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It’s actually shocking that this is still going. Not with us as fans but with the band. I started to get really interested in Chinese Democracy in 1999 when the articles in Spin and Rolling Stone came out giving some inside scoop into Axl and the new band and the musical direction they were taking. Then 9 years went by and this felt like a lifetime until Chinese was finally officially released in 2008. Now we are at almost 15 years. If it had just been another 9 years which is still forever we would have gotten a new album in 2017. I just have no expectation any more of an entire new album ever being released. I will never understand why a band of the magnitude doesn’t release full length studio albums. It’s truly one of the most bizarre things in the history of rock music.
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I’m going to U2 at the sphere as well. Tickets were crazy expensive but the venue and U2 doing Actung Baby in its entirety makes it totally worth it.
To answer the OP of course I’d want to see GNR there. It is going to have the best screen in the world. It’s the first venue in history to have live music in w atmos sound. Any major rock act that you love is going to sound incredible in that place!
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Maybe 1……really wish they were doing arenas. The sound in stadiums is mostly shit.
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I still think releasing a new Album called Use Your Illusion 3 with the box would have been the most amazing thing that could have ever happened
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Gotta admit- New version of NR is pretty great. The real orchestra really added a good dimension. Wonder if that’s what Axl wanted in the first place hence the music video.
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Why do so many people think OMG will be re-released?! It was already released officially. 23 years ago lol. If this song shows up again as an official release we are either living in a simulation or Axl just hates all of us. (And for the record I like OMG. I liked in 1999 and I like it now.)
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5 hours ago, UncleJosh said:
LOL. We have certainly NOT had this shit. Almost none of the live tracks have been released before officially. I have been waiting for this type of stuff for 30 years.
Why post in this thread and not the new album one? I have zero interest in a new album but you don't see me posting about it in there. I only have interest in box sets or more specifically other archival live material.
I guess I don't understand the point of posts like this.
I guess I’m not allowed to have a negative opinion lol. I’m sorry for not joining the circle jerk over the box.
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I may be in the minority here but I hate box sets. I know bands love to cash in on their back catalogues but they do it like it’s some sort of fan service which it is not. These things are always an overrated and overpriced cash grab. PUT OUT A FUCKING NEW ALBUM. We have had this shit for 30 fucking years already. Putting a live orchestra with November Rain does not make it a new fresh song.
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54 minutes ago, James Bond said:
It'd wild to think that the vocals on a new Guns album in the 2020s would have been recorded in the same decade as UYI.
I don’t think all the vocals were recorded in 1999. A lot of this stuff was worked on well after that. But I would imagine no vocals have been recorded since the final Chinese sessions in late 2007/early 2008.
And yes it’s bonkers to think a lot of it was recorded in the 90s.
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6 minutes ago, Sweersa said:Until we hear the mixing and mastering, super loud Slash guitars and Frank's already not great drumming muddled into sounding like a drum machine, or Brain's amazing drums too low in the mix. Random snippets of noticeable "Duff is back!" bass guitar with barely auditable Bucket and Robin guitar parts (if we are lucky) and Axl's vocals slightly too quiet in parts of the song.
I hope I'm wrong, but I'd prefer the crisp "overproduced" 2008 album treatment to CD2 than the above, which was Hard Skool and Absurd...
Even with all those flaws it would still break everyone’s brains yours included. But I’m with you about the production. As overly layered as CD was the dynamics of the sound were out of sight.
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If they released a brand new Album called Use Your Illusion 3 with amazing art work and all those mythical unheard tracks it would be the greatest moment of Guns N Roses fandom since the release of the Illusions in 1991.
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It’s definitely not the General lol
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51 minutes ago, Blackstar said:
Yes, the fact that these tracks appear as they're named in the Village discs is problematic. And, although the band account etc. have referred to the General by that title, it's hard for me to believe that this would be the official title, because it seems completely irrelevant (although this assumption is just based on what we've heard about the theme of the song, which may not be accurate). I find the case of Oklahoma more plausible than those of the other titles though, despite of what Axl said about "Berlin" - I think he could very well have gone back to original title and content.
Some of those track names on the village discs definitely sound like working titles (circus Maximus, D tune, dummy ect…) But keep in mind almost all of the CD songs didn’t go though a name change. Plus the General, Cuban Skies, Soul Monster ect….are all cool as fuck song titles so why change them
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6 hours ago, ChrisMaciel said:
It sounds like the ending of Soul Monster.
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23 hours ago, jafeijo said:
Hey guys! I was at the Porto Alegre gig last night, arrived early and the band was soundchecking some songs from the set. Nothing different, but suddenly they started playing this one, which really caught my attention since it has an odd chord progression and quite elaborated guitar riff. (Wasn’t a normal jam, seemed really like a work in progress, at minimum). Need to mention that Slash wouldn’t stop playing the riff as if he was trying to memorize it. At first It reminded me of the melody of Atlas Shrugged intro, which could be a reworked version of it. I recorded some of it with my phone but couldn’t get much. They played this tune about 2 times while I was on there and Slash kept playing the main riff during the whole soundcheck.
It sounds like the end part of Soul Monster.
Edit- Thought it sounded like 115 left in Soul Monster. Went back an re-listened to the instrumentals and the guitar riff actually sounds like circus Maximus.
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4 hours ago, ChrisMaciel said:
That song sounds familiar. I can’t put my finger on it though but it sounds like something from the village.
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18 minutes ago, Blackstar said:
What would put an end to this without any room for doubt is if "berlin" showed up, too.
But isn’t it back to Oklahoma? Are we even sure it’s Berlin?
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3 hours ago, SoulMonster said:
Are you searching with your own profile where you listen to GN'R occasionally or a "clean" account with no registered preferences?
My own profile. But I don’t listen to GNR all the time. I listen to other artists more
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3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:
Probably a shitty band
It is lol but that is still bizarre. Also State of Grace has Guns n Roses ahead of Taylor Swift on artists even though Taylor Swift actually has a song that is released under that title. I just find all of this very odd if these songs are not in the Spotify system or were in the system at some point
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3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:
It should only come up first if more people are searching for the audio book than the GN'R song. I have no idea whether it does. As of right now, I presume both show up and that's probably good enough.
Right now they still do. But what’s odd is if you go to Artists Guns N Roses comes up before an actual band called Atlas Shrugged lol. How bizarre is that?! And before Ayn Rand who wrote the book!
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32 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:
It would only be shitty if this was an actual and not just a hypothetical problem that reduced the usefulness of the search function. I mean, yes, we can conjure various ways such an algorithm could be misused...but how likely is it that it happens? And then you have to weigh in the amount of cases where it actually does result in some clever suggestions, like when a bunch of GN'R fans trains the system to correlate "state of grace" with "guns n' roses" despite this not even being a song found on Spotify (yet).
It is reducing the usefulness of the search function. If I want to listen to an audiobook of Atlas Shrugged that should come up first. But if some Guns N Roses fans keep searching Guns N Roses Atlas Shrugged and the algorithm now brings up that ahead of the audiobook I want to listen to then the function of the search engine has been compromised even though the book is still there a few results down. Especially if Atlas Shrugged the Guns N Roses song is not in the Spotify system on any level.
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4 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:
But there aren't 433 million who search for "cuban skies".
The purpose of Spotify suggesting music to people based on their listening preferences (or searching preferences) is to make sure that they only suggest an artist if a substantial volume of everybody who searched for a term enjoy the same music (then that music can be suggested to everybody who searches for that term). And it wouldn't take many searches by us to comprise a substantial fraction of everybody who searches for "cuban skies". It would take A LOT of searches by us to affect artist suggestions based on songs like Paradise City, Back in Black, Hey Jude, etc, where weekly searches are likely in the thousands.
And it isn't a weakness of the search algorithm if it can take as little as a few dozen searches to affect the artist suggestions, if the total number of searches for this term is not much more. It isn't the absolute number of searches that matter, but the proportion. And if a large proportion of everybody who searches for a specific song, likes the same music, then the algorithm behaves as intended if it suggests this music to all who searches for that term.
As for State of Grace, I don't know. Maybe it wasn't even the first song where the threshold was reached, just the first song where we realized Spotify was now suggesting GN'R as an artist. Or maybe more fans are like me and prefer State of Grace over Atlas and Shrugged. I don't know.
Again, I am not sure what the explanation is. But I am pretty sure that GN'R has not submitted Thyme, Ballad of Death, and many other songs for release on a new album. There are too many songs, too unlikely songs, and they all have the names they had back in 2001. It is just highly implausible. It is much more likely that this is just Spotify picking up on our listening habits. It is definitely not a perfect theory at all, but in my opinion vastly more likely than all of these songs being about to be released.
Ok so let’s say this was a Taylor Swift message board. And let’s say that we all had Spotify accounts and listened to Taylor Swift a lot. And let’s say we all started searching for 11 random song titles of songs that don’t exist. Then according to the logic of the algorithm theory those songs should start to bring Taylor Swift to the top of our search results regardless of their existence based on our habits of listening to and liking a lot of Taylor Swift. If this was the case then Spotify has the shittiest algorithm of all time. Because what should happen is it should bring up the most relative search result regardless of of listening habits. Can you imagine if google worked this way- if I typed in The General on google and it brought up Guns N Roses first vs all the other possible results just because I search for Guns N Roses a lot we would think Google was completely useless.
Also almost all the songs on CD ended up with same titles in 2008 as they were in 2001.
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2 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:As I have written quite a few times now, I believe what caused the first song to connect with GN'R was people having reached a threshold level for statistical significance. Then people started searching at an unprecedented level (even for us), which caused other songs to reach the same threshold level resulting in these too triggering GN'R as a suggested artist.
It would take a LOT more searches to affect the suggestions from "red panda", considering it is the name of a soundtrack for a fairly recent movie and undoubtedly searched for frequently, whereas "cuban skies" is likely a very rare search term and hence it would take fewer searches to reach statistical significance.
Spotify has 433 million active users. If a few hundred (and it may be much less than that) have the ability to affect the Spotify search algorithm this much then they need to completely remodel the whole thing. And someone made a good point about SOG. Why did that song just come out of nowhere?!
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I could get behind the algorithm thing for any song that has been leaked and or covered by the media. But songs like Cuban Skies and Thyme have only really been discussed on obscure message boards by the most hard core fans. It’s also interesting that while the search brings up Guns N Roses it also consistently brings up absurd at least on my end. Why does it not bring up any other GNR songs? Why only a another song that would be part of a theoretical album?
The "New Album" Thread. Thanks to the long ass thread, I’m going home!
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The guy is 61 and has fu to the max money at this point. So it’s not surprising that he is less motivated than in previous decades.
A couple points to consider about his performance abilities at this point-
Your ability to emote with power and clarity is driven by your muscular system. As we age our muscular system begins to degrade. You throw surgeries, injuries, prescription drugs and poor dietary choices on top of the natural decline of the muscles and you end up no longer being able to sing the same. You almost have to train like an athlete to maintain a semblance of what you were in your peak life years. (See Jagger, Mick) so 2009-2010 was probably the end of Axl’s prime as a singer. Just like great athletes no longer in their prime can bring it in fits and spurts (like Axl in AC/DC) they can longer maintain the standard of excellence they once achieved.