soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Climate Change has always happened and I believe its 50% natural and 50% man-made. We can try all we want to fix it but it wont be enough Thats not what the science says. Just now, Gibsonfender2323 said: Ummmmmm the media???? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, soon said: Thats not what the science says. Explain the patterns of ice ages and warming up till about 200 years ago , the world was in mini ice age https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/last-1000-years Humans have exaggerated an already warming climate. The Industrial Revolution increased the speed of a naturally occurring warming period Data doesn't lie Edited January 9, 2020 by Gibsonfender2323 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Explain the patterns of ice ages and warming up till about 200 years ago , the world was in mini ice age https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/last-1000-years No. Because thats a juvenile argument that no serious person takes seriously. Also, just go back a few pages and read that argument getting its ass kicked. Explain why you dont believe in science (and then conversely why you are both claiming science and denying science in the same breathe ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Explain the patterns of ice ages and warming up till about 200 years ago , the world was in mini ice age https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/last-1000-years Humans have exaggerated an already warming climate. The Industrial Revolution increased the speed of a naturally occurring warming period Data doesn't lie Youre right, data doesn't lie. People like you do. Your chart supports climate science findings that we are in a human caused climate crisis Heres data. Since you believe science, this will be conclusive for you: https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/ Edited January 9, 2020 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, soon said: No. Because thats a juvenile argument that no serious person takes seriously. Also, just go back a few pages and read that argument getting its ass kicked. Explain why you dont believe in science (and then conversely why you are both claiming science and denying science in the same breathe ) This graph and that article from government-sponsored agencies show the gradual warming of this planet for 200 years before the industrial revolution and once the CO2 emmisons started rising around the late 1800s the warming cycle was increased. 2 minutes ago, soon said: Youre right, data doesn't lie. People like you do. Your chart supports climate science findings that we are in a human caused climate crisis Heres data. Since you believe science, this will be conclusive for you: https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/ The science supports the theory that the industrial revolution spearheads warming trends that were actually already occurring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, soon said: Thats not what the science says. Nope. Time Magazine put this girl as their cover person of the ye instead of people fighting for freedom and democracy in hong kong against the repressive Chinese government Edited January 9, 2020 by Gibsonfender2323 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) People like you believe that if the human race suddenly dropped off the face of the earth would stop warming and the world will end in 12 years. That can not be further from the truth and is intellectually dishonest Edited January 9, 2020 by Gibsonfender2323 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Time Magazine put this girl as their cover person of the ye instead of people fighting for freedom and democracy in hong kong against the repressive Chinese government If you dont understand that fighting climate change is fighting for freedom and democracy than I dont know what more to tell you. 14 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: The science supports the theory that the industrial revolution spearheads warming trends that were actually already occurring. https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: People like you believe that if the human race suddenly dropped off the face of the earth would stop warming and the world will end in 12 years. That can not be further from the truth and is intellectually dishonest How the fuck did you manage to screw up your sick burn so epically?!?! Read that back to yourself. You just said that people like me believe that if humans disappeared that the world will end. Bless your soul Edited January 9, 2020 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) You are going to regret all of this John Lennon stuff, Soon, when you grow up. PS Always a good time to re-post, Edited January 9, 2020 by DieselDaisy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: You are going to regret all of this John Lennon stuff, Soon, I dont get the reference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, soon said: If you dont understand that fighting climate change is fighting for freedom and democracy than I dont know what more to tell you. https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/ You do not understand that the Hong Kong citizens do not give a flying fuck about the climate and the weather being a few degrees warm because their rights are being stripped away by the fascist Chinese Government. Greta Thunberg is a media puppet being paid to travel the world and to not be in school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, Gibsonfender2323 said: Greta Thunberg is a media puppet being paid to travel the world and to not be in school. You've done absolutely nothing to demonstrate that this silly conspiracy theory is true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: You are going to regret all of this John Lennon stuff, Soon, when you grow up. PS Always a good time to re-post, I legitimately laugh so a hard when I see that. He just does not want to hear that brat lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, soon said: I dont get the reference? Anarcho-commie-loony left-hippydom. It is the sort of thing people in their late teens and early twenties support, only to grow a bit older prompting them to say to themselves, ''what an absolute knobhead I was back then''. Edited January 9, 2020 by DieselDaisy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Anarcho-commie-loony left-hippydom. It is the sort of thing people in their late teens and early twenties support, only to grow a bit older promoting them to say to themselves, ''what an absolute knobhead I was back then''. I am 21 and I am a social liberal and anti government interventionist in the economy. Fall for none of that garbage. Social Liberal and Free Markets is the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Anarcho-commie-loony left-hippydom. It is the sort of thing people in their late teens and early twenties support, only to grow a bit older promoting them to say to themselves, ''what an absolute knobhead I was back then''. Tell that to Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, David Susuki, Cornel West, Ben Burgis, Angela Davis and Prof Wolff! Meanwhile, Lennon was an abusive family man who's hypocrisy on issues of economic justice made someone really truly upset. So I dont know why on earth Lennon would be used as a touchstone when in fact Bookchin, Swain and Woodcock belong in that role?? Edited January 9, 2020 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, soon said: Tell that to Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, David Susuki, Ben Burgis and Prof Wolff! Meanwhile, Lennon was an abusive family man who's hypocrisy on issues of economic justice made someone really truly upset. So I dont know why on earth Lennon would be used as a touchstone when in fact Bookchin, Swain and Woodcock belong in that role?? You'll regret it - mark my words. Many have been there, but most have come out at the other end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just now, DieselDaisy said: You'll regret it - mark my words. Many have been there, but most have come out at the other end. So, you find Noam Chomsky to be a youthful idealist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Also science isnt a left or right issue! And if you want to say that only the left embraces science, then that just means that all sane people will lean left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, soon said: So, you find Noam Chomsky to be a youthful idealist? I do not consider anything much of Noam Chomsky, but you are displaying all the collective symptoms of: twentysomething, has a bunch of Lennon albums, reads some lefty nihilistic gibberish. Trust me, you'll wake up one morning when you are 28 or 31 and say, ''what an absolute knobber''. Edited January 9, 2020 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 It can happen in later life no doubt. And he used to be such a sensible lad, John Winston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I do not consider anything much of Noam Chomsky, but you are displaying all the collective symptoms of: twentysomething, has a bunch of Lennon albums, reads some lefty nihilistic gibberish. Trust me, you'll wake up one morning when you are 28 or 31 and say, ''what an absolute knobber''. I loathe Lennon. And the Beatles. Anarcho-communism is antithetical to nihilism. You should read Chomsky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, soon said: I loathe Lennon. And the Beatles. Then there is no saving you. 2 minutes ago, soon said: Anarcho-communism is antithetical to nihilism. Don't anarchists want to abolish the state itself? 3 minutes ago, soon said: You should read Chomsky. I'd rather drink my own urine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 You'll wake up one day, think ''what a knobhead'', stick all of your lefty tomes in a charity bag, then purchase a ''William & Kate royal marriage'' porcelain tea set. It happens to us all. In ten years' time I'll probably be listening to Cliff Richard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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