Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Does Axl use some form of auto tune to enhance the precision of his vocals?I find it hard to believe the sound produced at 0:03 is natural: Or perhaps it was the mix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Well considering the vocal performance that night if there was something to enhance the vocals it did a pretty shitty job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I thought Axl voiced his distaste of auto-tuning during his interview with Eddie Trunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 That is very much live, RIR showed that if he has a bad vocal night you will know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Not auto tunes. It's not like it's a difficult vocal part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I thought Axl voiced his distaste of auto-tuning during his interview with Eddie TrunkI think it’s a cheat; but then again if it’s necessary to get through a show in one piece the lure would be quite compelling.Well considering the vocal performance that night if there was something to enhance the vocals it did a pretty shitty jobCould Axl’s vocal performance have been a lot worse? I think the answer is yes.Plus such technology might only apply to certain songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I think its pretty certain they use backing tracks for certain songs, and I hear an echo effect on his voice during Rio but I doubt he is using autotune effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 and I hear an echo effect on his voice during Rio but I doubt he is using effectsThat’s what I’m trying to get at.There seems to be some sort of effects going on (particularly in the example I provided). I used “some form of auto tune” as a sort of general term for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 He uses echo, but not auto tune. Nothing wrong with echo.Do you think 0:03 is 100% an Axl effort? It’s a pretty remarkable noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Weeks of people bitching about his rio vocals and now this. Some people need to get laid or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Everyone does it. It's mainly there lightly to catch way off notes. Also the sound engineers can turn it on and off or up and down depending on the difficulty of the song to sing. It's no secret everyone uses it.Also someone mentioned the Eddie Trunk interview in '06, from my recollection Axl was the only one out of Trunk, Jericho, and Baz to not outright say how much he hated it. He in fact said that it made somethings go easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIKOZ3 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Weeks of people bitching about his rio vocals and now this. Some people need to get laid or something.Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Everyone does it. It's mainly there lightly to catch way off notes. Also the sound engineers can turn it on and off or up and down depending on the difficulty of the song to sing. It's no secret everyone uses it.Also someone mentioned the Eddie Trunk interview in '06, from my recollection Axl was the only one out of Trunk, Jericho, and Baz to not outright say how much he hated it. He in fact said that it made somethings go easier.Thanks for this contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I don't know about live, but Axl uses it on Chinese Democracy, sometimes a little too much. That's just my own opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1447 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnRDuff1 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I don't know about live, but Axl uses it on Chinese Democracy, sometimes a little too much. That's just my own opinion though.Most notably (for me) in Scraped at 1:19. I meant wtf man it sounds like he just takes the pitch wheel on a keyboard and jams it up. Sometimes I feel like MY life's..... love the song a lot but that kills the feel of the raw angry blues rock song that it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarheels180 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 why do you find the 0:03 bit so unnatural? he sounds completely normal to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnRMatt Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I just watched that clip 3 times and i don't hear it. But with the weather and stuff that night it could be down to that I suppose... maybe the sound people were doing something, who knows, sounds fine to me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 why do you find the 0:03 bit so unnatural? he sounds completely normal to me...It (the sequence) sounds almost artificial; like elements of Scraped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I don't know about live, but Axl uses it on Chinese Democracy, sometimes a little too much. That's just my own opinion though.Most notably (for me) in Scraped at 1:19. I meant wtf man it sounds like he just takes the pitch wheel on a keyboard and jams it up. Sometimes I feel like MY life's..... love the song a lot but that kills the feel of the raw angry blues rock song that it isAll those years he worked on the album, how the hell did they let that line slip? Sounds like a fuckup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I don't know about live, but Axl uses it on Chinese Democracy, sometimes a little too much. That's just my own opinion though.Most notably (for me) in Scraped at 1:19. I meant wtf man it sounds like he just takes the pitch wheel on a keyboard and jams it up. Sometimes I feel like MY life's..... love the song a lot but that kills the feel of the raw angry blues rock song that it isAll those years he worked on the album, how the hell did they let that line slip? Sounds like a fuckup.Didn't Axl say during the chats that it was intentional? I don't remember the exact quote and I'm too lazy too look it up lol but I think that's what he said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Weeks of people bitching about his rio vocals and now this. Some people need to get laid or something.I was thinking the same thing. Everyone's been complaining up a storm about Axl's voice since Rio and now someone claims to think he's cheating?Also, auto-tune is different from many live tools used by singers all over the world, all day every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Everyone's been complaining up a storm about Axl's voice since Rio and now someone claims to think he's cheating?Inaccurate.I don’t have a problem with Axl incorporating technology to help maintain his incredibly difficult vocal style in an era of cynicism and critique for rock stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I don't hear any remarkable noise...I’ve never heard Axl achieve such a clean and exquisite “end” before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1447 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 He uses echo, but not auto tune. Nothing wrong with echo.Do you think 0:03 is 100% an Axl effort? It’s a pretty remarkable noise.I don't hear any remarkable noise...Sorry.Samealso autotune is only used in studio and is not used in live time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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