't happen the way Axl said it did in this case. November Rain and Estranged are not what Slash and Duff were typically into back then.Well the songs are existing and they're including some greatfull work not only by Axl, so I have a reason to believe it didn't happen the way like Axl expressed it Using that logic SCOM shouldn't exist since Slash freely admitted that he was too cool for that. Wonder why it does?Slash lied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ^^^It's not just a rumor. Axl ranted about it in one of his 2002 shows saying how Slash and Duff were like "no, ain't gonna work on those 2 songs fuck that."Yeah, I love the outro as well. Tip. Axl lies.I don't know if he lies, or if he just rewrites history in his head. Both are as possible as what he said happened. To be fair, we have no reason to believe it didn't happen the way Axl said it did in this case. November Rain and Estranged are not what Slash and Duff were typically into back then.Well the songs are existing and they're including some greatfull work not only by Axl, so I have a reason to believe it didn't happen the way like Axl expressed it Using that logic SCOM shouldn't exist since Slash freely admitted that he was too cool for that. Wonder why it does?Slash lied What else is new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ^^^It's not just a rumor. Axl ranted about it in one of his 2002 shows saying how Slash and Duff were like "no, ain't gonna work on those 2 songs fuck that."Yeah, I love the outro as well. Tip. Axl lies.I don't know if he lies, or if he just rewrites history in his head. Both are as possible as what he said happened. To be fair, we have no reason to believe it didn't happen the way Axl said it did in this case. November Rain and Estranged are not what Slash and Duff were typically into back then.Well the songs are existing and they're including some greatfull work not only by Axl, so I have a reason to believe it didn't happen the way like Axl expressed it Using that logic SCOM shouldn't exist since Slash freely admitted that he was too cool for that. Wonder why it does?Slash lied What else is new?That was new to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ^^^It's not just a rumor. Axl ranted about it in one of his 2002 shows saying how Slash and Duff were like "no, ain't gonna work on those 2 songs fuck that."Yeah, I love the outro as well. Tip. Axl lies.I don't know if he lies, or if he just rewrites history in his head. Both are as possible as what he said happened. To be fair, we have no reason to believe it didn't happen the way Axl said it did in this case. November Rain and Estranged are not what Slash and Duff were typically into back then.Well the songs are existing and they're including some greatfull work not only by Axl, so I have a reason to believe it didn't happen the way like Axl expressed it Using that logic SCOM shouldn't exist since Slash freely admitted that he was too cool for that. Wonder why it does?Slash lied What else is new?That was new to you?Sarcasm my friend, sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 ^^^It's not just a rumor. Axl ranted about it in one of his 2002 shows saying how Slash and Duff were like "no, ain't gonna work on those 2 songs fuck that."Yeah, I love the outro as well. Tip. Axl lies.I don't know if he lies, or if he just rewrites history in his head. Both are as possible as what he said happened. To be fair, we have no reason to believe it didn't happen the way Axl said it did in this case. November Rain and Estranged are not what Slash and Duff were typically into back then.Well the songs are existing and they're including some greatfull work not only by Axl, so I have a reason to believe it didn't happen the way like Axl expressed it Using that logic SCOM shouldn't exist since Slash freely admitted that he was too cool for that. Wonder why it does?Slash lied What else is new?That was new to you? Sarcasm my friend, sarcasm.Ah... really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Indeed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Axl got caught out lying the other day on this forum. He said Stradlin's guitar was turned down in 1993 because he was stoned (Izzy had been sober for two years). Axl lied about the Snakepit thing also. He said, Slash insisted on singing these lyrics however the lyrics were penned much later by Dover! There was actually no lyrics in place.This.Axl is a compulsive liar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.Yeah, he should have just told the truth that the songs sucked too bad for him to even bother with trying to save. Most of the population would have agreed with him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.Yeah, he should have just told the truth that the songs sucked too bad for him to even bother with trying to save. Most of the population would have agreed with him anyway.I don't even know whether the Snakepit songs are bad. I can't listen to an album with such an awful singer. Ruins the whole experience. I've probably heard about 2 songs off Snakepit and I don't remember either of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.Yeah, he should have just told the truth that the songs sucked too bad for him to even bother with trying to save. Most of the population would have agreed with him anyway.I don't even know whether the Snakepit songs are bad. I can't listen to an album with such an awful singer. Ruins the whole experience. I've probably heard about 2 songs off Snakepit and I don't remember either of them.So you prefer Chinese over WOF. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.Yeah, he should have just told the truth that the songs sucked too bad for him to even bother with trying to save. Most of the population would have agreed with him anyway.I don't even know whether the Snakepit songs are bad. I can't listen to an album with such an awful singer. Ruins the whole experience. I've probably heard about 2 songs off Snakepit and I don't remember either of them.So you prefer Chinese over WOF. Interesting.Myles isn't terrible. He just has no personality, to his voice or to himself.Regardless, yes, CD is better than WOF. Not sure why that's interesting though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.Yeah, he should have just told the truth that the songs sucked too bad for him to even bother with trying to save. Most of the population would have agreed with him anyway.I don't even know whether the Snakepit songs are bad. I can't listen to an album with such an awful singer. Ruins the whole experience. I've probably heard about 2 songs off Snakepit and I don't remember either of them.So you prefer Chinese over WOF. Interesting.Myles isn't terrible. He just has no personality, to his voice or to himself.Regardless, yes, CD is better than WOF. Not sure why that's interesting though.It's not. On second thought it's boring, you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.Yeah, he should have just told the truth that the songs sucked too bad for him to even bother with trying to save. Most of the population would have agreed with him anyway.I don't even know whether the Snakepit songs are bad. I can't listen to an album with such an awful singer. Ruins the whole experience. I've probably heard about 2 songs off Snakepit and I don't remember either of them.To be honest, I can't remember much of it myself. I remember it was such a load of horseshit when it launched that I decided never to waste my time with it again. I really don't see how my opinion could change when Slash was like a god to me at that time and I think I've quite subtly alluded to the fact that that is no longer the case in this day and age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.Yeah, he should have just told the truth that the songs sucked too bad for him to even bother with trying to save. Most of the population would have agreed with him anyway.I don't even know whether the Snakepit songs are bad. I can't listen to an album with such an awful singer. Ruins the whole experience. I've probably heard about 2 songs off Snakepit and I don't remember either of them.To be honest, I can't remember much of it myself. I remember it was such a load of horseshit when it launched that I decided never to waste my time with it again. I really don't see how my opinion could change when Slash was like a god to me at that time and I think I've quite subtly alluded to the fact that that is no longer the case in this day and age.Yes. Totally. Quite subtly. You're a subtle kind of guy. Damn_Subtle. Edited December 29, 2014 by Rovim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.Yeah, he should have just told the truth that the songs sucked too bad for him to even bother with trying to save. Most of the population would have agreed with him anyway.I don't even know whether the Snakepit songs are bad. I can't listen to an album with such an awful singer. Ruins the whole experience. I've probably heard about 2 songs off Snakepit and I don't remember either of them.To be honest, I can't remember much of it myself. I remember it was such a load of horseshit when it launched that I decided never to waste my time with it again. I really don't see how my opinion could change when Slash was like a god to me at that time and I think I've quite subtly alluded to the fact that that is no longer the case in this day and age. Yes. Totally. Quite subtly. You're a subtle kind of guy. Damn_Subtle.That's how I roll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.'Just shut up and sing' was some great advice from Slash. Too bad Axl was only listening to the Beta, lawyers and vibe sniffers at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.'Just shut up and sing' was some great advice from Slash. Too bad Axl was only listening to the Beta, lawyers and vibe sniffers at the time.But Axl got the last laugh with the brilliant, years in the making retort, "You know where to put your shut up and sing." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.'Just shut up and sing' was some great advice from Slash. Too bad Axl was only listening to the Beta, lawyers and vibe sniffers at the time.But Axl got the last laugh with the brilliant, years in the making retort, "You know where to put your shut up and sing." Lol yeah... Still waiting for Axl to kick his ass like he said that he would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) "To hell with the pressure, I'm not caving in." I find many different meanings hidden in these cryptic lyrics. You can tell Axl grew not only as an artist, but as a human being. Oozing complexity. Edited December 29, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Ah, yes, the complex lines where he rhymes "in" with "in". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The whole story about Slash telling Axl that he had to do the songs as is with no changes is one of the funnier things Axl tries to have us believe.'Just shut up and sing' was some great advice from Slash. Too bad Axl was only listening to the Beta, lawyers and vibe sniffers at the time.But Axl got the last laugh with the brilliant, years in the making retort, "You know where to put your shut up and sing." Lol yeah... Still waiting for Axl to kick his ass like he said that he would."I'll kick your ass like I said that I would" and "Truth is the truth hurts" are the dumbest lines I have heard in my life. Axl became a terrible joke with that song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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