Georgy Zhukov Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Plus the editing and continuity was awful. Bond calling a Colt. 1911 a Smith and & Wesson that "had its six" meaning he meant for it to be a revolver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It's funny how poorly Dr. No has aged compared to From Russia With Love even though they were only a year apart. That said, I do enjoy Dr. No for what it is (and I'd still rank it above YOLT and DAF). The dinner scene with Dr. No is classic, and Connery is very energized in his performance. I will say that Bond ordering Quarrel to "fetch" his shoes though is perhaps a bit inappropriate considering the time period. True, but then I watch Live and Let Die and I think...Well I think they are both relics of their time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It's funny how poorly Dr. No has aged compared to From Russia With Love even though they were only a year apart. That said, I do enjoy Dr. No for what it is (and I'd still rank it above YOLT and DAF). The dinner scene with Dr. No is classic, and Connery is very energized in his performance. I will say that Bond ordering Quarrel to "fetch" his shoes though is perhaps a bit inappropriate considering the time period. True, but then I watch Live and Let Die and I think...Well I think they are both relics of their time Shut yo' mouth, honky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 It's funny how poorly Dr. No has aged compared to From Russia With Love even though they were only a year apart. That said, I do enjoy Dr. No for what it is (and I'd still rank it above YOLT and DAF). The dinner scene with Dr. No is classic, and Connery is very energized in his performance. I will say that Bond ordering Quarrel to "fetch" his shoes though is perhaps a bit inappropriate considering the time period. True, but then I watch Live and Let Die and I think...Well I think they are both relics of their time Shut yo' mouth, honky.For $20, I'll take you to a Ku Klux Klan meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Names are for tombstones, baby! Take this honky out back and waste him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share Posted November 21, 2015 To combine our latest topics - what does everyone think of the Live and Let Die score? I think it's a lot of fun myself. It's very much of its time and pretty quirky but George Martin gives us some nice cues based around the title song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I like it. Like you said, the music from the title track lends itself wonderfully to the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 SPECTRE took some serious damage at the box office this past week according to BOM. We're now at $677 million worldwide ($153 million domestically) but it dropped significantly compared to the previous two weeks which were generally ahead of QOS and only marginally behind Skyfall. Even The Hunger Games didn't quite meet the expected grosses, so it seems that things are quieting down on the theatre front as the world waits for Star Wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 The good news is that it officially posted a "profit"! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 This is true! I'll gladly help their continued profits with another viewing or two, but first I've got to see Rocky 7/Creed. Wait, this is 2006 all over again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I'll probably see it one more time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Spectre's launch seemed a lot more low key than Skyfall. The cinema I was at was only 25% at capacity two weeks after its release, peak viewing period (Friday evening). I believe I saw Skyfall slightly earlier and it was a sell out and I was very lucky to get a ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 When I saw it on the Thursday it came out (granted this was the 11:45 showing), the showing I was at was only like 15-20% full at most. I had my friend order tickets online early because I figured it would be packed...man was I wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 My opening night showing was sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardNixon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Not as successful as Skyfall, but still a big hit and will be probably be in the top five grossing films of 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 Interestingly, the Tuesday show I went to last week was more packed than opening night. Granted, both were afternoon shows as opposed to peak evening times. The money it's making despite a lukewarm reception (and no Skyfall level promotion) is proof of how popular Craig is as Bond. He's enough of a draw so I'm certain we'll see him for at least one more once the new distributor is chosen.I'm still predicting it'll finish at around $825 million worldwide - still a huge smash despite not quite reaching Skyfall heights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I remember asking a few months or so before the movie came out whether or not it would match Skyfall at $1 billion. Everyone seemed so sure it would beat Skyfall at the box office. Whoops With that being said there's nothing wrong with the numbers it's doing. I wonder when we'll hit "peak" box office numbers - i.e. both the number of movie goers and the gross both start doing down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I saw this a few nights ago and I thought it was fantastic.Arguably the best of the Craig films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 A very fine argument indeed. I'm still not sure how I will truly rank the Craig films aside from knowing that QOS is my least favourite. It still amazes me that Quantum isn't more of a mess considering the troubled production due to the writer's strike. If I ranked all 24 films it'd probably fall somewhere in the middle - not a bad accomplishment for a film that barely had a functional script before Forster and Craig knocked it into shape.I remember asking a few months or so before the movie came out whether or not it would match Skyfall at $1 billion. Everyone seemed so sure it would beat Skyfall at the box office. Whoops With that being said there's nothing wrong with the numbers it's doing. I wonder when we'll hit "peak" box office numbers - i.e. both the number of movie goers and the gross both start doing down?Boy were we wrong. Here we were ready to camp outside to make sure we get a seat and the film sneaks right by. It's hard to say. Until Star Wars comes out there really isn't a whole lot more direct competition it will face so the casual grosses should still hold up over the next couple of weeks despite the drop this past week. The fact that it still held number two with such minimal grosses shows that it was a slow week for movies in general. I can't remember offhand how many weeks Skyfall played and where it truly dipped (it probably shows on BOM) but we should expect something similar, just with smaller numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) If the film was just as good or better than Skyfall than it would have topped it. Skyfall was just better paced, edited and more memorable. Spectre is a flawed film but it hits the notes as Bond film. I would rank Skyfall number 1 as a Craig film because it celebrates the series and it is more entertaining. Silva is by far the best villain in the Craig films, sorry Waltz fans, but audiences loved him. Especially his intro scene, that was beautifully done. Even his death scene got some laughs because he looked really pissed off that Bond killed him. Casino Royale comes really close though, the story makes more sense than Skyfall and Spectre, but it got clunky in the second half after Le Chiffre's passing. Quantum is by far the worse. Spectre is in the top ten highest grossing Bond films of all time with inflation. Right now it is at a 71. Skyfall 2012 Daniel Craig $1,108,561,0082. Thunderball 1965 Sean Connery $1,014,941,1173. Goldfinger 1964 Sean Connery $912,257,5124. Live and Let Die 1973 Roger Moore $825,110,7615. You Only Live Twice 1967 Sean Connery $756,544,4196. The Spy Who Loved Me 1977 Roger Moore $692,713,7527. Spectre 2015 Daniel Craig $677,802,8798. Casino Royale 2006 Daniel Craig $669,789,4829. Moonraker 1979 Roger Moore $655,872,40010. Diamonds Are Forever 1971 Sean Connery $648,514,46911. Quantum of Solace 2008 Daniel Craig $622,246,37812. From Russia with Love 1963 Sean Connery $576,277,96413. Die Another Day 2002 Pierce Brosnan $543,639,63814. Goldeneye 1995 Pierce Brosnan $529,548,71115. On Her Majesty's Secret Service 1969 George Lazenby $505,899,78216. The World is Not Enough 1999 Pierce Brosnan $491,617,15317. For Your Eyes Only 1981 Roger Moore $486,468,88118. Tomorrow Never Dies 1997 Pierce Brosnan $478,946,40219. The Man with the Golden Gun 1974 Roger Moore $448,249,28120. Dr. No 1962 Sean Connery $440,759,07221. Octopussy 1983 Roger Moore $426,244,35222. The Living Daylights 1987 Timothy Dalton $381,088,86623. A View to a Kill 1985 Roger Moore $321,172,63324. Licence to Kill 1989 Timothy Dalton $285,157,191Knocked Quantum out of its place. Edited November 23, 2015 by Georgy Zhukov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Craig basically needs to make one more film to top Roger Moore. Granted Moore has done seven films, three of them in the top then.I don't think he can top Connery, unless his next film is like really amazing. Or Bond finally gets a male lover. Maybe he can achieve it. 1.Sean Connery$4,349,294,5532.Roger Moore$3,855,832,0603.Daniel Craig$3,078,399,7474.Pierce Brosnan$2,043,751,9045.Timothy Dalton$666,246,0576.George Lazenby$505,899,782 Poor George. Edited November 23, 2015 by Georgy Zhukov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 21. Octopussy 1983 Roger Moore $426,244,35222. The Living Daylights 1987 Timothy Dalton $381,088,86623. A View to a Kill 1985 Roger Moore $321,172,63324. Licence to Kill 1989 Timothy Dalton $285,157,191Aka why Goldeneye was perhaps the most important movie of the entire series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 21. Octopussy 1983 Roger Moore $426,244,35222. The Living Daylights 1987 Timothy Dalton $381,088,86623. A View to a Kill 1985 Roger Moore $321,172,63324. Licence to Kill 1989 Timothy Dalton $285,157,191Aka why Goldeneye was perhaps the most important movie of the entire series. Well the hiatus must have helped. After Spy they kept getting a film every two years. People got sick of them and they weren't warming up to Dalton. Brosnan was always the favorite since Steele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 A very fine argument indeed. I'm still not sure how I will truly rank the Craig films aside from knowing that QOS is my least favourite. It still amazes me that Quantum isn't more of a mess considering the troubled production due to the writer's strike. If I ranked all 24 films it'd probably fall somewhere in the middle - not a bad accomplishment for a film that barely had a functional script before Forster and Craig knocked it into shape.I remember asking a few months or so before the movie came out whether or not it would match Skyfall at $1 billion. Everyone seemed so sure it would beat Skyfall at the box office. Whoops With that being said there's nothing wrong with the numbers it's doing. I wonder when we'll hit "peak" box office numbers - i.e. both the number of movie goers and the gross both start doing down?Boy were we wrong. Here we were ready to camp outside to make sure we get a seat and the film sneaks right by. It's hard to say. Until Star Wars comes out there really isn't a whole lot more direct competition it will face so the casual grosses should still hold up over the next couple of weeks despite the drop this past week. The fact that it still held number two with such minimal grosses shows that it was a slow week for movies in general. I can't remember offhand how many weeks Skyfall played and where it truly dipped (it probably shows on BOM) but we should expect something similar, just with smaller numbers.I'd probably rank Quantum just outside of my top 10 still. It's the weakest Craig film, but I'll still take it before all but the absolute best entry from most of the other Bonds.I've been of the opinion for the last two years or so that, on my ranking, Casino Royale and Skyfall are so close that I really couldn't pick one over the other. SPECTRE is currently my favorite, but I think after more time/viewings it'll soften to the same tie on my ranking with those 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Ok I watched the movie yesterday, the cinema hall was pretty empty, the movie was ok, It wasn't WOW. Skyfall was much better compared to this one even though I din't Love Skyfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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