Tyler Drama Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Listen to this. This was the first time Guns N' Roses ever performed the song Chinese Democracy. Listen carefully to the way Axl sings it. He's singing in a way that says "I want to show people exactly how awesome this song is" almost as if he's trying to impress the audience. Compare this performance to any recent performance of the song. Now he sings it in a way that he sings all the other songs in the setlist. "You've heard this song a bunch of times and like it, so now I'm gonna sing it for you." He still gives the songs his all and fucking sings his heart out, but none of them have the same feeling as this performance of Chinese Democracy in 2001. He performs like this when debuting something brand new. I can't wait until the next time he debuts a brand new song and wants to impress us all. Anyone understand what I'm saying? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 As much as I agree... "Sometimes I feel like like beatin' dead horse".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tat2d1 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 IMO, he should just release a new song every 3-4 months for a year or so, then release an album. If he can have 3 solid singles out in a year's time maybe more people would be interested enough to buy the new album and it would do a little better than CD did. The old way of releasing albums just doesn't really work any more, time to try something different.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock4eva Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 What year was this please?He sounds really good here, his voice is more level if that makes sense. No highs and lows, great speech beforehand too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 What year was this please?2001, like I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeryen Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 it also makes me sad that he doesn't talk on stage like he used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janabis Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 This will always be the definitive recording of the song for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loko Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I agree, but I think departure of Robin/Buckethead/Brain from the band also is a reason. For them all ChD songs was their songs, now for Ron/Frank/Ashba is just another song which they have to play but don't have any emotions about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eu4ic Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Yea Axl was trying really hard in '01-'02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfriend Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) It is a great performance - but let's not forget that Axl and his voice have aged 11 years since then.I agree though, he does occasionally seem a bit complacent on stage even about the 'newer' (or should that be 'slightly less old') material now. I don't think the fans are the ones who need convincing there should be new material though... Edited February 25, 2012 by tomfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) It was a darker version of CD. I like it somewhat more. Excellent vocals.Yeah I feel the same way, it has a different feel than the final versionI am really curious as to what the studio version of the song sounded like back in the 99-02 era Edited February 25, 2012 by WhazUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Wow, can't believe how candid he was back then about playing new material live... Alot has changed for sure. The 2006 new songs were only played because they leaked but we received an abundance of new material prior to that. Chinese, Silkworms, Riad, The Blues and Maddy, that's almost half an album. Personally don't think we will get a new song live until a follow up album surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gunns5 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) I love how every era of GnR have their own distinctive feel, look and sound.I will always miss the bucket era the most though. Edited February 25, 2012 by gunns5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfriend Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I love how every era of GnR have their own distinctive feel, look and sound.I will always miss the bucket era the most though.Seconded. Whatever it amounted to it was a daring, exciting time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Yeah...Even though the live performances weren't quite as polished ( and...predictable ) as today's, they had an edge. They must have been very exciting...Wish Axl felt the same about new music nowadays. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Yeah...Even though the live performances weren't quite as polished ( and...predictable ) as today's, they had an edge. They must have been very exciting...Wish Axl felt the same about new music nowadays. *sigh*They were less of a "nostalgic cover band"(not my thoughts but I can see why people use that term) back then than they are now too... It seemed he really was trying to show that this was a reinvention and not a duplication back then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loko Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Yeah...Even though the live performances weren't quite as polished ( and...predictable ) as today's, they had an edge. They must have been very exciting...Wish Axl felt the same about new music nowadays. *sigh*They were less of a "nostalgic cover band"(not my thoughts but I can see why people use that term) back then than they are now too... It seemed he really was trying to show that this was a reinvention and not a duplication back then....+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrsucksdotcom Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Couldn't agree more! He definitely wanted to show the world his new music but yet again he was 38 years old........ Edited February 25, 2012 by gnrsucksdotcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Couldn't agree more! He definitely wanted to show the world his new music but yet again he was 38 years old........Something transpired from 2002-2006 that made him ALOT less enthusiastic about the whole ordeal. The banter with the crowd has diminished greatly. Here he spoke about the origins of Chinese Democracy and was proud to display it. Nowadays he is silent for the most part and does not debut any new songs. Edited February 25, 2012 by Young_Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gunns5 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Couldn't agree more! He definitely wanted to show the world his new music but yet again he was 38 years old........Something transpired from 2002-2006 that made him ALOT less enthusiastic about the whole ordeal.if I were to hazard a guess I'd say the main factor being someone who weighs between 150 - 300 kgs and gets enjoyment out of benefiting from others work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Yeah...Even though the live performances weren't quite as polished ( and...predictable ) as today's, they had an edge. They must have been very exciting...Wish Axl felt the same about new music nowadays. *sigh*They were less of a "nostalgic cover band"(not my thoughts but I can see why people use that term) back then than they are now too... It seemed he really was trying to show that this was a reinvention and not a duplication back then....For sure. Unlike nowadays, he wasnt trying to be what GNR was once. They were just a new GNR with a real future in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Yeah...Even though the live performances weren't quite as polished ( and...predictable ) as today's, they had an edge. They must have been very exciting...Wish Axl felt the same about new music nowadays. *sigh*They were less of a "nostalgic cover band"(not my thoughts but I can see why people use that term) back then than they are now too... It seemed he really was trying to show that this was a reinvention and not a duplication back then....For sure. Unlike nowadays, he wasnt trying to be what GNR was once. They were just a new GNR with a real future in sight.Sure wish he would express his feelings toward the whole debacle... It's clear to me that alot did not go his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 IMO, he should just release a new song every 3-4 months for a year or so, then release an album. If he can have 3 solid singles out in a year's time maybe more people would be interested enough to buy the new album and it would do a little better than CD did. The old way of releasing albums just doesn't really work any more, time to try something different....This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) In 2001 and 2002 Axl seemed to lack confidence. He tried hard in the new songs - the intro for The Blues was a highlight of his vocals on any given show. He used to talk more to the crowd, sure, but mostly to complain about something or tell people how hard it was for him to be there in the first place.Nowadays he seems happier, more confident and just more concerned with putting out a great show than hitting every single note so people will like the new stuff. I think it's great. He knows the album is out there for people to judge and he's just there to have fun, not prove himself. Edited February 25, 2012 by Stardust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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