9/11 Inside Job?

[ManetsBR]

Well, with the recent Boston Incident, that discussion was brought up again. There are discussions of the Marathon Explosions also being a false flag attack, and although I've been reading a lot about it and the Craft guys, the naked Tamerlan, the backpacks issues, the bomb simulation etc, I think it's too soon - on terms of what is out there and what I've read so far - for me to come here and say that I believe that the Boston explosions were an inside job. There are, although, evidences - strong evidences. But there's already a Boston thread, I wanna talk about on this topic about the possibility of September 11 being an inside job.

What do you think? In case you wanna know more about it, there are some good documentaries like the second part [the world is a stage] of the first Zeitgeist, and Loose Change and some great websites like the 9/11 Truth org.

Edited April 24, 2013 by ManetsBR

[Forsaken]

Held back from the conspiracy talk about the Boston bombings, don't wanna dig too deep into that just yet. But it is definitely a possibility.

9/11 though.... just too much doesn't add there, but that's for another discussion.

[Randy Lahey]

Check out a book called The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11. It's much more interesting than all the conspiracy nonsense.

[izzygirl]

I've seen a couple of documentaries about it and, damnit, it made sense. There were experts (engineers and others) explaining the explosions and how the buildings fell down and, well, it could be.

[Damn_Smooth]

Held back from the conspiracy talk about the Boston bombings, don't wanna dig too deep into that just yet. But it is definitely a possibility.

9/11 though.... just too much doesn't add there, but that's for another discussion.

Actually, that's for this discussion.

[Carne_asaDA]

Zeitgeist is a great documentary. Just watched the 1st one on Netflix. The 2 sequels are on there too.

[Dazey]

Zeitgeist is a great documentary.

It would be better if it wasn't cobblers.

[Rustycage]

PNAC

[Lithium]

inb4 ratbrain

[Bansidhe]

Hiya David Icke, hiya pal!

[PappyTron]

I wasn't aware that there was much of a conspiracy surrounding the Boston bombings going around. Naked Tamerlane? WTF?

[Axl_morris]

Even if it was staged they still killed a police officer, through explosives out of a car and one of them hid away for 24 hours. Not the actions of innocent men.

Re 9/11 I believe the accusations of loose change are debunked on some websites.

[Forsaken]

Held back from the conspiracy talk about the Boston bombings, don't wanna dig too deep into that just yet. But it is definitely a possibility.

9/11 though.... just too much doesn't add there, but that's for another discussion.

Actually, that's for this discussion.

You are indeed correct, I am in robot mode right now. Fuck me.

[ManetsBR]

Zeitgeist is a great documentary. Just watched the 1st one on Netflix. The 2 sequels are on there too.

Zeitgeist is very good, but pay attention to the first part, the one about religion. Not everything they say there is true. Some parts are, some are not.

Even if it was staged they still killed a police officer, through explosives out of a car and one of them hid away for 24 hours. Not the actions of innocent men.

Re 9/11 I believe the accusations of loose change are debunked on some websites.

Yes, I've read those as well. There's always going to be strong evidences from both "sides."

Thing is, if it was really a terrorist attack, there shouldn't be any evidence indicating inside job. But there are tons.

Camon guys, I wanna know your opinions.

I wasn't aware that there was much of a conspiracy surrounding the Boston bombings going around. Naked Tamerlane? WTF?

A very quick resume:

http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU

Edited April 24, 2013 by ManetsBR

[PappyTron]

Interesting about Craft International and the naked suspect. Thanks for the link (even though I still don't buy it).

[Damn_Smooth]

Held back from the conspiracy talk about the Boston bombings, don't wanna dig too deep into that just yet. But it is definitely a possibility.

9/11 though.... just too much doesn't add there, but that's for another discussion.

Actually, that's for this discussion.

You are indeed correct, I am in robot mode right now. Fuck me.

Happens to the best of us.

[ManetsBR]

Interesting about Craft International and the naked suspect. Thanks for the link (even though I still don't buy it).

As I said before, that was a very quick resume. In case you have the interest - and the time - here is a massive compilation: http://humansarefree.com/2013/04/the-boston-bombing-is-inside-job.html

[Deepest Shame]

Even if it was staged they still killed a police officer, through explosives out of a car and one of them hid away for 24 hours. Not the actions of innocent men.

I'm not fully convinced of either side's argument but there's not really any proof that THEY did those. People are only going off what the government and media are telling them. If you were being set-up by the government, you'd sure as hell run too. There'd be no other way out of it bar death.

[AxlisOld]

People that think 9/11 was a conspiracy are stupid. I love that in documentaries the people that believe are batshit crazy, or some 18 yeard old kid that they shoot dramatic footage of looking at youtube in the dark.

[AxlisOld]

Oh...snap...

[ManetsBR]

People that think 9/11 was a conspiracy are stupid. I love that in documentaries the people that believe are batshit crazy, or some 18 yeard old kid that they shoot dramatic footage of looking at youtube in the dark.

Oh, so the engineers, architects, historians and other experts from all kind of areas in the documentaries, including one of the WTC engineers, who, in his own words said "The WTC were built to withstand a major airplane hit" are also 18 year old kids, I suppose.

I also suppose it's absolutely normal for a tower to freefall like in a demoliton from out a small fire on one of the floors, without even being hit by an airplane. I'm not talking about the Twin Towers, I'm talking about WTC 7. In case you didn't know, there was a third building who fell, but no plane ever hit that.

There's a website of an association of engineers and archictects who stand for the Inside Job theory, I'm gonna find it and post it here right now. On one of their pages there are compilations of buildings who burned for hours, days and WEEKS and didn't collapse. And I'm talking about regular buildings, made by average engineers, not a major architectural feat like the WTC, made by the best of the best.

Edit: There you are: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Edited April 24, 2013 by ManetsBR

[ManetsBR]

WTC Building #7, a 47-story high-rise not hit by an airplane, exhibited all the characteristics of classic controlled demolition with explosives:

1. Rapid onset of collapse
2. Sounds of explosions at ground floor – a second before the building's destruction
3. Symmetrical "structural failure" – through the path of greatest resistance –
4. Imploded, collapsing completely, and landed in its own footprint
5. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds
6. from the top European controlled demolition professional
7. Foreknowledge of "collapse" by media, NYPD, FDNY

In the aftermath of WTC7's destruction, strong evidence of demolition using incendiary devices was discovered:

1. FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
2. Several tons of molten metal reported by numerous highly qualified witnesses
3. Chemical signature of the incendiary thermite found in solidified molten metal, and dust samples

WTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire:

1. Slow onset with large visible deformations
2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never collapse

As seen in this revealing photo, the Twin Towers' destruction exhibited all of the characteristics of destruction by explosives:

1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution
3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction
4. Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes
5. Multi-ton steel sections
6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking
7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds
8. 1200-foot-diameter debris field: no "pancaked" floors found
9. Isolated explosive ejections 20–40 stories below demolition front
10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame
11. Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises
12. Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples
13. Evidence of explosives found in dust samples

And exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire:

1. Slow onset with large visible deformations
2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, intact, from the point of plane impact, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer-lasting fires have never collapsed

This is their COMPLETE EVIDENCE PAGE and their FAQ.

Edited April 24, 2013 by ManetsBR

[Bansidhe]

[The Linguini Occurrence]

People that think 9/11 was a conspiracy are stupid. I love that in documentaries the people that believe are batshit crazy, or some 18 yeard old kid that they shoot dramatic footage of looking at youtube in the dark.

It's more a deep hatred of the US Government than stupidity. Nobody is that stupid.

[ManetsBR]

I thought some of you could add something to this discussion. I was wrong.