Cold Jen Time Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Ok, can I just be honest and say I'm having major Slash issues right now? I know I'm a newbie here and so this may have already been discussed. But does anyone feel like Slash didn't want Izzy to return to GNR? Because of what he's said in the past about not wanting a second guitarist? I feel like Slash likes the spotlight and with Fortus on rhythm, all eyes are on Slash. Does that make sense? Am I reaching here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Jen Time Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just having major Slash trust issues. And the fact that I have trust issues with someone I don't know personally is sad and weird. But that's my relationship with GNR. Sad....and weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Cold Jen Time said: Ok, can I just be honest and say I'm having major Slash issues right now? I know I'm a newbie here and so this may have already been discussed. But does anyone feel like Slash didn't want Izzy to return to GNR? Because of what he's said in the past about not wanting a second guitarist? I feel like Slash likes the spotlight and with Fortus on rhythm, all eyes are on Slash. Does that make sense? Am I reaching here? Not reaching at all. Other than the 'P' word - can't bring myself to say it anymore - issue I think with Slash it's a combination of Izzy taking the spotlight away and Slash getting less money if Izzy's there. Edited March 17, 2017 by Kris_1989 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Cold Jen Time said: Ok, can I just be honest and say I'm having major Slash issues right now? I know I'm a newbie here and so this may have already been discussed. But does anyone feel like Slash didn't want Izzy to return to GNR? Because of what he's said in the past about not wanting a second guitarist? I feel like Slash likes the spotlight and with Fortus on rhythm, all eyes are on Slash. Does that make sense? Am I reaching here? Well You know, Slash want to be alone with Axl, if Izzy return, The Indiana package will be back N' cant be separated again Edited March 17, 2017 by SerenityScorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkenchantress Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 6 hours ago, int8 said: I'm waiting for quotes... Quote He changed the lines in Cuttin' The Rug from 'I'm feelin' lucky...' into 'I'm feelin horny, cause I've got the will'. Quote Izzy changed a little bit the lyrics of another classic tune Rockin' Daddy, singing 'They call me a rocker I can fuck you all night long...'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Those quotes. Kinda sweet, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BorderlineCrazy Posted March 17, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Cold Jen Time said: Ok, can I just be honest and say I'm having major Slash issues right now? I know I'm a newbie here and so this may have already been discussed. But does anyone feel like Slash didn't want Izzy to return to GNR? Because of what he's said in the past about not wanting a second guitarist? I feel like Slash likes the spotlight and with Fortus on rhythm, all eyes are on Slash. Does that make sense? Am I reaching here? Honestly, I don't think so. Slash said some stupid things soon after Izzy quit but then had nothing but good things to say for many years. If Slash had a problem with Izzy or wanted all the spotlight for him, he wouldn't have let Izzy be involved with VR at all and wouldn't have insisted on getting a frontman. And if he really hated Izzy's playing and shit like that, he wouldn't have called him to play on his solo record. Doesn't matter how much Slash might love the spotlight because no one can take it away from him, not even Axl Rose. If Izzy was around, he would be getting attention too but not to a point that could bother Slash, let's not forget that sadly, for most people Slash and Axl are GNR and who else is there is irrelevant. It sucks but it is what it is. I might be completely wrong but I believe Slash was the one who really wanted the original 5 to be involved. Duff had already played with Axl's band and he seemed to be on board for whatever Axl wanted to do. I think Slash was the one who got Steven involved and also think he wished Izzy a happy birthday on twitter last year because he wanted to be nice and show Izzy he/they care about him (they were probably still in negotiations, Izzy had only stated he wasn't gonna be part of the april shows). But even if I'm right, it seems like he didn't really fight hard enough (or wasn't willing to lose money) for them and that sucks. Anyway, I'm listening to Dust N' Bones and it rocks. I missy Izzy Now I'm off to bed because it's fuckin' 5 am here. What the fuck am I doing here right now!? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkenchantress Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 To be honest, I'm way more disappointed in Ned Flanders. Not only he collaborated to throw Izzy ( my mentor, my blablabla...) under the bus but he also is trying ( and failing hard) to copy his style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int8 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 49 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said: Anyway, I'm listening to Dust N' Bones and it rocks. I missy Izzy I've been watching Hammerhead video... made me miss that pretty face even more @Darkenchantress, haha, the man was not an angel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 48 minutes ago, Darkenchantress said: To be honest, I'm way more disappointed in Ned Flanders. Not only he collaborated to throw Izzy ( my mentor, my blablabla...) under the bus but he also is trying ( and failing hard) to copy his style. Since when Duff become Ned Flanders?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 7 hours ago, Cold Jen Time said: Ok, can I just be honest and say I'm having major Slash issues right now? I know I'm a newbie here and so this may have already been discussed. But does anyone feel like Slash didn't want Izzy to return to GNR? Because of what he's said in the past about not wanting a second guitarist? I feel like Slash likes the spotlight and with Fortus on rhythm, all eyes are on Slash. Does that make sense? Am I reaching here? We know they wanted Izzy for this reunion. BUT not as full time member because in their crazy minds he was too expensive Slash doesn't really have too much of a say. Axl is very much in charge. The cheaper and more irrelevant the replacement is. The more money he gets. Neither Izzy wanted to be justs guest/hired guy in the band he founded. The band he helped to become one of the biggests bands in the world. All eyes will always be on Slash. He is the lead guitar. And that was also the case when Izzy was still a member. I wish things change in the near future. But after reading Adler's inteviews, Myles Kennedy talking about a new Conspirators tour and album next year and the AXL/DC rumors. Either GN'R is done or it will be just a side project to them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkenchantress Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 hours ago, SerenityScorp said: Since when Duff become Ned Flanders?! It did just flow naturally. It suits him perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 Love this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said: Love this one I found this remark under Coke'n on Youtube and it is so true for me: "Since I have been discovering his solo stuff it turns out I am not even a GnR fan. I just loved Izzy this whole time." (I still love GnR stuff though but not after UYI) Edited March 17, 2017 by Tori72 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int8 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Guys, I've decided to make a thread, join if you want Edited March 17, 2017 by int8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Darkenchantress said: It did just flow naturally. It suits him perfectly. Didn't think the Ned thing was gonna stick. I'm diddly proud (?) 2 hours ago, SerenityScorp said: Love this one One of my faves too, love it!! And here's the song he wrote for the "big three" (because our avocado farmer can see the future ) YOU WANT A LOT BUT YOU DON'T NEED IT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tori72 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, int8 said: Guys, I've decided to make a thread, please join if you want Just seen it. May I ask why you wanna have the least favourite? I'm famously thick and don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
int8 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Tori72 said: Just seen it. May I ask why you wanna have the least favourite? I'm famously thick and don't get it. Mainly to sort them in some way. I know it's hard to chose one. Above all, it's an excuse to give those records some attention 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkenchantress Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Oooh, i'm off to Madrid this weekend so I'll catch up with the new thread when I'm back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Jen Time Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 11 hours ago, Darkenchantress said: To be honest, I'm way more disappointed in Ned Flanders. Not only he collaborated to throw Izzy ( my mentor, my blablabla...) under the bus but he also is trying ( and failing hard) to copy his style. I'm so fucking disappointed in all three of them. But since Axl has been disappointing me for roughly 25 years, I'm kinda numb to him now. Slash and Duff not fighting hard enough for Izzy - if that is the case, which it seems it may be - really f'n stings. Sorry to rehash drama. I go in and out of being mad about this whole situation. I think I'm done for now. I'm sure I'll get pissed all over again in a month or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Cold Jen Time said: I'm so fucking disappointed in all three of them. But since Axl has been disappointing me for roughly 25 years, I'm kinda numb to him now. Slash and Duff not fighting hard enough for Izzy - if that is the case, which it seems it may be - really f'n stings. Sorry to rehash drama. I go in and out of being mad about this whole situation. I think I'm done for now. I'm sure I'll get pissed all over again in a month or so. Don't worry, this whole subject keeps coming back one way or another. There's people currently looking for whatever reason they can find to talk shit about Steven and justify his exclusion and the same thing happens with Izzy over and over again (he's lazy, doesn't like touring, once quit the band and the others did too but that's not convenient to mention). We won't be able to escape this drama until the band is finally over (or the miracle actually happens). At least it's nice to see people disappointed about some band members being left out instead of acting like Slash and Axl are the only thing that matters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archtop Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 19 hours ago, Cold Jen Time said: Ok, can I just be honest and say I'm having major Slash issues right now? I know I'm a newbie here and so this may have already been discussed. But does anyone feel like Slash didn't want Izzy to return to GNR? Because of what he's said in the past about not wanting a second guitarist? I feel like Slash likes the spotlight and with Fortus on rhythm, all eyes are on Slash. Does that make sense? Am I reaching here? It's Duff issues I'm having, I always saw Izzy and Duff as tight. Duff seemed to have such respect, said he learnt a lot from Izzy. Izzy asked Duff to play on his solo records at a time when Duff seemed to be lost as a muscian. I have mentioned it several times before, but Duff's damn book title How to be a man, and other lies is currently so ironic it kills me. Slash I have always paid less attention too,I know his never liked the second/third guitarist scenario but I'm not sure it's a spotlight thing. He doesn't strike me as an attention seeker. I think maybe it about not wanting to many personalities pulling on a fragile situation, it was easier to cope with Slash, Axl and Duff the others are paid to agree, so less conflict. I desperately hope it's not to do with paying off Axls lifestyle, Slash's divorce and Duffs boat but I'm losing faith fast. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Jen Time Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Archtop said: It's Duff issues I'm having, I always saw Izzy and Duff as tight. Duff seemed to have such respect, said he learnt a lot from Izzy. Izzy asked Duff to play on his solo records at a time when Duff seemed to be lost as a muscian. I have mentioned it several times before, but Duff's damn book title How to be a man, and other lies is currently so ironic it kills me. Slash I have always paid less attention too,I know his never liked the second/third guitarist scenario but I'm not sure it's a spotlight thing. He doesn't strike me as an attention seeker. I think maybe it about not wanting to many personalities pulling on a fragile situation, it was easier to cope with Slash, Axl and Duff the others are paid to agree, so less conflict. I desperately hope it's not to do with paying off Axls lifestyle, Slash's divorce and Duffs boat but I'm losing faith fast. A lot of people have told me they don't see Slash as an attention-seeker. I dunno why I think he loves the spotlight so much. I guess maybe I've just never seen him shy away from it? Fuuuuuuuck. I dunno. They all suck. Just kidding. I love them. Dammit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderlineCrazy Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 41 minutes ago, Archtop said: It's Duff issues I'm having, I always saw Izzy and Duff as tight. Duff seemed to have such respect, said he learnt a lot from Izzy. Izzy asked Duff to play on his solo records at a time when Duff seemed to be lost as a muscian. I have mentioned it several times before, but Duff's damn book title How to be a man, and other lies is currently so ironic it kills me. Slash I have always paid less attention too,I know his never liked the second/third guitarist scenario but I'm not sure it's a spotlight thing. He doesn't strike me as an attention seeker. I think maybe it about not wanting to many personalities pulling on a fragile situation, it was easier to cope with Slash, Axl and Duff the others are paid to agree, so less conflict. I desperately hope it's not to do with paying off Axls lifestyle, Slash's divorce and Duffs boat but I'm losing faith fast. I think the books were actually called "It's So Easy and Other Lies" and "How To Be A Man and Other Illusions" I don't think Slash is against having a second guitarist. He's always had one in both Snakepit incarnations and in SMKC as well. It's probable that it would have been more difficult to do the reunion with Izzy and Steven. Apparently, Izzy wanted to do it the right way, which includes making new music. Maybe that's not what Axl wants and Slash and Duff just decided to accept his terms 'cause they wanted to be back. Whatever the reason may be, it sucks. Izzy and Steven should be there, this band belong to the five looney tunes, not to one or a few of them 36 minutes ago, Cold Jen Time said: A lot of people have told me they don't see Slash as an attention-seeker. I dunno why I think he loves the spotlight so much. I guess maybe I've just never seen him shy away from it? Fuuuuuuuck. I dunno. They all suck. Just kidding. I love them. Dammit. LOL, you're so conflicted right now IMO, Slash only cares for attention when he is on stage. He loves the interaction with the crowd, he lives for it. Off the stage, he's a normal dude and the less attention he gets, the better. That's how I see it anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archtop Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 45 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said: I think the books were actually called "It's So Easy and Other Lies" and "How To Be A Man and Other Illusions" ha my book title was better! he is defiantly under some illusion if he reckons his acting like a descent man right now. In anticipation of Izzy's album 118 Deg coming up next in the ranking thread please somebody point me to where I can get the entire album, this one has always escaped me and I don't have all the songs @downliner is it available anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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