JONEZY Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Super Bowl Prediction:Patriots 27Seahawks 24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) So Jeff Blake says that all teams do it and Fran Tarkenton say it's no big deal.And now people are quoting Richard Sherman as the voice to listen to? SMH.People love to hate on those that are successful. Weird trait, but what can you do.Oh, I was shocked to see that the most successful team of the past decade as the fewest turnovers over the same period. In other mind shattering news - the NBA team with the best record over the last decade also has the least amount of turn overs. And the MLB team with the best record over the last decade, oddly enough, has scored more runs than any other team in the last decade. BRAN - no comment on the controversy that should be surrounding Andy Dalton and Danny Woodhead?????the thing people keep forgetting when bringing up jeff blake,brad johnson and fran tarkenton is before brady and manning wanted the rules changed the home team supplied footballs were supplied the footballs for BOTH teams, so jeff blake deflates the footballs for better grip, the other team gets the same advantage. this is not the case with the patriots, they and they alone had the benefit, so what tarkenton and blake says is meaningless. as for sherman what is wrong with him? the guy from all indications is a very intelligent person and went to stanford, so why dismiss what he says?as for the baseball analogy imagine one team playing with a japanese baseball and one playing with a regulation US baseball.......as for turnovers yes teams that win the turnover battle have a winning percentage of .750 i already posted statistics from the wall street journal and other places that show after the rule change of 2006(that brady fought for) the fumble prevention the patriots have showed is impossible. like i said this is all running in circles, the numbers are the numbers.as for dalton and woodhead i cant comment on something i dont know, what did andy dalton or danny woodhead do or not do? Edited January 29, 2015 by bran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 http://yahoo.thepostgame.com/blog/throwback/201501/bill-bradley-knicks-ball-tester-air-deflate-basketball-pressure-patriots-nba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 So Jeff Blake says that all teams do it and Fran Tarkenton say it's no big deal.And now people are quoting Richard Sherman as the voice to listen to? SMH.People love to hate on those that are successful. Weird trait, but what can you do.Oh, I was shocked to see that the most successful team of the past decade as the fewest turnovers over the same period. In other mind shattering news - the NBA team with the best record over the last decade also has the least amount of turn overs. And the MLB team with the best record over the last decade, oddly enough, has scored more runs than any other team in the last decade. BRAN - no comment on the controversy that should be surrounding Andy Dalton and Danny Woodhead?????I don't get what you argument is here Apollo? What the Pats did was against the rules and they have a history of breaking or stretching the rules. Is it a major infraction? Probably not, but it is still against the rules and when you figure in Belichicks history it makes it a bigger deal then it should be.And of course it is magnified by how successful the Pats are. Nobody would give a shite if the Raiders did it. Comes with the territory...........In any case they broke the rules and they should be punished for it.http://yahoo.thepostgame.com/blog/throwback/201501/bill-bradley-knicks-ball-tester-air-deflate-basketball-pressure-patriots-nbaSo what you are saying is because other people cheat what the Pat did is o.k.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 So Jeff Blake says that all teams do it and Fran Tarkenton say it's no big deal.And now people are quoting Richard Sherman as the voice to listen to? SMH.People love to hate on those that are successful. Weird trait, but what can you do.Oh, I was shocked to see that the most successful team of the past decade as the fewest turnovers over the same period. In other mind shattering news - the NBA team with the best record over the last decade also has the least amount of turn overs. And the MLB team with the best record over the last decade, oddly enough, has scored more runs than any other team in the last decade. BRAN - no comment on the controversy that should be surrounding Andy Dalton and Danny Woodhead?????I don't get what you argument is here Apollo? What the Pats did was against the rules and they have a history of breaking or stretching the rules. Is it a major infraction? Probably not, but it is still against the rules and when you figure in Belichicks history it makes it a bigger deal then it should be.And of course it is magnified by how successful the Pats are. Nobody would give a shite if the Raiders did it. Comes with the territory...........In any case they broke the rules and they should be punished for it.http://yahoo.thepostgame.com/blog/throwback/201501/bill-bradley-knicks-ball-tester-air-deflate-basketball-pressure-patriots-nbaSo what you are saying is because other people cheat what the Pat did is o.k.?im just curious of what andy dalton did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Pats won't win. Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlisOld Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 http://yahoo.thepostgame.com/blog/throwback/201501/bill-bradley-knicks-ball-tester-air-deflate-basketball-pressure-patriots-nbaWell you know what, they were caught. So they need to be punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Oh, I was shocked to see that the most successful team of the past decade as the fewest turnovers over the same period. In other mind shattering news - the NBA team with the best record over the last decade also has the least amount of turn overs. And the MLB team with the best record over the last decade, oddly enough, has scored more runs than any other team in the last decade. But that's not what the data is suggesting. It's more than just the Patriots having fewer turnovers/fumbles than any other team. It's that the difference between them and other teams is significantly bigger than what is acceptable from a statistical perspective. If the second best team in the MLB scores 200 home runs and the best team HITS 500 home runs, and the average is 100 home runs (this over five or six season), don't you think it's more than just one team being a bit better than the others? Like I said, the Patriots aren't just a little better with respect to fumbles-to-plays ratios, they're wayyyyyy better than other teams. Now that it's been found that ball tampering happened in this one game, the question is, doesn't this explain the significant difference in performance the past five or so years? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 scores 200 home runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Super Bowl Prediction:Patriots 27Seahawks 24That's the sort of prediction I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Oh, I was shocked to see that the most successful team of the past decade as the fewest turnovers over the same period. In other mind shattering news - the NBA team with the best record over the last decade also has the least amount of turn overs. And the MLB team with the best record over the last decade, oddly enough, has scored more runs than any other team in the last decade. But that's not what the data is suggesting. It's more than just the Patriots having fewer turnovers/fumbles than any other team. It's that the difference between them and other teams is significantly bigger than what is acceptable from a statistical perspective. If the second best team in the MLB scores 200 home runs and the best team HITS 500 home runs, and the average is 100 home runs (this over five or six season), don't you think it's more than just one team being a bit better than the others? Like I said, the Patriots aren't just a little better with respect to fumbles-to-plays ratios, they're wayyyyyy better than other teams. Now that it's been found that ball tampering happened in this one game, the question is, doesn't this explain the significant difference in performance the past five or so years? exactly the wallstreet journal showed that 6 players danny amendola,brandon lafell,benjarvus green ellis,danny woodhead,lagarrette blount, wes welker fumbled the ball 8 times in 1,482 touches of the football. that is 1 fumble for every 185.3 touches while on other teams they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches or 1 fumble per 77.3 touches. bill belichick didnt just start deflating footballs all of a sudden and for 0 reason against the colts in november and against the colts again in january. just like spygate this probably goes on for a while(at least since the rule change) you can look up the stats of fumbles starting with the rule change and its just impossible to have those kinds of numbers, especially playing in new england 8 games a year in cold and horrible conditions, not to mention going up to buffalo in the winter. to me these stats are the most damning thing in this whole situation. Edited January 29, 2015 by downzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 scores 200 home runs Fixed you miserable SOB... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mansin Humanity Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 http://regressing.deadspin.com/why-those-statistics-about-the-patriots-fumbles-are-mos-1681805710 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Or they have better players who can hold it?!/obvious jokeInteresting stats! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Marshawn Lynch is a fucking douchebag. Can't belive anyone thinks this guys schtick is cool, funny or badass. I've never seen anyone try so hard to be a rebel. he just comes off liek a massive prick. I hope he fumbles 6 times and the Patriots kill the Seahawks 54-9. Although I'm predicting more like 31-17 Patriots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I actually like it, not going to lie. Yes, it's annoying - but he's sticking to his principles, one way or another. It's not as if this is a new thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Unsure if I'm going to wear my College shirt or my Terry Glenn shirt - cos I can't find my other two Pats jerseys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 My prediction:Seahawks - 34Patriots - 13 (with three fumbles ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 30-24 seahawks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ronaldo9 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Seattle 24-21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 An interesting article on the back and forth on the data analysis provided by both sides:http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2015/01/patriots_deflated_football_science_statistics_of_fumbles_and_air_pressure.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) A.A Ron Rodgers won MVPJJ Watt won Defensive Player of the Year (unanimously)DeMarco Murray won Offensive Player of the YearMVP Voting Results: Rodgers - 31, Watt - 13, Romo - 2, Murray - 2, Brady - 1, Wagner (lol...)- 1So Watt got all the votes for DPoY, yet Bobby Wagner somehow got an MVP vote Edited February 1, 2015 by Crazyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 A.A Ron Rodgers won MVPJJ Watt won Defensive Player of the Year (unanimously)DeMarco Murray won Offensive Player of the YearMVP Voting Results: Rodgers - 31, Watt - 13, Romo - 2, Murray - 2, Brady - 1, Wagner (lol...)- 1So Watt got all the votes for DPoY, yet Bobby Wagner somehow got an MVP vote basically what was expected and i think they got it right. also the hall of fame class was a really solid one and im glad tim brown got in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 A.A Ron Rodgers won MVPJJ Watt won Defensive Player of the Year (unanimously)DeMarco Murray won Offensive Player of the YearMVP Voting Results: Rodgers - 31, Watt - 13, Romo - 2, Murray - 2, Brady - 1, Wagner (lol...)- 1So Watt got all the votes for DPoY, yet Bobby Wagner somehow got an MVP vote basically what was expected and i think they got it right. also the hall of fame class was a really solid one and im glad tim brown got in.Indeed. He definitely deserved it.Also, I guess Tony Dungy voted for Bobby Wagner. Someone should take his vote away... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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