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The lithograph is awesome. Hope the show is great! 

Just as long its at least half unheard stuff. I’m not counting the instrumentals without vocals. Would love to hear that stuff completed. 

I like both. Would love to hear the alt lyrics live. It’s insane that he put both versions out on the same album (I know technically it’s two albums but really it’s just one giant album) Have any other artist ever done this? Are there other iconic songs with alternate lyrics out there?! 

I was at the 12/29/01 show at the Joint in Vegas. I wrote about it at length awhile back in another thread. Couple of fun facts-

Axl was in the best shape physically that he has been in since the early 90s

One of only 4 shows to feature Silkworms until two weeks ago. 
 

Only the third show back since 1993. 
 

One of only four shows to feature Paul Huge Tobias on Rhythm guitar. 
 

One of only four shows in which Axl did not have corn rolls until 2009. 
 

One of only four shows to feature OMG.

Show had sound issues in the beginning that led to Axl leaving the stage and Robin slamming his guitar down. 
 

Bucket did his crazy nunchucks routine. 
 

Maybe not the best Buckethead era performance but it certainly was incredibly memorable. 

4 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Ha. Try now. 

I will second @MaskingApathy. Have you heard anything new lately? And please tell me @Pele is wrong about that track list? 

2 hours ago, Pele said:

I think it is, they've clearly been pasted over a beat early.

It wasn't like this on the demos and he doesn't sing it like this.

 

Like that stupid little 'boop' after the second 'It Don't Really Matter' in CD.  I remember people saying he won't leave that in - some even claimed it was intentional to help trace leaks.  Then it was in the album version.

Also the wailing that quickly silenced after the "and so afraid" in Madagascar.  Sounds like he was going to start a new verse then they cut it.  Again, I remember people saying that would be cut, but they left it in.

 

Like I said elsewhere - this utter utter nonsense about him being a 'perfectionist' needs to be put to bed.

He is obviously talented, and when he's good he's very good - but he serves up absolute garbage at times.  Poorly produced cut and pastes, and some dreadful songs.

 

A perfectionist wouldn't dream of writing Scraped/Riad/Silkworms - let alone recording them.  This guy actually RELEASED them.

 

The well is dry, he's given up, he's not going to write/record anything and you're all waiting for an album of reworked demos from 99 with his original vocal and some covers they recorded a while ago.

 

I've told everyone the 'new' album tracklist.

Bookmark this post.  If this album ever sees the light of day, guarantee the below will be 90% accurate as a minimum:

• HardSkool (99 vocal)
• Atlas Shrugged (99 vocal)
• Going Down (Duff on Vocal)
• Silkworms (99 vocal)
• New Duff Song
• Knocking on Heavens Door (99 vocal)
• The General (07 vocal)
• Perhaps (99 vocal)
• PRL (instrumental with Thyme)
• Duff punk song (this ones for Johnny!)
• Cover (07 vocal possibly Light My Fire)
• Oh My God (99 Vocal)

 

So you can all entertain yourself about how 'amusing' Pele is, while you wait for imaginary, completed versions of D-Tune, Zodiac, Berlin, Quick Song, As it Began, Curly Shuffle etc etc, or even worse - brand new Axl/Slash/Duff compositions.

 

 

If that’s the new album track list that will be extremely disappointing. 

Locomotive! Oh wait nope just a giant dick

8 minutes ago, surforia said:

Saw the first ever performance of this back in NYC at Hammerstein.  That show was the best vocal performance I’ve ever seen from any performer in any band.

I went to one of the Hammerstein shows and the MSG show in 2006. That was one of the best eras for Axl’s voice. Just take a listen to Stuck Inside by Sebastian Bach for confirmation.  

I wish but don’t think Axl could do it justice now. Check out his 2006 Rock Am ring performance if you are missing this one live. 

Interesting. That’s the first article I’ve seen giving a partial review of some of the leaks. 

Watched a few videos on YouTube today. Band does sound good. I’ve always been more of an Axl guy than a Slash guy but I’ve come away from every reunion show I’ve been to (4 so far) more blown away by Slash and the band than Axl. I wonder if the change in energy is about new music. Guess we will find out soon. 

20 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Yes.

And the original version wasn't nu metal or industrial either. It was electronica/electro-punk. Some people just tend to label anything that's synth driven or using samples as industrial or nu metal.

#truth

Looks like a beautiful place to watch a concert. Hope all who are going have a blast! 
 

8 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

I always loved it.. Can't go without mentioning Gravedancer either... Amazing song..

Shit your right @Tom-Ass. I forgot Gravedancer. You are right that’s another top song! 

3 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

I may have mentioned Messages in that video but I can't remember. I gave Loving The Alien all sorts of attention though, that's for sure. 

 Have we collectively underrated Libertad? While I think Contraband is superior there are four really good songs on Libertad. Aforementioned Messages, Let it Roll, She Builds Quick Machines, and The Last Fight. I feel like people thought it sucked when it really didn’t. 

On 8/7/2021 at 6:02 AM, RussTCB said:

I started out trying to pick obscure / lesser known closers but how could I not include Purple Rain?? 

As far as GN'R goes, Don't Cry Alt actually closes UYI II but I get your point

And yeah, I think Loving The Alien is massively underrated 

Loving the Alien is massively underrated and so is Messages from Libertad. I have no clue why that song ended up as a B-side. Slash’s guitars work on that song is some of the best he did in VR. 

3 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

If the band had more songs in the alt list I would say it’s possible. Think they’d want to promote the album more instead of only throwing in 2 songs. Then again who the fuck knows with this band haha

Realistically because GNR is a legacy act marketed primarily to casual fans these days I would imagine they would play 3-4 songs tops from the new disc. I would imagine they would replace CD and Better with two more new songs. Gone are the halcyon days post CD when Axl would play 3/4 of that album live. Their business model has changed dramatically. Personally I don’t give two fucks just as long as we get a new album. 

1 hour ago, Caught_in_a_Coma said:

Was Seven on the "locker" leak material?

It could be. Who knows. The names of those songs are 20+ years old. Silkworms just became Absurd. The Circus Maximus instrumental is amazing. Something like that could have ended up becoming 7. 

Just now, RussTCB said:

I've been saying it's about Slash since 2002. It's just my guess, but I feel like my guess is backed up heavily by the fact they've never done it with Slash in the band and I don't think they ever will

If so that’s a shame because that song in particular is the musical bridge between UYI and CD. Would love to hear Slash play on it. I wonder if any awkward conversations have taken place about the lyrical inspiration of some of the CD songs. 

Played 4 times in 2001. HOB, RIO, LV@the joint Dec 29th and 31st. TWENTY FUCKING YEARS later it comes back out of nowhere last week (at least from a live performance stand point obviously it had leaked in various forms over the years) and then has a name change (to Absurd which is an Absurd song name) and then becomes the first official release with Slash and Duff. I would have never believed this in a million years when I heard this song live 20 years ago. 

38 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

They'll never play that song with Slash in the band since it's directly about him. 

Has this been spoken about anywhere? Reading the lyrics I can see how it could be about Slash but it could just as easily be about Erin Everly, or Stephanie Seymour ect…..

48 minutes ago, KURT19 said:

I played it for my wife this afternoon and here is her review:

“OK, that’s a horrible song and I can only understand three words: ‘motherfuckers’, ‘absurd’ and ‘you are’.  Is he singing thru a megaphone?”

I told her that she’s wrong. That’s four words.

My wife really likes GNR. And she liked Chinese. She listened once and was I like I don’t know about that one. It’s a little hard core. 

1 hour ago, agustingloger said:

That's why I'm all in ! Anything with Slash sounding like GNR Slash that You can't find in any other proyect. Velvet was close though

Velvet was close but it still wasn’t quite the same. 

I think what’s most appealing is Slash playing Guns N Roses guitar. There is just something he does that’s a bit different that he does on Guns songs that he doesn’t do on any of his other material.