SoulMonster Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Yes you do. (See what I did there?) Did you see what I did? Here's a tip, whenever I go crazy with exclamation marks it means I am joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, SoulMonster said: Did you see what I did? Here's a tip, whenever I go crazy with exclamation marks it means I am joking. I thought excessive usage of exclamations was my thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I thought excessive usage of exclamations was my thing. Yes, as I implied, it means one cannot be taken seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 4 hours ago, SoulMonster said: It is not market price if it is below what the market would have paid if offered up to the market. It sounds to me you are describing a product offered up at below market price, probably because it is subsidised. And I believe the CMHA do offer homes to those who cannot or will not pay market prices, and they can do this because the subsidy is paid for indirectly through tax money in an, ironically, capitalistic society. It might not have to be fixed in the sense that it stays the same year after year, but more likely to be discounted some way resulted in a below market price. Thats a really neat guess. But is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, soon said: Thats a really neat guess. But is wrong. Why don't you explain, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 10 hours ago, Len Cnut said: SO much, perhaps even the key lessons of the life of Jesus, to me, were a specific rejection of the capitalist mode of thinking. Amen 10 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Tommy Robinson the nobody, with it he don't have to work, he don't have to do anything for a living, he's funded by supporters and backers, it's a career, it's a life for him. I know some people who are on the good side of these issues who are funded by donation for their living. They tread lightly and often give up on some earnings in order to do the right thing. But then on The Robinson side they more of an asshole they are, the more their supporters love it. Its very lopsided about how the hate mongers get to conduct themselves and still manage to live of donations. I should do a deep dive on Robinson. About time. 10 hours ago, Len Cnut said: That Laura or Lauren bird is the same too, she was all over youtube making those race/muslim baiting vids then suddenly she disappears and 'oh don't worry youtubers, I'm making movies now, documentaries etc etc...so she's got herself a nice little earner out of all this youtube bullshit? She started her public life as a cos player, ya know. Which, is so removed from her life as an agitator, I think really speaks to a 'one way or another they're gonna love me' attitude. She is a reasonably skilled debater and knows how to target the least informed and those with zero debate skills. On her recent speaking tour with some other shill he would just sit there with a strained expression every time she spoke, like "Please stop talking you moron!" vibes. Her new long form format is really exposing how vapid she is when not bullying students. And she "stepped away from YT" right when that was the trendy thing to do. She's basically Hatred Barbie. 10 hours ago, Len Cnut said: I really hate also that the notion of debate, discussion, these kinda muslim debates christian shit and such and such debates such and such shit has kinda degenerated to this playground level, you can see it in just the titles of videos 'BEN SHAPIRO EVISCERATES LIBERAL', or such and such 'DESTROYS CONSERVATIVE', its like people have taken the notion of debate from this exchange of information where two parties learn something and just turned it into this cheap WWE thing, its just pathetic and all it serves to do is expose the dishonourable motives of certain parties, shows what they're really about. Its about winning, its about the satisfaction of thinking that you've made the other person look small in comparison to your towering force of reason, its cheap and it stinks. When you are coming from that perspective you immediately devalue your own point because if your motives are not honourable how honourable can the information you present be? Yessir! Hes a well trained debater. And he debates without moderation so he uses a lot of dishonest tricks and tactics. As you've well laid out its about the win not the exchange. Makes me sad that people are duped by this dick sock. He lays out a false premise that his audience doesn't even think to verify and then, surprise surprise he's able to demonstrate his straw man. And the video names... straight out of the misogynist spaces in porn and that creepy cartoon stuff. And its not coincidence that both forms are speaking to incels. Shapiro, like Peterson, are shooting fish in a barrel with their audience. 10 hours ago, Len Cnut said: And often they're not geniuses either as it's often presented. And by that I don't mean uneducated, I mean original thought, which to me is the true yardstick of like...that other level of intellect. And people see it in a lot of people where it isn't there, people like Stephen Fry and Christopher Hitchens, both of whom are reasonably intelligent guys but it's just academia. I don't mean to run down academia cuz I think education is the most important thing in the world but again, if Stephen Fry and Christopher Hitchens are presented as the best minds of a generation then I don't have a lot of hope for that generation. And of course, they too have books to sell. Yep, this sounds very familiar as well. 10 hours ago, Len Cnut said: I think a key life skill is the ability to assess danger or dishonesty, the ability to look at someone and listen to them and discern whether or not you are being sold pink lemonade posing as love potion number 9. I agree. What do you make of it? Are more people being duped these days? Or is it all just happening more publicly? 10 hours ago, Len Cnut said: If the youtube cowboys were a little less greedy they would be able to mask their motives too but they rarely can, or do. And clearly they don't even need to, sadly. ***** Right on, I'm gonna get myself more familiar with Robbins! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Did you not want to answer my question on whether you use the term "capital" differently than how it is defined in economic theory? He does that all the time. When a question doesn't fit his narrative, he'll just ignore it. I've asked him 2-3 times about how he feels about the Nordic system....and nothing but crickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, Kasanova King said: He does that all the time. When a question doesn't fit his narrative, he'll just ignore it. I've asked him 2-3 times about how he feels about the Nordic system....and nothing but crickets. Not really though. You think that the Nordic model is a part of the conversation we were having. It had no direct connection. And after you failed to grasp anything I was saying you just ignored what I said and moved on to Nordic model. Then comes Soulie Barging into a discussion with 'read this wiki page and then save me from my confusion. I really wanna debate you but Im displaying ignorance instead.' That doesnt get me going. And then he went on to be rude as he boldly displayed ignorance and made baseless claims. Which so does Peterson so it makes perfect sense that you would be drawn to that here as well. I guess instead of flat out ignoring it I should just move on and randomly ask about the Nordic model, eh? And you saying this after I spent so much time engaging you is a real dick move. You are very confused about many things. I try and be patient. I guess I will unburden myself and call it how it is next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, soon said: Not really though. You think that the Nordic model is a part of the conversation we were having. It had no direct connection. And after you failed to grasp anything I was saying you just ignored what I said and moved on to Nordic model. Then comes Soulie Barging into a discussion with 'read this wiki page and then save me from my confusion. I really wanna debate you but Im displaying ignorance instead.' That doesnt get me going. And then he went on to be rude as he boldly displayed ignorance and made baseless claims. Which so does Peterson so it makes perfect sense that you would be drawn to that here as well. I guess instead of flat out ignoring it I should just move on and randomly ask about the Nordic model, eh? And you saying this after I spent so much time engaging you is a real dick move. You are very confused about many things. I try and be patient. I guess I will unburden myself and call it how it is next time. I've explained why Peterson's quote was a simple, tongue-in-cheek remark that makes sense...in the simple way it was intended. It was a light-hearted remark he made on Joe Rogan's podcasts months ago. It's obvious it struck a nerve with you because you have spent hours dwelling on it and dozens of posts asking about it. It's more than apparent that subconsciously, you know the quote is true, specifically because it points to people exactly like yourself. You asked about psychology...and I happen to have a degree in psychology...so that's more or less what a psychologist could tell you about your rants on the subject. And the quote basically means that most folks that "think" they are anti-capitalists, really aren't. That's all it meant. Had nothing to do with people not liking portions of capitalism, big business, etc. You have been using defense mechanisms to twist and turn the quote into something it is not....which is some long debate on how you can own an iPhone and still be an anti-capitalist. Again, how do you feel about the Nordic model? Are you scared to say that the Nordic model seems to work? Will that not fit within your "anti-capitalist" paradigm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 27 minutes ago, soon said: Then comes Soulie Barging into a discussion with 'read this wiki page and then save me from my confusion. That's not really a gracious description of it, though. When discussing I have found that it always makes for a more constructive discourse when people have a shared understanding of what terms mean. So when I asked if your definition of "capital" deviates from the one used by economics and the public in general, as described on a Wikipedia page, that was simply to allow us to discuss and share opinions without crosstalking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Just now, Kasanova King said: I've explained why Peterson's quote was a simple, tongue-in-cheek remark that makes sense...in the simple way it was intended. It was a light-hearted remark he made on Joe Rogan's podcasts months ago. It's obvious it struck a nerve with you because you have spent hours dwelling on it and dozens of posts asking about it. It's more than apparent that subconsciously, you know the quote is true, specifically because it points to people exactly like yourself. You asked about psychology...and I happen to have a degree in psychology...so that's more or less what a psychologist could tell you about your rants on the subject. And the quote basically means that most folks that "think" they are anti-capitalists, really aren't. That's all it meant. Had nothing to do with people not liking portions of capitalism, big business, etc. You have been using defense mechanisms to twist and turn the quote into something it is not....which is some long debate on how you can own an iPhone and still be an anti-capitalist. Again, how do you feel about the Nordic model? Are you scared to say that the Nordic model seems to work? Will that not fit within your "anti-capitalist" paradigm? Nothing struck a nerve. The man is a moron with regards to politics and couldnt get a rise outta me. Im sad that you are unable to engage in real world thought, but youll always have YT, Fox News and Peterson to "inform" you. Why on earth would someone think that an anti capitalist would have a poor impression of social democracy? Your poor Murican brain!! And its not like I didnt speak in favour of a well regulated market, which lends itself to a tax and spend system. U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted February 24, 2019 Author Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, soon said: Nothing struck a nerve. The man is a moron with regards to politics and couldnt get a rise outta me. Im sad that you are unable to engage in real world thought, but youll always have YT, Fox News and Peterson to "inform" you. Why on earth would someone think that an anti capitalist would have a poor impression of social democracy? Your poor Murican brain!! And its not like I didnt speak in favour of a well regulated market, which lends itself to a tax and spend system. U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A! It obviously has struck a nerve with you. You've deflected questions and have resorted to name calling, putting down Catholics (fellow Christians), making fun of Americans and the mentally challenged, all in the same thread. Jesus must be thrilled with you. Well done. Edited February 24, 2019 by Kasanova King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kasanova King said: It obviously has struck a nerve with you. You've deflected questions and have resorted to name calling, putting down Catholics (fellow Christians), making fun of Americans and the mentally challenged all in the same thread. Jesus must be thrilled with you. Well done. Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 How do I feel about the Nordic Model? Spoiler (Sorry!). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said: Every get so angry at someone you wish they got cancer of the cunt and get raped by an AIDS victim on there walk home? No .. Just me i'm an evil little bastard Were you riding the white pony towards a conniption when you had this thought? Edited February 25, 2019 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said: Every get so angry at someone you wish they got cancer of the cunt and get raped by an AIDS victim on there walk home? No .. Just me i'm an evil little bastard No, I just want to knock them out. I get over it though, I don't wish lasting ill on anybody. Except U2 and Tottenham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said: Just people being really shitty today mixed with the fact that it is Monday mixed with the Charlie come down Some days, eh? Seems like all the assholes come out at once sometimes. Water and vit C for you The other day an old timer offered me some unsolicited advice, he said "Sunshine and a smile, thats all I need!" He said that as he left the Beer Store with a 24 pack. Edited February 25, 2019 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, lukepowell1988 said: Just people being really shitty today mixed with the fact that it is Monday mixed with the Charlie come down I fuckin' hate Charlie comedowns...never much used to bother me back in the day but last time i was fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked boi. Proper laced up, you couldn't've got me out of bed with a cattleprod that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, soon said: The other day an old timer offered me some unsolicited advice, he said "Sunshine and a smile, thats all I need!" He said that as he left the Beer Store with a 24 pack. Reminds me of Da Mayor from Do The Right Thing, ever see that movie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Reminds me of Da Mayor from Do The Right Thing, ever see that movie? I havent. But funny you should say because the radio was talking about it earlier - I think its a Spike Lee Joint? Whats it about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, soon said: I havent. But funny you should say because the radio was talking about it earlier - I think its a Spike Lee Joint? Whats it about? You really really really REALLY need to watch it. Its about a sunny in Bedford Stuyvesant Brooklyn where racial tensions build one day, I won't tell you no more cuz it'll fuck it up but you REALLY need to get on it, I PROMISE you you'll like it, from what little I know of you it'll really speak to you, you need to get on it ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: You really really really REALLY need to watch it. Its about a sunny in Bedford Stuyvesant Brooklyn where racial tensions build one day, I won't tell you no more cuz it'll fuck it up but you REALLY need to get on it, I PROMISE you you'll like it, from what little I know of you it'll really speak to you, you need to get on it ASAP. Cool man, thanks for the tip. I will get right to it. Im excited! Come to think of it, I don't think Ive seen any of his movies. And Bed Stuy just happens to be the neighbourhood in NYC that Im most familiar with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Quote Catholic Church Brings In New Perspective On Solving Abuse Scandal With Appointment Of Toddler Bishop VATICAN CITY—Hoping to gain new insights into the church’s sexual abuse problem by directly empowering those most likely to become its victims, Pope Francis announced Tuesday that he had elevated a 2-year-old boy to the position of bishop. “We’re confident Bishop Timmy can help us make real, systemic progress in addressing this issue,” the pope said following the toddler’s ordination mass, during which the new bishop drank from a chalice of consecrated Juicy Juice and was given liturgical vestments that included both a white linen snap-bottom onesie and a too-large mitre that kept slipping down his forehead. “For years, we’ve ignored the needs of these poor children, and now it’s time to give them a real voice within the clergy. His Excellency Timmy, who can speak at least 50 words and reproduce the sounds made by many of God’s creatures, will be that voice. I’m pleased to report several older clergymen have already volunteered to provide our youngest-ever bishop with one-on-one attention to ensure he is fully prepared for the role.” At press time, the new bishop was reportedly turning heads at the Vatican with his controversial decision to chew on a nearby crucifix. Source: https://www.theonion.com/catholic-church-brings-in-new-perspective-on-solving-ab-1832905257 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Quote Timmy, who can speak at least 50 words and reproduce the sounds made by many of God’s creatures, will be that voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: That made me laugh, too. It is a weird little article, shifting from aaaaww cute to urk very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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