saber_ Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 With the inception of Chinese Democracy, Guns n Roses' sound was radically changed (with the exception of Axl's voice). Did the modernization of Guns' sound help to bring new fans into the fold? To what extent did Chinese Democracy pull in new fans? I would argue that Chinese Democracy has achieved a sort-of cult status. It's the little black-sheep engine that could. Did Chinese Democracy increase the spectrum of Guns n Roses' fan demographic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I've never met a soul that got pulled into the GnR world by listening to Chinese Democracy. They all discovered Gnr by listening to the old songs first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinaman33 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Most people I know don't even know that chinese democracy was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 I've never met a soul that got pulled into the GnR world by listening to Chinese Democracy. They all discovered Gnr by listening to the old songs first.Fair enough. But do you think that those people do indeed exist? Perhaps some Buckethead afficianados own Chinese Democracy and were never extensively exposed to pre-2001 Guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I've never met a soul that got pulled into the GnR world by listening to Chinese Democracy. They all discovered Gnr by listening to the old songs first.Fair enough. But do you think that those people do indeed exist? Perhaps some Buckethead afficianados own Chinese Democracy and were never extensively exposed to pre-2001 Guns?I wish but i feel like even fans of Buckethead, Buttfuck, NIN, Tool, Replacements, LSL, Thin Lizzy, 6AM, Prodigy, Praxis, Primus and so on heard of old Gnr music first before finding this stuff. Old Gnr was just way too popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 It pulled me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlterL Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I've meet some people that did, some friends of mine who didn't listen to any of the GN'R stuff until they heard CD, some other friends of mine also meet them trough some of the other guys (Bumblefoot, Ashba and Buckethead to be clear) and of course it will, there's always someone that doesn't know the band, even if GN'R where the biggest band in the world many people would still hear them trough other artist and/or members of the band.For example I was a fan of Alter Bridge (Myles Kennedy's band) way before I was a GN'R or Slash fan, and the only reason that I heard Slash's solo albums was becouse they had Myles in the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimMorrison4 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 With the inception of Chinese Democracy, Guns n Roses' sound was radically changed (with the exception of Axl's voice). Did the modernization of Guns' sound help to bring new fans into the fold? To what extent did Chinese Democracy pull in new fans? I would argue that Chinese Democracy has achieved a sort-of cult status. It's the little black-sheep engine that could. Did Chinese Democracy increase the spectrum of Guns n Roses' fan demographic?If anything, it drove many people away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamin' Demon Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) With the inception of Chinese Democracy, Guns n Roses' sound was radically changed (with the exception of Axl's voice). Did the modernization of Guns' sound help to bring new fans into the fold? To what extent did Chinese Democracy pull in new fans? I would argue that Chinese Democracy has achieved a sort-of cult status. It's the little black-sheep engine that could. Did Chinese Democracy increase the spectrum of Guns n Roses' fan demographic?Guns N' Roses sound was never changed besides for addition of Matt, Dizzy & Gilby. You're talking about a complete change of band, thus not of Guns N' Roses. Axl didn't change the sound of Guns N' Roses, he just changed bands & naturally achieved a change of sound musically. The remainder of Guns N' Roses left and the band ceased to exist before he could change their sound. Edited February 15, 2013 by Screamin' Demon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 On paper it should broaden the fan base. In terms of people who like GNR. No ones unliking GNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 One thing is for certain, it attracted a bunch of dorks to the online community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Manson Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 One thing is for certain, it attracted a bunch of dorks to the online community.AXL vs SLASH! FIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlrod Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I was a fan of new generation Rock bands ie Muse, 30sec, etc turned to GNR because of ChiDem. ChiDem topped the chart all over the world and iTunes so at least some new fans like myself hooked by the album. Facebook likes started from hundreds to 20M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Did The Phantom Menace increase the spectrum of Star Wars' fan demographic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I was able to show a lot of people that Axl's new band puts on a hell of a show, at least musically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useyorappetite Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Sure it did. Not that many people i think but if anything it was news for GNR. like it or not it's been a long time since they were the biggest band in world. And myself I have heard of Metallica and Nirvana many years before GNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Did The Phantom Menace increase the spectrum of Star Wars' fan demographic?I know you have the full retard avatar and you're reeeeally into it and everything, but try to stay on topic. To answer your question, yes, Phantom Menace did increase the Star Wars' fanbase demographic. Millions of children and young people never saw the originals and instead grew up on the prequels. Similarly, but to a lesser extent, I believe Chinese Democracy brought in some new fans: young ones, guitar virtuoso aficionados, ones who heard the leaks, and people who were generally curious. To be clear, demographic is not the same as raw numbers. I'm not saying Chinese Democracy brought in millions upon millions of new fans. Rather, I believe it widened the demographic of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Did The Phantom Menace increase the spectrum of Star Wars' fan demographic?I know you have the full retard avatar and you're reeeeally into it and everything, but try to stay on topic. To answer your question, yes, Phantom Menace did increase the Star Wars' fanbase demographic. Millions of children and young people never saw the originals and instead grew up on the prequels. Similarly, but to a lesser extent, I believe Chinese Democracy brought in some new fans: young ones, guitar virtuoso aficionados, ones who heard the leaks, and people who were generally curious. To be clear, demographic is not the same as raw numbers. I'm not saying Chinese Democracy brought in millions upon millions of new fans. Rather, I believe it widened the demographic of fans.+1. My kids likes starwars cos they saw the phantom menace, then the original trilogy.I saw GNR in 93, but became a fan in the 2000's cos the leaks and the new band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Did The Phantom Menace increase the spectrum of Star Wars' fan demographic?I know you have the full retard avatar and you're reeeeally into it and everything, but try to stay on topic. To answer your question, yes, Phantom Menace did increase the Star Wars' fanbase demographic. Millions of children and young people never saw the originals and instead grew up on the prequels. Similarly, but to a lesser extent, I believe Chinese Democracy brought in some new fans: young ones, guitar virtuoso aficionados, ones who heard the leaks, and people who were generally curious. To be clear, demographic is not the same as raw numbers. I'm not saying Chinese Democracy brought in millions upon millions of new fans. Rather, I believe it widened the demographic of fans.+1. My kids likes starwars cos they saw the phantom menace, then the original trilogy.I saw GNR in 93, but became a fan in the 2000's cos the leaks and the new band.You guys thought I was making a different point than I was making. Your posts confirm my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) I've never met a soul that got pulled into the GnR world by listening to Chinese Democracy. They all discovered Gnr by listening to the old songs first.Not true. I bought CD first followed by GH then AFD then Lies then UYIs. I was teenager during the height of Gnr but for some reason never got into them. About three years ago I heard TIL which prompted me to look up CD and I have been really into them ever since.I find the whole guns mythology fascinating and I can't work out why the hell it bypassed my radar first time round.I think the internet, iTunes, smart phones have really opened up the world of music for people like me. I was never the type to hang around record stores but since getting a smartphone I have listened to all kinds of bands I probably wouldn't have otherwise.Really glad Gnr are starting to make better use of the internet as a promotional tool as I think it will increase the fanbase demographic. Edited February 15, 2013 by alfierose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 Did The Phantom Menace increase the spectrum of Star Wars' fan demographic?I know you have the full retard avatar and you're reeeeally into it and everything, but try to stay on topic. To answer your question, yes, Phantom Menace did increase the Star Wars' fanbase demographic. Millions of children and young people never saw the originals and instead grew up on the prequels. Similarly, but to a lesser extent, I believe Chinese Democracy brought in some new fans: young ones, guitar virtuoso aficionados, ones who heard the leaks, and people who were generally curious. To be clear, demographic is not the same as raw numbers. I'm not saying Chinese Democracy brought in millions upon millions of new fans. Rather, I believe it widened the demographic of fans.+1. My kids likes starwars cos they saw the phantom menace, then the original trilogy.I saw GNR in 93, but became a fan in the 2000's cos the leaks and the new band.You guys thought I was making a different point than I was making. Your posts confirm my point.What is your point again? Indulge me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsession Of Vanity Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I'm a fan of GN'R because of the song Sorry. I heard that, and I was hooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Did The Phantom Menace increase the spectrum of Star Wars' fan demographic?it did though. A whole new generation of kids got into star wars. Clone wars too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 With the inception of Chinese Democracy, Guns n Roses' sound was radically changed (with the exception of Axl's voice). Did the modernization of Guns' sound help to bring new fans into the fold? To what extent did Chinese Democracy pull in new fans? I would argue that Chinese Democracy has achieved a sort-of cult status. It's the little black-sheep engine that could. Did Chinese Democracy increase the spectrum of Guns n Roses' fan demographic?You have to go back to when Bucket and Robin were in the band, not the release of Chinese Democracy. The songs were familiar by the time the CD came out. I don't think it increased or decreased the fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisRoyalSweetness Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I was a fan of new generation Rock bands ie Muse, 30sec, etc turned to GNR because of ChiDem. ChiDem topped the chart all over the world and iTunes so at least some new fans like myself hooked by the album. Facebook likes started from hundreds to 20M.yeah, and if you'll remember correctly, gnr had literally ZERO facebook likes during the old band's period. literally every single facebook like has come during the nugnr era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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