Guest NGOG Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Label me controversial, but screw Hollywood's excommunication of Mel Gibson. He's an acting/directing great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-Pit Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Label me controversial, but screw Hollywood's excommunication of Mel Gibson. He's an acting/directing great.I like it when Family Guy! said how in his latest film he's going to save The English from... The English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I love Mel Gibson.One of the best actors and directors in history of film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He's great. Recent films like The Beaver and Get The Gringo were awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Does anybody else, contrary to popular opinion, really like his interpretation of Jesus Christ's Passion? As always with Gibson it indulges in artistic licence, but the critics were harsh on that piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 His work is still good, but the man has proven himself a nutbag and thus many people started to dislike his face regardless of the movie. It's called the Tom Cruise effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He may be a bit of a dick, but the guy is immensely talented. He is responsible for some of the best movies out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It's called the Tom Cruise effect.Cruise is a nut. Gibson has a drink problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It's called the Tom Cruise effect.Cruise is a nut. Gibson has a drink problem.Hey, it's called the Tom Cruise effect because he is the most extreme example of the effect. Otherwise it'd be called the Mel Gibson effect. But the basic principle is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He's great. Recent films like The Beaver and Get The Gringo were awesome.Get The Gringo was very good...I really enjoyed it and was shocked to know that prison really exists.Does anybody else, contrary to popular opinion, really like his interpretation of Jesus Christ's Passion? As always with Gibson it indulges in artistic licence, but the critics were harsh on that piece.Passion of the Christ was a very powerful movie.Only the Jews hated it but it's just a bible story on the big screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hey, it's called the Tom Cruise effect because he is the most extreme example of the effect. Otherwise it'd be called the Mel Gibson effect. But the basic principle is the same. I find it a bit unfair that he's been blacklisted by the industry. Everybody harbours questionable views exasperated and made public by the juice.Cruise is nutty by nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hey, it's called the Tom Cruise effect because he is the most extreme example of the effect. Otherwise it'd be called the Mel Gibson effect. But the basic principle is the same. I find it a bit unfair that he's been blacklisted by the industry. Everybody harbours questionable views exasperated and made public by the juice.Cruise is nutty by nature.Well, there is the entire anti-Semite issue.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hey, it's called the Tom Cruise effect because he is the most extreme example of the effect. Otherwise it'd be called the Mel Gibson effect. But the basic principle is the same. I find it a bit unfair that he's been blacklisted by the industry. Everybody harbours questionable views exasperated and made public by the juice.Cruise is nutty by nature.Well, there is the entire anti-Semite issue.. Big woop people need to be less sensitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Well, there is the entire anti-Semite issue.. Granted, but should his value to the industry be sacrificed over a religious prejudice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzygirl Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Does anybody else, contrary to popular opinion, really like his interpretation of Jesus Christ's Passion? As always with Gibson it indulges in artistic licence, but the critics were harsh on that piece.I think it's one of the best films ever made about The Passion and it's absolutely brilliant. I think he is an amazing director and a very good actor. One of the best without a doubt. I don't care his private life at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Does anybody else, contrary to popular opinion, really like his interpretation of Jesus Christ's Passion? As always with Gibson it indulges in artistic licence, but the critics were harsh on that piece.I think it's one of the best films ever made about The Passion and it's absolutely brilliant. I think he is an amazing director and a very good actor. One of the best without a doubt. I don't care his private life at all. Glad to hear someone else enjoyed it. I agree with you when you say it's one of the most powerful depictions of the Passion.There was a lot of reservations about the torture scenes, but I support what Gibson did there. It captures the brutality of Roman authority, almost symbolizing the years of savage oppression subsequently conducted against the Christian minority. It also illustrates the level of disdain there was for this mere carpenter, who technically challenged the superlative authority of the emperor and claimed to be the euphoric warrior the Jews were awaiting. Edited July 31, 2013 by NGOG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelinrocksnexttognr Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Get the gringo was great. And I'm glad he's got some roles coming up. Like in the new machete, and expandables. And a cameo in the up coming mad Max. Also loved passion and apocalyptico and braveheart. He's proven to be a he'll of a director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I feel like I'm the only person who either doesn't think Cruise and Gibson are nuts, or just don't give enough of a shit to even think about it.Seriously, their movies are awesome, and so are they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBOSS Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 guys don't feel sorry for mel, he's extremely wealthy if he never works again. I enjoy his movies, even if he went a little nuts on that rant. he was worth over $800 million and had to give up half of it in his divorce, doh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 One of the better actors out there and a great director. Disgusting how his career has been ruined because he said the wrong thing about the wrong people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppelinrocksnexttognr Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Thing was that he was recorded saying things while being pissed off... seriously who hasn't said anything stupid while in a blind rage? It happens to everyone. It's a shame, But I think if stays behind the camera he can make some beautiful pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 guys don't feel sorry for mel, he's extremely wealthy if he never works again. I enjoy his movies, even if he went a little nuts on that rant. he was worth over $800 million and had to give up half of it in his divorce, doh.She was with Mel when he was a struggling actor, they had a lot of kids together, he's enjoyed all the things money can buy, but at his age, he probably wants to just take it easy, direct more movies, and act here and there.There's no doubt in my mind they still love each other, but I'm sure she enjoys the distance she has from him now, they'll get together and be the best of pals for their kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Gibson and Cruise are both awesome.Gibson, for his work. He's a solid actor for the type of roles he does, naturally charming, but really revealed himself to be quite a great director. I was happy to see Spike Lee give Apocalypto a shout-out in his list of essential films for filmmakers. Gibson said and did some horrible things, but I at least have sympathy: his father was a Holocaust denier who probably brainwashed that shit into him, and when you're really drunk, all kinds of bad things can come out of the inner recesses of your mind. I don't think people who haven't struggled with alcoholism get that. People who just get "pretty drunk" don't understand how drinking to the point some people do, to escape pain, can unleash all kinds of repressed stuff you didn't even know was lurking in there. I'm not saying that justifies anything he said, but I don't think the sober Mel Gibson literally believes any of that nonsense, or hates Jews. Cruise just has a wacky religion that he got brainwashed into at an early stage in his career, by a manipulative religion who spotted a young, fresh-faced, rising star and took advantage of his generosity and overzealous nature. Cruise is always pushing to learn more and experience more, and that was the ultimate catch for him, I'm sure: being teased with some of the ideas behind Scientology and getting tangled up in it so easily. The church shields him from all the horrible stuff they do and, being a celebrity, he's isolated from the everyman perspective of it, and I doubt he really reads the Internet reports or anything. I don't judge him for his involvement in the church. I have a problem with the stuff they do, but based PURELY on the ideas behind the religion -- Xenu and all that shit -- what can you say of it? That it's crazy? Unrealistic? Is it much crazier than a virgin birth, the Resurrection, or the miracles in the Bible (ocean parting, man trapped in a whale's belly, etc.)?Cruise is a driven actor who is always pushing the boundaries with his projects. Not the greatest actor in the world but probably the greatest movie star and someone who, with their name attached to a project, always ensures there's something behind the movie. Even when his movies are failures, I've never had the impression that he's done something out of laziness, an easy paycheck, or anything else. Even Oblivion, which I thought was good but flawed, had tons of ambition and moments of genius behind it. The guy is in his early 50s and is still kicking ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Both extremely mediocre twats that traded on good looks and a slightly above-Stallone level of acting talent that try and attach themselves to epics thats require limited range and there you have it. Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise in almost every movie he's in just like Bogart was always Bogart, difference being Bogart had presence, Bogart lit up the screen, Tom Cruise is a little midget.And his films are just painfully boring, i can watch some pretty dire cinema really but even i walked out of Mission Impossible. I don't give a flying fuck whether someone hates jews or is a Scientolowhatever in their spare time, just purely judging on acting ability neither of em are all that and never will be. Edited August 2, 2013 by sugaraylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Both extremely mediocre twats that traded on good looks and a slightly above-Stallone level of acting talent that try and attach themselves to epics thats require limited range and there you have it. Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise in almost every movie he's in just like Bogart was always Bogart, difference being Bogart had presence, Bogart lit up the screen, Tom Cruise is a little midget.And his films are just painfully boring, i can watch some pretty dire cinema really but even i walked out of Mission Impossible. I don't give a flying fuck whether someone hates jews or is a Scientolowhatever in their spare time, just purely judging on acting ability neither of em are all that and never will be. Agreeing with sugarfeylemon before he gets piled on. Before we got too much insight into their personal issues, they were both good movie stars - in as much as they were safe, familiar and reliable on screen. Neither are Great Actors of the Olivier/Brando/or even Sean fucking Penn variety. Edited August 2, 2013 by Angelica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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