DieselDaisy Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 'Sometimes Moen Ali bowls like Tom May, then sometimes he bowls like Theresa May'', Mark Butcher, Verdict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 Oz 1st innings, skittled for 85!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 12, 2016 Author Share Posted November 12, 2016 Do me a favour and sign this, https://www.change.org/p/england-wales-cricket-board-ditch-the-durham-penalty-points?tk=9B8BDx53lFjC4Y0ade8YQQbFHRfORDNddVbV0ucwITo&utm_source=petition_update&utm_medium=email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) Australia are in disarray. PS Edited November 16, 2016 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 England are knackered now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 What a complete pile of wank. Gutless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 hours ago, PappyTron said: What a complete pile of wank. Gutless. Having a bit of a Claude moment are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 6 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Having a bit of a Claude moment are we? The fucking umpire! How many decisions did he get wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, PappyTron said: The fucking umpire! How many decisions did he get wrong? Dharmasena? He is having a shocking tour. He had about 9 decisions overturned by DRS during the England v Bangladesh thing. PS There is a new book which scientifically judges the greatest bowling performances. Here are the top ten, 1 Hugh Tayfield, 9 for 113 v England, Johannesburg, 1957 2 Harbhajan Singh, 8 for 84 v Australia, Chennai, 2001 3 Stuart Broad, 8 for 15 v Australia, Trent Bridge, 2015 4 Bob Willis, 8 for 43 v Australia, Headingley, 1981 5 Devon Malcolm, 9 for 57 v South Africa, The Oval, 1994 6 Michael Holding, 8 for 92 v England, The Oval, 1976 7 Curtly Ambrose, 6 for 24 v England, Port-of-Spain, 1994 8 Bob Massie, 8 for 53 v England, Lord's, 1972 9 Curtly Ambrose, 7 for 25 v Australia, Perth, 1993 10 Richie Benaud, 6 for 70 v England, Old Trafford, 1961 http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/1067114.html Edited November 22, 2016 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 I cannot contain my excitement at the test cricket currently. Who is the greatest team here? Pakistan on a bit of a slide, despite a recent brilliant streak. Oz on a colossal slide. The South Africans in the ascendancy, with possibly the most exciting upcoming bowler in the world. The Indian/England series poised at a point which is difficult to predict, but certainly it is Fortress India and England are underdogs. Brathwaite breaths new life into a Windies team, and a Bangladeshi side picking up their first major scalp. Who says test cricket is dead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 What is up with the Aussies and dodgy moustaches? They look like a team of paedophiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 It's November...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 26, 2016 Author Share Posted November 26, 2016 Awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Pic on wall of local curry house...GO ON IMRAN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Imran was amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Trying his hand at politics now...he'll never get nowhere though, hes an honest man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) India are probably going to win this 4-0 and without setting the bunsen burners we all expected. They are balanced wickets - and England cannot even blame the toss this time. The England selectors have made a dog's dinner. My team for the next two tests, Cook Hameed (if his hand is alright?) Root Butler Mo Bairstow (w) Stokes Woakes Rashid Broad (or Jake Ball if unfit) Anderson. I do not like Butler coming in at seven. It unsettles the balance of the team, unless you are handing him the gloves which I wouldn't do. I'd dispense with the third spinner policy as our spinners are shit. May as well play to our strengths. 13 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Trying his hand at politics now...he'll never get nowhere though, hes an honest man. Except when taking a bottle top to a cricket ball? Edited November 29, 2016 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 The elephant in the room seems to be Moeen Ali. I don't think that he is a particularly great batsman, and his spin isn't good enough to be a frontline spinner, so rather than covering two positions he is actually hindering two positions. It's also embarrassing than Hameed, a boy, was pretty much the only player who seemed to value his wicket in both innings. England, for all of their progress from the dark days of crap like Martin McCague and Mark Ramprakash (a phenomenally talented batsman no matter his issues for England) still haven't learned to grind out matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 9 hours ago, PappyTron said: The elephant in the room seems to be Moeen Ali. I don't think that he is a particularly great batsman, and his spin isn't good enough to be a frontline spinner, so rather than covering two positions he is actually hindering two positions. It's also embarrassing than Hameed, a boy, was pretty much the only player who seemed to value his wicket in both innings. England, for all of their progress from the dark days of crap like Martin McCague and Mark Ramprakash (a phenomenally talented batsman no matter his issues for England) still haven't learned to grind out matches. Poor old Mo has been around the block; they even tried him out as an opener at one stage, in Abu Dhabi against the Pakistanis! He actually plays as a three for Worcestershire. He is actually a very elegant batsman, and he was one of these players making test-saving runs from that latish middle order, as a seven or eight (The Bairstows, Stokeses and Alis getting England out of trouble is a recurring theme of this team) so they bumped him up the order and he has been found out in that position. I think Rashid's improved form as a spinner basically settles the question on his spin: Ali is a (quasi) part-timer, and can now concentrate on his batting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Poor old Mo has been around the block; they even tried him out as an opener at one stage, in Abu Dhabi against the Pakistanis! He actually plays as a three for Worcestershire. He is actually a very elegant batsman, and he was one of these players making test-saving runs from that latish middle order, as a seven or eight (The Bairstows, Stokeses and Alis getting England out of trouble is a recurring theme of this team) so they bumped him up the order and he has been found out in that position. I think Rashid's improved form as a spinner basically settles the question on his spin: Ali is a (quasi) part-timer, and can now concentrate on his batting. The biggest issue that Moeen has, funnily enough, is that he can do a bit of everything so England use him to plug gaps in whatever they need, even if he isn't ideally suited to it. Another batsman who had the same issue was poor old Alec Stewart, who would have carried the kitbag and served tea and crumpets if the selectors had asked him to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, PappyTron said: The biggest issue that Moeen has, funnily enough, is that he can do a bit of everything so England use him to plug gaps in whatever they need, even if he isn't ideally suited to it. Another batsman who had the same issue was poor old Alec Stewart, who would have carried the kitbag and served tea and crumpets if the selectors had asked him to. Up until quite recently, the ECB would have preferred him to be a spinner who bats a bit, rather than a batsman who bowls (slightly superior than) part-time. He was part of their general muddled thinking in the quest to find England's frontline spinner. He is actually a very elegant batsman - a touch of the Gowers - but prone to brainless shots. In his defense, the entire England top order (except Hameed) got out to brainless strokes in that 1st innings: witness Cook trying to cut Ashwin's first delivery too close to his body, and Root's golf strike across the line!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Up until quite recently, the ECB would have preferred him to be a spinner who bats a bit, rather than a batsman who bowls (slightly superior than) part-time. He was part of their general muddled thinking in the quest to find England's frontline spinner. He is actually a very elegant batsman - a touch of the Gowers - but prone to brainless shots. In his defense, the entire England top order (except Hameed) got out to brainless strokes in that 1st innings: witness Cook trying to cut Ashwin's first delivery too close to his body, and Root's golf strike across the line!! Yeah, it's typical of England that Moeen was brought in as a batsman who could bowl and was turned into a bowler who was expected to bat. The root problem is, unfortunately, that we don't have any truly top class spinners and haven't had in a very long time (Swann is the best of a bad bunch, with Monty coming in second with probably Robert Croft and Ashley Giles fighting it out for third place, ahead of crap like Tufnell, Min Patel, Peter Such et al). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, PappyTron said: Yeah, it's typical of England that Moeen was brought in as a batsman who could bowl and was turned into a bowler who was expected to bat. The root problem is, unfortunately, that we don't have any truly top class spinners and haven't had in a very long time (Swann is the best of a bad bunch, with Monty coming in second with probably Robert Croft and Ashley Giles fighting it out for third place, ahead of crap like Tufnell, Min Patel, Peter Such et al). Swann was great all round. Monty was somewhat inconsistent career wise but terrific in 2012 in India, where the Indians had created Bunsen Burners, the policy backfiring spectacularly. The ECB tried to facilitate spin by eradicating the toss in the County Championship last year, offering the away side the chance to bowl first. The theory is that too many home sides, taking their 50/50 punt on winning the toss and bowling first, create green seamers so their medium pace county plodders will get the ball to nibble around, and that is why there is this dearth of spin in English cricket. The ECB believe that, the removal of the toss will induce groundsmen to create wickets with more turn and improve the spinners. Results yet to be correlated but certainly there seemed a bit more success for the spinners. Edited November 30, 2016 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Swann was great all round. Monty was somewhat inconsistent career wise but terrific in 2012 in India, where the Indians had created Bunsen Burners. The ECB tried to facilitate spin by eradicating the toss in the County Championship last year, offering the away side the chance to bowl first. The theory is that too many home sides, taking their 50/50 punt on winning the toss and bowling first, create green seamers so their medium pace county plodders will get the ball to nibble around, and that is why there is this dearth of spin in English cricket. The ECB believe that, the removal of the toss will induce groundsmen to create wickets with more turn and improve the spinners. Northants were fined for creating spin friendly wickets when we had Swann, Monty and Brown in the team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share Posted November 30, 2016 Just now, sturginho said: Northants were fined for creating spin friendly wickets when we had Swann, Monty and Brown in the team... Are you accusing the ECB of not being foresighted and logical in their decision making? Come, come!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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