Propaganda

Atlas Shrugged

Cuban Skies

Monstrosity

Soul Monster

Thyme

No Love Remains 

Going Down

Seven

The General

Silkworms

Light My Fire

Tonto

Down by The Ocean

Quick Song

Ides of March

- Supposedly those were some of the songs included, not my that order, and I'm not sure if Silkworms was included either...

22 hours ago, RussTCB said:

What a bummer. Nightrain is just another in a long line of things that could've been so cool for GNR fans but got fucked up royally. 

fan clubs are never that cool. They're mostly money grab clubs. Except maybe for Metallica's one. Metallica did something for the fans!

18 minutes ago, adamsapple said:

More like california cheese-ish bread-ish something. You serve that as pizza in Europe you can close your restaurant the same day.

Seriously that pizza looks worse than Pizza Hut and that's saying something. It has no bread on the boards...

On 10/08/2018 at 12:24 AM, sl4yer said:

My post "Taco Bell, Pizza, Beer, TV Shows and his pets" isn't sarcasm 

 

 

"Alfie Bones:: Jarmo, do you know the reason behind the name Dexter? Is he a fan of the show (on Showtime)? Just curious...No need to reply if the reason is deemed private/personal.

Pine Barrens:: Could be because of the guy from The Offspring, too... but I'd rather it be the TV show.

Axl: The show and my cat named after the show, she's a methodical killer."

 

And Melissa calling him junk food advisor.

You can tell it's all kinda jokes and sarcasm but..

 

Can't help to think that It looks like Frozen Pizza!

And it's called Arni's...

Sounds like a proper Rock N'Roll band hey?

So this ain't happening?

and you wonder why they were so tired of Axl's antics... I didn't even knew that had happened, until now...

On 09/08/2018 at 9:41 AM, wasted said:

CD II and Remix were done before the reunion. So maybe it’s the record company not really being interested. The AFD re-release seemed pretty easy to release promote. 

You have touched the vault of Midas! By now we all get that it's the Label that isn't interested on anything NEW GNR related period.

So I'm expecting at some point a new single with Slash and Duff. I wouldn't say an album, but I think they will release a new single at some point.

22 hours ago, killuridols said:

The "employee" that lurks this forum, reads everything, keeps count of what we say, then probably stole your idea and presented it to them as "their" idea and GN'R (or management) must have thought that "dude/tte" is brilliant and when they saw you posting at the FB page, they eliminated you so the bosses wouldn't find out!

I'm sorry man, that's so shitty!.... @Gambit83 should make a new episode with you.... "be rippin' off the fuckin' kids..."

The "Riad intro" Musician just had a good laugh when he read this! 

Did it ever occurred all of you, that Fernando might only come here to get ideas for his job?! 

We already have all the remixes... That boat Sailed away a long time ago...

Sounds like a good rocker, I like the melody, however I do have to say that this song will never live its hype. Not sure if it's made to be a hit song or a single. It seems kind of like a regular song like IRS or Scraped. I don't think it has the potential of Better or Chinese Democracy, speaking of New GNR only of course.

Are we still talking about Evader's version?

7 hours ago, CAFC Nick said:

Source? Have been on this board for many years and never heard this one before so would be cool to understand where that came from.

I have heard that from a guy called King Offspring / Mircov, he said the same thing years ago. Every musician in the band participated whether it was writting the lyrics or playing in the song. With that said, it's obviously very vague, but...

I'm not sure of this but I think he also said Seven was an acoustic song.

2 hours ago, Finck2006 said:

People saying thyme is there was a time

Well have you heard Thyme?

1 hour ago, Finck2006 said:

No

Ides Of March, Oklahoma, Atlas Shrugged,  Oh My God, Silkworms , Down By The Ocean (Izzy), Leave Me Alone, Seven , The General , Thyme , Quick Song , Zodiac Most all titles subject to change w/out warning and r considered working titles. (Axl Rose, chinesedemocracy.com, Dec. 2008)

No what?

23 hours ago, donny said:

oh yes i have read up on that but i think he said he only got instrumentals to work with, no lyrics.

i have read old posts on this forum where people think Thyme is TWAT. 

I think it is too. There Was a Time = There + Time = Thyme,  maybe Thyme was a joke working title. 

or maybe, it's about a Plant, it's a plant of the Beta:

22 minutes ago, zombux said:

I agree with you, but not with the reason. I think there's not much "unheard" stuff from UYI sessions. there are very little known demos, so there's not much space to expand, unlike the AFD re-release. the way to go might be live shows, but we all know how GNR like releasing live stuff.

I think they can use other things as well, documentaries, shows, and all that plastic/metal crap they usually include on the boxsets.

Do you think they would mind of putting demos in the boxset that would sound very close to the finished versions? Like the QSound Versions and rough mixes, or the dats without the pianos on the songs? I don't think so... I think that if they feel they don't have enough, they would just put as much random shit as they can, and it would be kind of like Gene Simmon's vault. They don't care. People won't buy the 1000 dollars versions, but real fans will buy the deluxe versions, so I don't think they need to worry too much.

The way Axl talks about the Use your Illusion albums over the years though, it doesn't seem like he was satisfied. He often referred to those albums as not being in a particular direction and being more like a compilation of what everyone wanted to do, because they couldn't reach an agreement for a specific direction. I've read Axl complaining about the drums on the record (Don't know if it's mostly spite or constructive criticism).

Honestly I think Axl was already thinking in a Chinese Democracy kind of album (the ballads album) during that period of time already. Then on the first years with the new band, there were hardly any songs from the Illusion Years, except for Live and Let Die, November Rain and You Could be Mine. We had to wait a couple of years to get Civil War, Estranged and even Don't Cry.

So honestly, maybe because of control reasons, it doesn't feel like he was satisfied with the way those albums were made. Our best chance is if the label is imposing this boxsets to make money out of the band, then we might get lucky.

Another Worldwide Tour and Retirement. If we get lucky, we'll get a UYI Boxset, but honestly I don't think we will, cause I think the way Axl talks about the Illusion records... It seems like he wasn't satisfied with the final product.

1 minute ago, OfftheBeatenTrack said:

Thing is, this "album" has:

6 rockers (You Could Be Mine, Perfect Crime, Bad Obsession, Used to Love Her, Back off Bitch, Yesterdays)

4 midtempo songs (The Garden, Knockin' on Heaven's Door, Patience, One in a Million)

2 slow songs (November Rain, Don't Cry)

So it isn't as extreme as it looks,

I can't agree on Bad Obsession or Used To Love Her. I can agree on the rest of them, but still say that in my mind 4 rockers wouldn't do.

It's different when you have a full acoustic album, you're expecting accoustic only, you're expecting a slow paced album. A normal GNR album, in my mind I'm expecting at least  8 Rockers out of 12 songs

15 minutes ago, OfftheBeatenTrack said:

I mean, the Illusions had the same quota of slow tunes, if I'm not mistaken. So I don't think so. And I tried to "sandwich" those slower songs in between the rockier ones, to try to make it flow better. Give it a listen, you'll get what I mean

Yes, but then you have You Could Be Mine, Right Next Door to Hell, Double Talkin Jive, Bad Apples, Coma, Don't Damn me, Dead Horse, The Garden, Shotgun Blues, Get in the Ring, Civil War, Garden of Eden, Locomotive, Back Off Bitch, Pretty tied Up, 14 Years. 16 Rockers!

2 minutes ago, OfftheBeatenTrack said:

For reference, here's an album they could've put out back then:

GUNS N' ROSES - GN'R LIES (ALBUM, 1989)
Side One:
01 You Could Be Mine - written in early 1987, recorded as it is
02 The Garden - written in 1985, Axl on lead in the bridge instead of Alice Cooper
03 Perfect Crime - written in early 1987, recorded as it is
04 Don't Cry - written in 1985, Izzy/Duff on backing vocals instead of Shannon Hoon
05 Bad Obsession - written in 1985, lead guitar instead of harmonica
06 Knockin' on Heaven's Door - covered since 1987, no choir on the "slow" part
Side Two:
07 Used to Love Her - more "electrified" version, like they used to play live
08 Patience - most probably as it was recorded back then
09 Back Off Bitch - written in 1982, slightly faster tempo
10 November Rain - written in 1983, stripped down, as they used to play live
11 Yesterdays - written in 1985, as it is on the album
12 One in a Million - slightly more "electrified" version, as with Used to Love Her

The arrangement bits are just my guesses on what they would have done back then. Also, the fact they had Popcorn still functioning and playing some fantastic stuff, as well as Izzy being proiminent in the mix on Lies, would finally make the Illusion critics shut up

With five songs that could easily be lead singles, they would have no problem equaling Appetite's success, as well as making the transition to the more "complicated" material they started writing in mid-1989 (such as Civil War) much smoother.

Oh, what a dream...

That would have been a "Chinese Democracy", and the band would have lost their momentum. Too much slow songs on the album.

This is my speculation of what's gonna happen in the future:

Axl is old and doesn't care. He's on his last years of his career. He has probably 4-5 years left of his career, then he will retire. He will be touring with Slash and Duff with some stops here and there in between.

We'll probably get the Illusions boxset with Spaghetti included (as Lies was) and that's it... Then when he's retired, luckily he will finish that supposed auto biography book, and that will be it.

The Chinese Democracy Era is finished and buried, I don't think he will ever release any of those songs. Slash and Duff would never support the release of those songs anyway, cause they haven't wrote it with Axl, so they have nothing to gain from it. Playing Chinese Democracy songs is one thing, releasing new "Chinese Democracy era songs" that they haven't wrote, and were written by Axl with other artists replacing them is another. They won't support it in any way shape or form. I don't believe it.

Can I add Axl's rasp to the list? 

4 minutes ago, alfierose said:

I don't think so. Many disagree with aspects of how involved they are in the band or the way certain stuff is run but hatred is a bit extreme. Anyone who gets to the point where they feel active hatred for people associated with their favourite band probably needs to take some time out.

Heh... Could do without TB... (No disrespect)

One thing’s for sure, it’s been 10 years since GNR’s last Album Release, Chinese Democracy.

If it wasn’t for the leaks, we would probably still be crying about it and waiting for it!

So I don’t expect a new release any time soon. Not in the next 5 years or so. Axl clearly indicated that it’s not a priority.

if he didn’t deliver when he said he would for the longest time in 2006 and 2011. Imagine now that he’s saying that’s it’s not a priority.