Bono Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I just saw this tonight. I thought it sucked. No point in saying anymore. It sucked that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Mission Impossible > James Bond 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Mission Impossible > James BondGet out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Mission Impossible > James Bond/banned 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Shooting down a helicopter with a PPK did bother me. That is something that Mythbusters should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Shooting down a helicopter with a PPK did bother me. That is something that Mythbusters should do.Not to mention clearing out Spectre's lair by casually walking out into open fire, shooting like 5 bullets (and hitting an enemy with each) while they completely miss, then blowing up the entire place with one perfectly placed shot? The agency that has people everywhere only has like 7 people guarding its base?! Meanwhile in CR and parts of Skyfall you have Bond barely surviving multiple times by the skin of his teeth. Gotta get back to that more surrealistic approach.Also one final request for the next movie...maybe have Bond NOT go rogue for once in Craig's time? Considering the amount of times Bond has gone rogue the past few movies I'm surprised he still has a job. Edited November 13, 2015 by Crazyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 The action scenes were horrible, the story was lame, the acting was bad. Daniel Craig seemed bored to death in the role. The transitions to "love scenes" were laughable even for Bond movie standards. This was just a bad movie. sorry I said more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 I just don't see how Daniel seemed bored in his performance. It's probably the most comfortable he's looked in the role to date. I do think he shot himself in the foot with his initial comments about being over the role because I think that's really affecting how people are watching the film. Kind of like a "he doesn't care so why should we" sort of thing. Not saying that's why you feel that way Bono (obviously you can feel about the film however you want), but I just bring that up because it's been a common criticism in most of the North American reviews.I guess it's been doing Skyfall numbers all week at the box office though - Monday through Thursday grosses in North America were about equal to Skyfall. Not bad considering all the negative press. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan H. Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I've asked if anyone as seen SPECTRE and they go "What's that?" They weren't even aware. Did this film not get any promotion?Was thinking the same thing. My guess is it has just been barreled over by a combination of being released in between two major holidays, and the mass promotion Star Wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I've asked if anyone as seen SPECTRE and they go "What's that?" They weren't even aware. Did this film not get any promotion?Was thinking the same thing. My guess is it has just been barreled over by a combination of being released in between two major holidays, and the mass promotion Star Wars.Plus if the film went through rewrites, that means reshoots and that means a fuck load of money. So marketing costs were cut maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Shooting down a helicopter with a PPK did bother me. That is something that Mythbusters should do.Not to mention clearing out Spectre's lair by casually walking out into open fire, shooting like 5 bullets (and hitting an enemy with each) while they completely miss, then blowing up the entire place with one perfectly placed shot? The agency that has people everywhere only has like 7 people guarding its base?! Meanwhile in CR and parts of Skyfall you have Bond barely surviving multiple times by the skin of his teeth. Gotta get back to that more surrealistic approach.Also one final request for the next movie...maybe have Bond NOT go rogue for once in Craig's time? Considering the amount of times Bond has gone rogue the past few movies I'm surprised he still has a job.Well, how realistic can it get? There's several action scenes in CR and SF and QoS where Bond walks away with cuts and bruses but any normal man would have wound up in the hospital or the morgue. The parkour scene and the scene where Bond gets fucking shot and falls hundreds of feet into a river. He should have been dead. But Bond is fucking bad ass lioke that.No matter how you look at it, no human being could survive the shit Bond went through. A doctor can watch these films laughing at the "realism" same with Nolan's Batman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 I think, even throughout the Craig era, that Bond has maintained a comfortable amount of fantasy. Cubby always stressed the importance of that in the Bond engine, and I think it's true. The Skyfall train example is a good one - he gets shot off a train and falls hundreds of feet. How does he survive? He's James Bond! Not everything about these films has to be super realistic, and that's part of the charm of Bond. It's like the superhero franchise of spy films. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 How he easily seduces women? He's James Bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 How he easily seduces women? He's James Bond. Even if he did seduce a former child prostitute in Skyfall. I bought tickets for Round 2 of SPECTRE for this coming Tuesday. Tuesday just worked out logistically (cheaper tickets and my day off), but it also happens to be nine years to the day that Casino Royale opened (and I first saw it) so it feels appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 She was grown up and old enough to make her decisions. Pussy Galore disliked men and was a lesbian until she met Bond. Tiffany Case was gang raped some time before she met Bond.Of all the seductions, the one that raises the eyebrows was with Solitaire. Stacking the deck in his favor, steals her virginity. Turned her into a horny tart. Man the 70's were a weird time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Shooting down a helicopter with a PPK did bother me. That is something that Mythbusters should do.Not to mention clearing out Spectre's lair by casually walking out into open fire, shooting like 5 bullets (and hitting an enemy with each) while they completely miss, then blowing up the entire place with one perfectly placed shot? The agency that has people everywhere only has like 7 people guarding its base?! Meanwhile in CR and parts of Skyfall you have Bond barely surviving multiple times by the skin of his teeth. Gotta get back to that more surrealistic approach.Also one final request for the next movie...maybe have Bond NOT go rogue for once in Craig's time? Considering the amount of times Bond has gone rogue the past few movies I'm surprised he still has a job.Well, how realistic can it get? There's several action scenes in CR and SF and QoS where Bond walks away with cuts and bruses but any normal man would have wound up in the hospital or the morgue. The parkour scene and the scene where Bond gets fucking shot and falls hundreds of feet into a river. He should have been dead. But Bond is fucking bad ass lioke that.No matter how you look at it, no human being could survive the shit Bond went through. A doctor can watch these films laughing at the "realism" same with Nolan's Batman. Fair point, however neither of those movies had such unrealistic moments like how Bond escapes Spectre or the ending sequence of getting kidnapped, disarming multiple guards (while handcuffed and blindfolded), scavenging the entire MI6 building, finding and saving Swann AND getting out within 3 minutes, then shooting down Blofeld's helicopter (which for some reason can't outrun a tiny boat) with his pistol(!) from a long distance, while driving said boat. I expect that sort of stuff from Bonds of the past, but in a Craig movie? That's why I'd really like to see the version of the script that leaked - I get that the goal was to focus on the Blofeld reveal and on Bond's past, but they forgot to write any sort of reasonable combat scenes with Bond directly involved. She was grown up and old enough to make her decisions. Pussy Galore disliked men and was a lesbian until she met Bond. Tiffany Case was gang raped some time before she met Bond.Of all the seductions, the one that raises the eyebrows was with Solitaire. Stacking the deck in his favor, steals her virginity. Turned her into a horny tart. Man the 70's were a weird time. Even despite my hangups with Spectre, I can't fault Bond there. I mean, I would do the same in that situation (a 21 year old Jane Seymour?!)...and I'd like to think of myself as a decent person Edited November 14, 2015 by Crazyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I do want to say, Bond was bad ass in this. He was like a slasher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I do like the new MI6 building and Q's lab. The MI6 building was too futuristic. Remember the stuff in Quantum of Solace? White and clear windows and those apps? Cringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I hope Jeffrey Wright returns as Felix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Shooting down a helicopter with a PPK did bother me. That is something that Mythbusters should do.Not to mention clearing out Spectre's lair by casually walking out into open fire, shooting like 5 bullets (and hitting an enemy with each) while they completely miss, then blowing up the entire place with one perfectly placed shot? The agency that has people everywhere only has like 7 people guarding its base?! Meanwhile in CR and parts of Skyfall you have Bond barely surviving multiple times by the skin of his teeth. Gotta get back to that more surrealistic approach.Also one final request for the next movie...maybe have Bond NOT go rogue for once in Craig's time? Considering the amount of times Bond has gone rogue the past few movies I'm surprised he still has a job.Well, how realistic can it get? There's several action scenes in CR and SF and QoS where Bond walks away with cuts and bruses but any normal man would have wound up in the hospital or the morgue. The parkour scene and the scene where Bond gets fucking shot and falls hundreds of feet into a river. He should have been dead. But Bond is fucking bad ass lioke that.No matter how you look at it, no human being could survive the shit Bond went through. A doctor can watch these films laughing at the "realism" same with Nolan's Batman. Fair point, however neither of those movies had such unrealistic moments like how Bond escapes Spectre or the ending sequence of getting kidnapped, disarming multiple guards (while handcuffed and blindfolded), scavenging the entire MI6 building, finding and saving Swann AND getting out within 3 minutes, then shooting down Blofeld's helicopter (which for some reason can't outrun a tiny boat) with his pistol(!) from a long distance, while driving said boat. I expect that sort of stuff from Bonds of the past, but in a Craig movie? That's why I'd really like to see the version of the script that leaked - I get that the goal was to focus on the Blofeld reveal and on Bond's past, but they forgot to write any sort of reasonable combat scenes with Bond directly involved. She was grown up and old enough to make her decisions. Pussy Galore disliked men and was a lesbian until she met Bond. Tiffany Case was gang raped some time before she met Bond.Of all the seductions, the one that raises the eyebrows was with Solitaire. Stacking the deck in his favor, steals her virginity. Turned her into a horny tart. Man the 70's were a weird time. Even despite my hangups with Spectre, I can't fault Bond there. I mean, I would do the same in that situation (a 21 year old Jane Seymour?!)...and I'd like to think of myself as a decent person Hell, I'd rail the shit out of a 64 year old Jane Seymour I do want to say, Bond was bad ass in this. He was like a slasher. The one thing I noticed in SPECTRE is everyone is a lot more blunt about Bond's career, including Bond himself. Several characters outright refer to him as an assassin, much harsher than the normal "I work for the government" or "I'm an agent" stuff. Even when Swann is interviewing Bond he flatly says "I kill people for a living". And his character totally reflected this change in tone. I do like the new MI6 building and Q's lab. The MI6 building was too futuristic. Remember the stuff in Quantum of Solace? White and clear windows and those apps? Cringe.You do realize that the now former MI6 building is the actual MI6 building in London, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I forgot what Swan's reaction to that line. "Oh, you and my father should get along." Yeah, I know it is the actual building. They should take the filmmaker's advice and abandon it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I forgot what Swan's reaction to that line. "Oh, you and my father should get along." Yeah, I know it is the actual building. They should take the filmmaker's advice and abandon it. I think her reaction was just she asked "Where is he?", then Bond said "Your father? He's dead", and that launched the whole exchange about whether or not Bond killed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Bond giving Mr. White a gun was an act of mercy. Thalium poison looks like a nasty way to go. Information for a quick death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Bond helping White in the first place doesn't make sense, considering what happens at the end of CR, and then at beginning of QoS. Also how the hell would MI6 know where he is and not make any attempt to arrest him? The man was responsible for at least several major crimes, and no effort was made to explain what happened to him after he escapes in QoS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Bond helped Mr. White to get information. As for Mr. White not being arrested, sometimes it is better if they let them live to see if they get contacted by the underworld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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