Live Like a Suicide

6 minutes ago, Millions said:

I actually like the dolphin sounds just after the solo (if that's what they are). Gives some consistency to the Illusions era, haha.

I like it too, but it's not really new I don't think. It sounds like heavily modified Axl vocals as 2:21 of the demo.

Just now, PrimalScream said:

I think it's Axl doing ooooh hoooohs with a heavily processed voice

Ah fuck, you beat me lol. Yeah, it's the same at 2:21 in the demo, just not modified.

11 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Credits under the youtube video:

Producer, Associated Performer, Keyboards, Studio Personnel, Engineer: Caram Costanzo

Producer, Associated Performer, Piano, Vocalist: Axl Rose

Associated Performer, Drums: Bryan Mantia

Associated Performer, Background Vocalist, Bass: Duff McKagan

Associated Performer, Guitar: Slash

Associated Performer, Guitar: Richard Fortus

Associated Performer, Keyboards: Dizzy Reed

A& R: Nick Groff A& R Coordinator: Michele Ronzon

Studio Personnel, Additional Engineer: Eric Caudieux

Studio Personnel, Additional Engineer: Sean Beavan

Composer Lyricist: Guns N' Roses

Curious about no Robin. Does this mean Richard re-recorded his solo spot?

Just now, Stay.Of.Execution said:

Poor 

I wonder what the weight on his shoulders must feel like, being a touring drummer.

Just now, Joraz said:

probably one more release left from this band for good. I dont see any ground up recordings ever coming unfortunately 

There should be 1 -3 left going by Slash's words.

19 minutes ago, SilverMachine said:

I know - the point I’m trying to convey is that anyone wanting to listen to the song for the first time having read that there’s a new Guns n Roses out, are right now getting served a low bit rate version of the old demo leak from the band’s official account, rather than the actual official release. 

It's not the band's official account though...

And check the lyrics in the description. 

The drums and bass are awesome.

4 hours ago, Zeppelin said:

Okay, I’m done caring about Perhaps now. When is The General coming out?

This! I don't even care if The General ends up being worse than the hype. I just want to hear it and close a chapter.

1 minute ago, Blackstar said:

The main difference is in how he sings "behaviour" (the last syllable). Could that be an effect?

I don't think it's current Axl. Only the low vocals on the chorus could be recent.

The fact that he recorded new vocal takes for Perhaps at some point makes me optimistic that he may have recorded proper vocals for State of Grace.

They managed to change 'parasitic semen sucking acid through your heart' in Silkworms to 'parasitic demon sucking acid through your heart' in Absurd through what sounds like vocal effects, so I guess it's possible for them to theoretically alter how 'behaviour' sounds in Perhaps. I'm not a studio wizard though.

As for the low vocals in the chorus, I don't think they're new either. You can hear them buried very deeply on the Village Sessions mix.

16 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Sounds like a different take to me https://voca.ro/1f8dke7SMSp1

To my ears, that line sounds like the same take - only that the 'new' vocals are overlayed with effects (like HS). That's not to say there aren't newer vocals in the song though (there definitely are - like the 'hey heys' and 'ahhhs').

1 minute ago, PrimalScream said:

A lot of recent uploads (as in the last couple of months) of the village sessions seems to be gone from youtube as well. 

It seems most of the leaks have been nuked, but i'm inclined to say this is likely an overreaction by UMG trying to fix their mistake re Perhaps and eradicate any public leaks.

2 minutes ago, Skamos66 said:

"Nothing" has Content ID???? 

"Various Titles" makes it sound like the label has uploaded a bunch of songs (especially from the Village Sessions) into the system to stop any attempt at posting leaks. I don't think it means any specific song is set for release.

4 minutes ago, BucketEgg said:

omg, look at these non-gnr-fan reaction to the news about Perhaps being released on jukeboxes

https://old.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/15q8ip4/guns_n_roses_new_song_perhaps_accidentally_leaks/

damn, no excitement from that side of the general public at all. maybe other general public audience might be slightly interested.

It's to be expected. GNR is little more than a legacy act in the eyes of most people.

3 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said:

Was a fair bit of noise in the bar, but obviously sounded significantly better than the cell phone recordings. Solo is more seamless and sounds pretty good when you’re listening to it on a jukebox imo. 

That's good news!

Just now, WhazUp said:

I think Slash's solo on Perhaps is fine. Then again I have always thought most of the complaints about his playing since 2016 are greatly over-exaggerated so that is coming from that mindset lol

I actually like his solo too, but the transition from Robin to Slash just kills it for me. Hopefully on the official quality release it is just Slash overlayed with Robin to make the cut/past less grating.

18 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Yes. It wouldn't be a bad marketing plan, actually. On the other hand, I suppose discussion on it wouldn't be banned on GN'R Reddit if it was intentional.

Given how beleaguered this whole marketing campaign for Perhaps has been, it is much more likely to be just one more addition in a whole host of mistakes than an intentional guerrilla marketing tactic, in my opinion. You never know though...

Just now, Jw224 said:

So weird that the people that run the subreddit let a member of team management be on there. 

Weird and GNR fandom go hand in hand, lol.

Just now, Lio said:

Why would that be? There's nothing illegal about this, right? Or would someone have reached out to them telling it's a no go? How very odd everything surrounding GNR is.

If i recall correctly, after the Village Sessions leaks, an employee or associate of the band's management was invited onto the GNR subreddit's moderation team. They had a big 'issue' with leaks back then and culled everything to do with it. It's not really surprising given Fernando was pretty active on the subreddit previously. With Perhaps, people can't even mention the jukebox scenario without getting removed, despite the fact the song is officially hosted and available to the public via the jukebox app. Anything about it gets removed due to sharing or promoting 'illegal leaks'.

I know we've talked a bit about new vocals, but listening to the Village Sessions, it seems at least the deep vocals in the chorus were present back then, just heavily buried.

2 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

The media exposure wasn't planned and part of a marketing strategy. It came because Tom Mayhue spoke out of turn and because we found the countdown page. Still, assuming a marketing strategy had been implemented leading to deliberate media exposure, delaying the release would only make sense if it was considered really important 

You're right of course, but I have no clue why they didn't just stick to the 11th given they had already received incidental exposure through Mayhue and our finding of the countdown page. They could have made the most of their mistakes... Instead, they delayed it (seemingly soon after the countdown page was found) and shot themselves in the foot since they clearly didn't cover all their bases...

2 minutes ago, Muddy said:

This is really interesting.

Release the song so it can only be heard at bars .

Die hard GNR fans flock to local bars to play it , and whoever else is at that bar hears it too(when they probably wouldn’t have otherwise).

The marketing team threw a curveball and I think it’s a great strategy 

If by curveball you mean another addition in a long list of mistakes, then sure.

A few dozen GNR fans playing the song in a few bars does not make a great strategy. Most other patrons wouldn't care, and even if they did, it's not like they can go home and look the song up on YouTube or Spotify. It would have been much more effective for the management to stick to the 11th as their release date given they already had media exposure for then.

Just now, Stay.Of.Execution said:

So this shit was probably up since August 11 we can assume? They must've pulled the plug last minute then

That, or they forgot to delay it on Touchtunes when they delayed it everywhere else. 

Just now, WhazUp said:

Listening to the soundcloud page now, Slash's solo sounds fine to me, it seems like folks are already attacking him for his playing but I think it is totally serviceable for the song

I think the bigger issue is the cut between Robin's part and Slash's part, but I will withhold final judgment until I hear a better quality version.

3 minutes ago, Gunner55 said:

Honestly I'm impressed. I live in the low income end of town haha so our bars sound equipment isn't the greatest. But from this vantage point it sounded better than Hard Skool imo. 

I don't know what's happening with this band but clearly I've just heard for myself. Perhaps is a thing. I can't believe I just heard that. My wife thinks I'm insane for leaving our friends at 1am to go to a dive bar to listen to one single song that I had to spend $5 on jukebox credits for along with another $5 for a Budweiser but I don't care. Worth it. 

What's the solo like. How grating is the cut from Robin's to Slash's part?

Just now, AxlRoseCDII said:

It’s not even a leak. This is an official release. If a company authorized by the label let’s you access and pay for it, then it’s as legitimate as any other song. 

Exactly.

The mods over at the GNR Reddit are hard at work removing any mention of the Perhaps/Touchtunes situation, even for people just talking about it. They say any links to illegal leaks are prohibited, never mind the fact that it isn't illegal to talk about a song publicly available in bars across the USA...