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21 hours ago, Jane M. said:
21 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Yes, I know this quote and I agree. But there are people who have the impression that Axl was some sort of puritan in regards to drugs. I think the reasons Axl didn't become addicted were 1) that as he says, drugs, especially heroin, didn't "work" for him as it did for other people and they made him feel worse (probably due to his mental issues) and 2) despite being suicidal, he has had a strong instinct for survival and he sensed that if drugs by themselves could destroy him, the combination of them with his mental situation would be lethal; and this is why Axl survived (fortunately) and Kurt Cobain didn't.

This.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to believe that considering how much Axl has talked about doing drugs and his various drug-related experiences. But compared to the other guys in the band I guess he qualifies as some kind of puritan. Steven Adler will make anyone looke like a saint in comparison. Not to mention the guy who drank so much his pancreas exploded and the guy who already died multiple times and has a pace maker now.

2 hours ago, killuridols said:

:rofl-lol: :rofl-lol: :rofl-lol:

You have a great ability to tell Axl stories and turn them into comedy or something. I can't stop ROTFLMAO while reading this!!

Thanks, I guess :lol: Glad someone appreciates the messed-up ways in which my brain works lol.

5 hours ago, killuridols said:

That's the trick "have used", "have tried". It is all past tense. Or just a moment in life and never again.

But sometimes it's like people want to make it look, or does Axl want to make it look? like he could get in and out of drugs constantly without catching a habit and that's what I'm calling bullshit. 

You can't do that. There's no way to trick the addictive component of those things. So the only way to not become an addict is to not use drugs. It's not rocket science.

That's not true. It all depends on the frequency and the amount of drugs you're doing. You can definitely "get in and out of drugs" if you're careful and don't over-do it. I did my fair share of drugs when I was a kid and never developed any kind of habit. There are plenty of people like that. As long as you've got a reasonable amount of will power and don't do it too frequently, you're gonna be fine (unless you've got a particularly addictive personality or something maybe).

2 hours ago, Andy14 said:

Holy sh*t, I read "cuddling up his foot:facepalm::rofl-lol:

Wasn't surprised though :ph34r:

Dear god, the mental images, why are you doing this to me? :scared:

Besides, the only guy who gets to cuddle any of Axl's body parts is Slash, or so this thread taught me

19 hours ago, Blackstar said:

I browsed through the whole Baz book. The GnR/Axl related stories are a very small part of it; and it's expected, as it's Baz's autobiography and not a book on Axl.

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Apart from the known stories I mentioned, there is a -not nice- story about an incident with Baz, a girl, and the leader of a band Skid Row toured with. The unnamed band leader is likely Axl, because the story is in the part where Baz talks about the tour where Skid Row opened for GnR.

I won't post anything else from this book, although I don't think I spoiled it for anyone who may be interested in reading it not just for the Axl stories

Is it the story about Axl pushing some girl down the stairs that Niven and Adler told?

 

 

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4 hours ago, Jane M. said:

That video gives me anxiety. I think about being stuck in a crowd like that and feel like dying. 

Yeah me too. Man Axl didn't look like the man we have now. I mean he looked good appearance wise, but he wouldn't even move. Sucks!

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28 minutes ago, Frey said:

You'd have to be pretty stupid to believe that considering how much Axl has talked about doing drugs and his various drug-related experiences. But compared to the other guys in the band I guess he qualifies as some kind of puritan. Steven Adler will make anyone looke like a saint in comparison. Not to mention the guy who drank so much his pancreas exploded and the guy who already died multiple times and has a pace maker now.

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That's not true. It all depends on the frequency and the amount of drugs you're doing. You can definitely "get in and out of drugs" if you're careful and don't over-do it. I did my fair share of drugs when I was a kid and never developed any kind of habit. There are plenty of people like that. As long as you've got a reasonable amount of will power and don't do it too frequently, you're gonna be fine (unless you've got a particularly addictive personality or something maybe).

Agreed with all of this.

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Is it the story about Axl pushing some girl down the stairs that Niven and Adler told?

No, it's a backstage story from when Skid Row toured with another band. Apart from their tour with GnR, Skid Row had toured (as openers or headliners) with Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, Aerosmith, Pantera and Soundgarden.

 

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27 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Yes, the ticket price is really ridiculous, but that's what I read earlier today: "No wonder you have to pay extra money, you're going to see the ACDC singer..." 

I am secretly wondering to myself if these two London shows will live up to the awesome awesome AXL/DC :ph34r:

I am a traitor! :lol:

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6 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Agreed with all of this.

No, it's a backstage story from when Skid Row toured with another band. Apart from their tour with GnR, Skid Row had toured (as openers or headliners) with Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, Aerosmith, Pantera and Soundgarden.

 

What does he say? 

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5 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Agreed with all of this.

No, it's a backstage story of a mistreatment of a girl from when Skid Row toured with another band. Apart from their tour with GnR, Skid Row had toured (as openers or headliners) with Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, Aerosmith, Pantera and Soundgarden.

Well, when it comes to mistreating girls, I'd say Aerosmith and especially Motley Crue are likely suspects as well.

Can you post that part of the book too?

 

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4 minutes ago, Frey said:

Well, when it comes to mistreating girls, I'd say Aerosmith and especially Motley Crue are likely suspects as well.

Can you post that part of the book too?

 

Very much Pantera too. 

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@Frey, @MillionsOfSpiders
 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Backstage at one show, our guitar player Dave Sabo and myself decided it would be a good idea to drop some acid. Now, in the late ’80s and early ’90s, this was not a usual occurrence. I never ever saw Dave, Rachel, or Scotti even touch coke. So when Dave and I decided to do some acid, it was a very unique circumstance. And a very unique situation in which we soon found ourselves.

The party continued into the other band’s dressing room. I remember being very, very high and laughing a lot. All of a sudden a girl came into the room in high stiletto heels. I don’t remember who, but somebody said the immortal line: “Let’s wrap her in duct tape!”

It sounded like a good idea at the time.

One of the road crew members proceeded to procure a roll of silver duct tape and a roll of black duct tape. Two substances that are never far from reach in the midst of any rock ’n’ roll concert tour. Duct tape has many uses. We were just about to discover how versatile duct tape can really be.

We proceeded to apply the duct tape.

We kept on partying, laughing, drinking, smoking, snorting, doing whatever the fuck we wanted to. We were rock stars playing stadiums with a girl wrapped in duct tape teetering around in stiletto-heeled boots with her naked ass and tits in our face. As we enjoyed exchanging regalia of the tour, and the night’s show.

Somehow, we moved the party from the backstage greeting area into the shower stalls themselves. Well, some of us did. Actually, it was me and the leader of the other band, the girl wrapped in duct tape, and some other guys standing around watching what was about to unfold.

Suddenly we tumbled down into the middle of the shower stall. I was on the bottom, on my back, with the girl on her front lying on top of me. Grinding and writhing around in the shower stall. All of a sudden the leader of the other band got on top of her. She was in the middle of us. The guy from the other band’s face turned flush.

High on acid, seeing the walls of the shower appear to move in on the scene that was happening on the ground, with the girl wrapped in duct tape writhing on top of me with a guy from another band on top of her. It was fucking crazy.

The girl was perched back up onto her heels. Identity unknown. Not able to speak, or move. Stiletto heels remained on, throughout.

The next thing I remember is leading her back into the backstage room. Us going back to our drinking, smoking, and carousing. All of a sudden, management burst into the room and exclaimed, “What the fuck is going on in here??”

The leader of the other band exclaimed, “I know what to do!!!! Let’s shave her head!!” The room erupted into laughter.

Management said, “Absolutely not!! The party’s over, boys!!” And with that, the girl was teeter-tottered out of the room. Never to be seen again. At least she left with the hair on her own head intact.

Just barely.

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The story is in the part of the book where he talks about the tour with GnR. It took place when Skid Row were already successful, which excludes Bon Jovi. It could be Motley Crue or Aerosmith, but in the parts about the tour with them Baz says that both these bands' members were sober at the time. Imo the most likely suspect, apart from Axl (I hope it wasn't him), is someone from Pantera.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ubukitty said:

Where are you located? You never know, they might add new dates like they just did for London.

 

1 hour ago, Ubukitty said:

Where are you located? You never know, they might add new dates like they just did for London.

I'm in America in the state of Georgia. I know they sill be in Colorado, but my military duties will take up that time.

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45 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

@Frey, @MillionsOfSpiders
 

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Backstage at one show, our guitar player Dave Sabo and myself decided it would be a good idea to drop some acid. Now, in the late ’80s and early ’90s, this was not a usual occurrence. I never ever saw Dave, Rachel, or Scotti even touch coke. So when Dave and I decided to do some acid, it was a very unique circumstance. And a very unique situation in which we soon found ourselves.

The party continued into the other band’s dressing room. I remember being very, very high and laughing a lot. All of a sudden a girl came into the room in high stiletto heels. I don’t remember who, but somebody said the immortal line: “Let’s wrap her in duct tape!”

It sounded like a good idea at the time.

One of the road crew members proceeded to procure a roll of silver duct tape and a roll of black duct tape. Two substances that are never far from reach in the midst of any rock ’n’ roll concert tour. Duct tape has many uses. We were just about to discover how versatile duct tape can really be.

We proceeded to apply the duct tape.

We kept on partying, laughing, drinking, smoking, snorting, doing whatever the fuck we wanted to. We were rock stars playing stadiums with a girl wrapped in duct tape teetering around in stiletto-heeled boots with her naked ass and tits in our face. As we enjoyed exchanging regalia of the tour, and the night’s show.

Somehow, we moved the party from the backstage greeting area into the shower stalls themselves. Well, some of us did. Actually, it was me and the leader of the other band, the girl wrapped in duct tape, and some other guys standing around watching what was about to unfold.

Suddenly we tumbled down into the middle of the shower stall. I was on the bottom, on my back, with the girl on her front lying on top of me. Grinding and writhing around in the shower stall. All of a sudden the leader of the other band got on top of her. She was in the middle of us. The guy from the other band’s face turned flush.

High on acid, seeing the walls of the shower appear to move in on the scene that was happening on the ground, with the girl wrapped in duct tape writhing on top of me with a guy from another band on top of her. It was fucking crazy.

The girl was perched back up onto her heels. Identity unknown. Not able to speak, or move. Stiletto heels remained on, throughout.

The next thing I remember is leading her back into the backstage room. Us going back to our drinking, smoking, and carousing. All of a sudden, management burst into the room and exclaimed, “What the fuck is going on in here??”

The leader of the other band exclaimed, “I know what to do!!!! Let’s shave her head!!” The room erupted into laughter.

Management said, “Absolutely not!! The party’s over, boys!!” And with that, the girl was teeter-tottered out of the room. Never to be seen again. At least she left with the hair on her own head intact.

Just barely.

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The story is in the part of the book where he talks about the tour with GnR. It took place when Skid Row were already successful, which excludes Bon Jovi. It could be Motley Crue or Aerosmith, but in the parts about the tour with them Baz says that both these bands' members were sober at the time. Imo the most likely suspect, apart from Axl (I hope it wasn't him), is someone from Pantera.

 

 

It wouldn't surprise me if it were any of who we suspect. Wouldn't it put Baz's friendship with Axl in danger though, if he read it and knew it was him? Even though there's no names mentioned. 

It wouldn't surprise me though. 

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3 minutes ago, Frey said:

I'll take your word for it, I'm not very familiar with Pantera.

Thanks for sharing. I guess. Pretty awful.

I hope it was someone from Pantera too, but fuck, Axl has a history of doing awful, rape-y shit like that and the Locomotive lyrics immediately came to my mind while reading this:

So I'll say it for good measure
To all the ones like you I've known
Ya know I'd like to shave your head
And all my friends could
paint it red

Yeah, I too thought of these lyrics when I read it. Then I read the chapter about Pantera, and Baz says that Phil Anselmo of Pantera shaved Tommy Lee's head (willingly).

6 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

It wouldn't surprise if it were any of who we suspect. Wouldn't it put Baz's friendship with Axl in danger though, if he read it and knew it was him? Even though there's no names mentioned. 

It wouldn't surprise me though. 

Phil Anselmo has been a very close friend of Baz's too, so :shrugs:

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19 minutes ago, Jane M. said:

Shame on them for treating women like that. 

Assholes:fuckyou:

It'll be just one story of many with that bunch of bands in question. Disgusting. 

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3 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Yeah, I too thought of these lyrics when I read it. Then I read the chapter about Pantera, and Baz says that Phil Anselmo of Pantera shaved Tommy Lee's head (willingly).

Phil Anselmo has been a very close friend of Baz's too, so :shrugs:

So the question is which one of them has a weird fetish for shaving people's heads and/or humiliating them by doing that? :wacko:

Quickly googling Phil Anselmo gave me the impression that the guy's a giant douchebag, so yeah, going by that and what you guys said, I can totally see this story being about Anselmo too.

And while we're talking about people being disgusting, let's not forget Baz's own involvement in this and the other guys in the band's involvement (either members of Pantera or Slash, Izzy, Duff,...)

 

 

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3 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:
19 minutes ago, Jane M. said:

Shame on them for treating women like that. 

Assholes:fuckyou:

It'll be just one story of many with that bunch of bands in quetstion. Disgusting. 

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Baz says he enjoyed tying up girls, leaving them like that for hours and then having sex with them when he felt like it :facepalm:

 

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3 minutes ago, Blackstar said:
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Baz says he enjoyed tying up girls, leaving them like that for hours and then having sex with them when he felt like it :facepalm:

 

It doesn't surprise me at all. They think they're gods who can do what they want. 

@Frey Anselmo is a creep, got a friend who met him, he's a creep. 

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HOnestly don't have think it was axl. Axl and baz hung out loads but they mostly did weed together and shit like that, it was slash baz always brags about doing coke and heroin with all the time. I'd say it was a singer from another band tbh. The behaviour does match axls assholeness days but I'm pretty sure everyone always says including our very own Marc canter that axl stopped doing those kind of drugs in 1987 and just stuck to weed and booze sometimes 

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59 minutes ago, Blackstar said:
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Baz says he enjoyed tying up girls, leaving them like that for hours and then having sex with them when he felt like it :facepalm:

 

I always thought Baz was a moron, but seems he is a douchebag too.

54 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

It doesn't surprise me at all. They think they're gods who can do what they want. 

@Frey Anselmo is a creep, got a friend who met him, he's a creep. 

Yeah, I can believe that. Good thing I was never into Pantera.

 

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53 minutes ago, Frey said:

always thought Baz was a moron, but seems he is a douchebag too.

Yeah, at least he was in the past; it seems he's matured now (I mean compared to what he was :P). But he comes out as a naive, lighthearted and straight up person who wouldn't backstab his friends, and probably this is why Axl likes him; and also because Baz looks up to him and sees him like god (which is not surprising as Axl was much more refined musically while Baz's musical horizon/influences was mostly KISS and Motley Crue).

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3 hours ago, Frey said:

That's not true. It all depends on the frequency and the amount of drugs you're doing. You can definitely "get in and out of drugs" if you're careful and don't over-do it. I did my fair share of drugs when I was a kid and never developed any kind of habit. There are plenty of people like that. As long as you've got a reasonable amount of will power and don't do it too frequently, you're gonna be fine (unless you've got a particularly addictive personality or something maybe).

Lol I know lots of those people like to brag they can "control" drugs but they never stop using them, even if it's with long periods of abstinence in between.

Addiction to some drugs does not derive from having an addictive personality. Those substances have addictive components. Like people who can't stop smoking, I know so many of them, different ages, different body structure and personality, it couldn't be that all of them caught the cigarette habit because they have an addictive personality.

Being careful and will power are a lottery since you don't know how drugs are going to hit you the first time. Maybe you're lucky and you can abstain but what if you don't? 

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3 hours ago, Rocketqueen76 said:

 

I'm in America in the state of Georgia. I know they sill be in Colorado, but my military duties will take up that time.

Aww sorry to hear that but thank you so much for your service.

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4 hours ago, Frey said:

You'd have to be pretty stupid to believe that considering how much Axl has talked about doing drugs and his various drug-related experiences. But compared to the other guys in the band I guess he qualifies as some kind of puritan. Steven Adler will make anyone looke like a saint in comparison. Not to mention the guy who drank so much his pancreas exploded and the guy who already died multiple times and has a pace maker now.

Thanks, I guess :lol: Glad someone appreciates the messed-up ways in which my brain works lol.

That's not true. It all depends on the frequency and the amount of drugs you're doing. You can definitely "get in and out of drugs" if you're careful and don't over-do it. I did my fair share of drugs when I was a kid and never developed any kind of habit. There are plenty of people like that. As long as you've got a reasonable amount of will power and don't do it too frequently, you're gonna be fine (unless you've got a particularly addictive personality or something maybe).

Dear god, the mental images, why are you doing this to me? :scared:

Besides, the only guy who gets to cuddle any of Axl's body parts is Slash, or so this thread taught me

Is it the story about Axl pushing some girl down the stairs that Niven and Adler told?

 

 

Wait a minute, I'm not planning on buying the book. I really want to hear about that story.. Please, Please, Please?

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US show peeps!....are you guys finding that the 1st 15 rows on the floor behind the pit are like VIP only and running $550-$750? I am not sure if this is what everyone is seeing or just San Antonio's show? Not doing the pit (maybe next time) slowly inching closer and closer. :P  but I would like the first row right behind the pit for under $300 but not seeing it. :( help? advice? TIA girls!

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