Towelie Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Bit of a long intro 1:31.Ray Charles on piano. MJ on vocals.From 1999 believe it or not.... You may mock it, but there's no denying, this man truly was unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 0/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 I really like it. But the one thing I always admired about MJ was how completely unconcerned he was about being considered "cool." I mean, who else (in the realm of popular music) would record a song like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) I really like it. But the one thing I always admired about MJ was how completely unconcerned he was about being considered "cool." I mean, who else (in the realm of popular music) would record a song like this?For a man unconcerned with being cool Towelie he had an acute predeliction towards trend following y'know.Ray Charles you say? I shall have to have a listen Also, song for the deaf? Sounds like something you come up with over a heavy skunk smoking session Edited July 25, 2015 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 For a man unconcerned with being cool Towelie he had an acute predeliction towards trend following y'know.Depends how you look at it. In his prime, he was setting trends, not following them. And then some of the songs in his catalogue, such as this one (and I can name dozens of others) really sound as if he has no interest in following trends. Put it this way, you would never get Madonna recording something this passe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) For a man unconcerned with being cool Towelie he had an acute predeliction towards trend following y'know.Depends how you look at it. In his prime, he was setting trends, not following them. And then some of the songs in his catalogue, such as this one (and I can name dozens of others) really sound as if he has no interest in following trends. Put it this way, you would never get Madonna recording something this passe.He was kinda like souley when soul was the thing, discoey when disco was the thing, then new jack swing when that was the thing, then when hip hop was the pop of the day he's getting with Murder Inc (crap choice by the way ).I suppose the flipside to that is each and everyone of those musical movements kinda held him up as a fuckin' God to begin with anyway (lesser so hip hop but his shadow still loomed somewhat large there) so, yeah, if they can be influenced by him then he's kinda one of the godfathers of their thing to begin with so I suppose it's kinda reciprocal..sort of. Edited July 25, 2015 by Len B'stard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I kinda like it. It's like a musical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I kinda like it. It's like a musical.Tommy can ya hear me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I kinda like it. It's like a musical.Tommy can ya hear me? Musicals are fine. Rock operas, imo, are not.I kind of feel like Chinese Democracy is a big shitty rock opera. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 For a man unconcerned with being cool Towelie he had an acute predeliction towards trend following y'know.Depends how you look at it. In his prime, he was setting trends, not following them. And then some of the songs in his catalogue, such as this one (and I can name dozens of others) really sound as if he has no interest in following trends. Put it this way, you would never get Madonna recording something this passe.He was kinda like souley when soul was the thing, discoey when disco was the thing, then new jack swing when that was the thing, then when hip hop was the pop of the day he's getting with Murder Inc (crap choice by the way ).I suppose the flipside to that is each and everyone of those musical movements kinda held him up as a fuckin' God to begin with anyway (lesser so hip hop but his shadow still loomed somewhat large there) so, yeah, if they can be influenced by him then he's kinda one of the godfathers of their thing to begin with so I suppose it's kinda reciprocal..sort of.I think a lot of that stuff was pushed on him by his label to be honest. I see a song like this as far more legitimately Michael Jackson - the man who listened almost exclusively to classical music and famously said in all sincerity that his favourite song of all time was My Favourite Things from The Sound of Music. He was never afraid to be himself, as deathly "uncool" as it was at times.Yeah, he did work with the trendy producers of the day as well, but even on those albums, he'd sneak on Disney-esque showtunes, choral choirs and classically-inspired murder ballads. His 90s work was a lot more eclectic than he is given credit for, especially when you consider his contemporaries of the day (Madonna, Prince, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston etc) were busy chasing R&B trends, an album like HIStory is a million miles away from what his peers were doing back in 1995. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 famously said in all sincerity that his favourite song of all time was My Favourite Things from The Sound of Music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Mariah Carey has better knockers tho famously said in all sincerity that his favourite song of all time was My Favourite Things from The Sound of Music Coltrane. That is all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 Mariah Carey has better knockers tho famously said in all sincerity that his favourite song of all time was My Favourite Things from The Sound of Music Coltrane. That is all.Is that the wonderful Dennis Pennis in your avatar, Len? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 And his quote as my sig too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 I used to love him. Keeping it on topic, I don't usually tolerate MJ pedo jokes, but I'll make an except for Dennis: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I was gonna point that out actually! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I kinda like it. It's like a musical.My thoughts too. Not bad, but gimme more "Behind The Mask" type songs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 For a man unconcerned with being cool Towelie he had an acute predeliction towards trend following y'know.Depends how you look at it. In his prime, he was setting trends, not following them. And then some of the songs in his catalogue, such as this one (and I can name dozens of others) really sound as if he has no interest in following trends. Put it this way, you would never get Madonna recording something this passe.He was kinda like souley when soul was the thing, discoey when disco was the thing, then new jack swing when that was the thing, then when hip hop was the pop of the day he's getting with Murder Inc (crap choice by the way ).I suppose the flipside to that is each and everyone of those musical movements kinda held him up as a fuckin' God to begin with anyway (lesser so hip hop but his shadow still loomed somewhat large there) so, yeah, if they can be influenced by him then he's kinda one of the godfathers of their thing to begin with so I suppose it's kinda reciprocal..sort of.I think a lot of that stuff was pushed on him by his label to be honest. I see a song like this as far more legitimately Michael Jackson - the man who listened almost exclusively to classical music and famously said in all sincerity that his favourite song of all time was My Favourite Things from The Sound of Music. He was never afraid to be himself, as deathly "uncool" as it was at times.Yeah, he did work with the trendy producers of the day as well, but even on those albums, he'd sneak on Disney-esque showtunes, choral choirs and classically-inspired murder ballads. His 90s work was a lot more eclectic than he is given credit for, especially when you consider his contemporaries of the day (Madonna, Prince, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston etc) were busy chasing R&B trends, an album like HIStory is a million miles away from what his peers were doing back in 1995.If you read Walter Yetnikoff and Tommy Mottola's books, they wrote a lot about working with Michael Jackson, but I think the timing of Mottola running Sony and Michael's career starting to go into decline didn't help.A lot of the crowd frenzy they've used in some of the footage was staged. Funny thing - he came to San Diego a lot and somehow the paparazzi never bothered him. Debbie lived there, Deepak's office was based out of there (George Harrison and Michael Jackson did hang out), Janet lived up in Rancho Santa Fe, one of his kids was born there, but he had no problem being left alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 If you desire great 'rare' Jackson songs, download a song called ''Get the Hots''. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted July 25, 2015 Author Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Fake.lolThis song has been known about in MJ fan circles for ten years before he died. It's legit. Edited July 25, 2015 by Towelie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I don't know if I got the right video link... Are we talking about Stronger? 'Cause I liked it. It's simple but it's cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 I don't know if I got the right video link... Are we talking about Stronger? 'Cause I liked it. It's simple but it's cool.Oh God, that's not what I posted. Sony are obviously taking the song down. And Stronger is fake as fuck.Try this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 It's decent. Nice orchestration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 For a man unconcerned with being cool Towelie he had an acute predeliction towards trend following y'know.Depends how you look at it. In his prime, he was setting trends, not following them. And then some of the songs in his catalogue, such as this one (and I can name dozens of others) really sound as if he has no interest in following trends. Put it this way, you would never get Madonna recording something this passe.He was kinda like souley when soul was the thing, discoey when disco was the thing, then new jack swing when that was the thing, then when hip hop was the pop of the day he's getting with Murder Inc (crap choice by the way ).I suppose the flipside to that is each and everyone of those musical movements kinda held him up as a fuckin' God to begin with anyway (lesser so hip hop but his shadow still loomed somewhat large there) so, yeah, if they can be influenced by him then he's kinda one of the godfathers of their thing to begin with so I suppose it's kinda reciprocal..sort of.I think a lot of that stuff was pushed on him by his label to be honest. I see a song like this as far more legitimately Michael Jackson - the man who listened almost exclusively to classical music and famously said in all sincerity that his favourite song of all time was My Favourite Things from The Sound of Music. He was never afraid to be himself, as deathly "uncool" as it was at times.Yeah, he did work with the trendy producers of the day as well, but even on those albums, he'd sneak on Disney-esque showtunes, choral choirs and classically-inspired murder ballads. His 90s work was a lot more eclectic than he is given credit for, especially when you consider his contemporaries of the day (Madonna, Prince, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston etc) were busy chasing R&B trends, an album like HIStory is a million miles away from what his peers were doing back in 1995.If you read Walter Yetnikoff and Tommy Mottola's books, they wrote a lot about working with Michael Jackson, but I think the timing of Mottola running Sony and Michael's career starting to go into decline didn't help.A lot of the crowd frenzy they've used in some of the footage was staged. Funny thing - he came to San Diego a lot and somehow the paparazzi never bothered him. Debbie lived there, Deepak's office was based out of there (George Harrison and Michael Jackson did hang out), Janet lived up in Rancho Santa Fe, one of his kids was born there, but he had no problem being left alone. Howling at the Moon is fucking hilarious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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