Len Cnut Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Quote And everywhere in the world, I didn't see them play Wembley stadium. What, in 1992? thats a quarter of a century ago sunbeam Quote The Who is old fucking band As opposed to GnR, who are fresh faced young teens. Quote they aren't the Stones to go after 50 years and still fill the stadiums No but they are one of the biggest bands in rock history, it goes Beatles, Stones, Who...not my doing, sorry! Quote So their tour is fucking disaster and embarrassment. So I'm told...in South America...meanwhile, in the rest the world Quote Their music is shit and it didn't stand test of the time AC/DC is almost 45 years, Aerosmith 46 years and they still can fill the stadium without any problem wherever the fuck they want so stop defending the band that should've ended in 1982 and never came back. Sorry, explain to me again how filling out stadiums is the exclusive yardstick of your music having stood the test of time? And if their music is so shit and didn't stand the test of time how are they touring at all? Go have a look at their gig list, i think you'll find they've played very frequently in recent years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOGJONES Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, Len Cnut said: No, I'll give them every respect in the world for what they achieved with Appetite, Illusions, that whole era was fantastic...but if you think Chinese Democracys record sales are anything at all to do with anything but the fact people were just curious to see what ginger bollocks had been up to for 17 years then you're mental. And don't take my word for it, read some of the reviews it got. I suppose I made those up as well yeah? The reason you're getting all tarty about it is cuz you know its true Of course it got some bad reviews, but take a look at the reviews on Amazon.com for example, which is not a bad place to get a feel for what people think of an album. The last time I looked it had more reviews than any other GN'R album and was at 4.5 stars. Since we're talking about The Who and GN'R, can't we use the same logic for their last album? People were only interested in it to see what short arse had been up to for the last 24 years? It's a stupid argument, all albums use buzz or whatever to push sales, not sure why you'd use it against the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Quote They are also a bigger draw than The Who in the UK, USA and Europe (where they sold a million tickets in one day). Nothing to do with Axl finally reuniting with Duff and Slash after their on-going 20 year old soap opera though eh? Oh sorry, i forgot, you don't give a flying fuck about the reason why, it's just a fact, sorry sorry, me and my context, it'll lead me to the waters one of these days, sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Guns N' Roses is a younger band that didn't last that long in their first phase but they made it big in a short span of time. There wasn't a Woodstock '69 in the Guns N' Roses decade. In fact, after Guns N' Roses, and the 90's decade gone, rock n' roll pretty much declined as a genre producer of big acts. Guns N' Roses is probably the last biggest band from the times when rock ruled the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, DexAxl said: And everywhere in the world, I didn't see them play Wembley stadium. The Who is old fucking band, they aren't the Stones to go after 50 years and still fill the stadiums. So their tour is fucking disaster and embarrassment. Their music is shit and it didn't stand test of the time AC/DC is almost 45 years, Aerosmith 46 years and they still can fill the stadium without any problem wherever the fuck they want so stop defending the band that should've ended in 1982 and never came back. I'm not wasting my time with this rubbish. Explain to me why Guns N' Roses play about twenty covers in their current setlist and one of them is The Who's, despite their fans wondering why ''they don't play Breakdown or Locomotion?'' Seems GN'R themselves prefer The Who's music over their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOGJONES Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: That is who you are discussing here with The Who, an act who were competing alongside Hendrix, Stones, Beatles etc - and often came out on top. It is just a different plateau from Guns N' Roses. And yet there they are opening for Guns N Roses! You should get in touch and remind them how important they are! 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: I'm not wasting my time with this rubbish. Explain to me why Guns N' Roses play about twenty covers in their current setlist and one of them is The Who's, despite their fans wondering why ''they don't play Breakdown or Locomotion?'' Seems GN'R themselves prefer The Who's music over their own? Hopefully they will play The Locomotion at some point! Edited May 6, 2017 by MADDOGJONES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, MADDOGJONES said: And yet there they are opening for Guns N Roses! You should get in touch and remind them how important they are! Only in South America. South America still likes Motley Crue, Dokkon and Kiss and bands like that. It can not be taken as a barometer of the world who infinitely favour The Who. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOGJONES Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Only in South America. South America still likes Motley Crue, Dokkon and Kiss and bands like that. It can not be taken as a barometer of the world who infinitely favour The Who. GN'R are a bigger draw in the UK, US and Europe. It's just a fact, sorry, the numbers are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Quote Of course it got some bad reviews, but take a look at the reviews on Amazon.com for example, which is not a bad place to get a feel for what people think of an album. The last time I looked it had more reviews than any other GN'R album and was at 4.5 stars. I think that pretty much ends our business here! Why 'of course', you say like it's granted that it would get bad reviews? I wonder why! And I wonder why the ones on Amazon would be good. It's a puzzler innit? Quote Since we're talking about The Who and GN'R, can't we use the same logic for their last album? People were only interested in it to see what short arse had been up to for the last 24 years? Short arse, what, Pete Townshend? And no the same logic doesn't work because it's obvious what Pete and Rog' have been doing because they've been right where they always were, as opposed to Axl who vanished from view, Christ, are you the GnR fan here or am I, have you not been following? Quote It's a stupid argument, all albums use buzz or whatever to push sales, not sure why you'd use it against the record. Because there is a massive curiosity around a band that stopped at it's peak and then releases another album after 17 years with the lead singer having disappeared from view in that time, how is that using it against the band, it's the reason it got so many sales...and then it was a load of bollocks, this was all said in response to your attempting to colour Chi Dem as some kind of titanic album that sold millions and millions of records cuz it was so fantastic when, actually, it was a bag of shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, killuridols said: Guns N' Roses is a younger band that didn't last that long in their first phase but they made it big in a short span of time. There wasn't a Woodstock '69 in the Guns N' Roses decade. In fact, after Guns N' Roses, and the 90's decade gone, rock n' roll pretty much declined as a genre producer of big acts. Guns N' Roses is probably the last biggest band from the times when rock ruled the world. Rock n Roll declined well before 1987 dear, unless we're talking about record sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexAxl Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I'm not wasting my time with this rubbish. Explain to me why Guns N' Roses play about twenty covers in their current setlist and one of them is The Who's, despite their fans wondering why ''they don't play Breakdown or Locomotion?'' Seems GN'R themselves prefer The Who's music over their own? Do you mean that song that no GNR fan cares about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, DexAxl said: Do you mean that song that no GNR fan cares about? And they pay for the privilege Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOGJONES Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Len Cnut said: I think that pretty much ends our business here! Why 'of course', you say like it's granted that it would get bad reviews? I wonder why! And I wonder why the ones on Amazon would be good. It's a puzzler innit? Short arse, what, Pete Townshend? And no the same logic doesn't work because it's obvious what Pete and Rog' have been doing because they've been right where they always were, as opposed to Axl who vanished from view, Christ, are you the GnR fan here or am I, have you not been following? Because there is a massive curiosity around a band that stopped at it's peak and then releases another album after 17 years with the lead singer having disappeared from view in that time, how is that using it against the band, it's the reason it got so many sales...and then it was a load of bollocks, this was all said in response to your attempting to colour Chi Dem as some kind of titanic album that sold millions and millions of records cuz it was so fantastic when, actually, it was a bag of shite. I'm sorry that you incorrectly thought The Who were a bigger draw than GN'R, but you should just accept that as true (as it clearly is) and get on with your day, instead of moving the goal posts all the time and talking nonsense. GN'R are a bigger draw than The Who in all major markets... Latin America, North America and Europe.... they are the bigger band. Obviously, no? Unless, headliners now play before the support act? Let's hope this tour goes well! Maybe GN'R will let them open for them at Wembley Stadium or something in future, I'm sure it'd be great for The Who to play to audiences that size again (god bless them). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 9 minutes ago, MADDOGJONES said: GN'R are a bigger draw in the UK, US and Europe. It's just a fact, sorry, the numbers are there. GN'R were playing a casino two years ago. 7 minutes ago, DexAxl said: Do you mean that song that no GNR fan cares about? I wouldn't want to put words into their mouths but clearly GN'R themselves care about The Seeker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOGJONES Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: GN'R were playing a casino two years ago. Yeah, that's right! I forgot about that, just next to the buffet table and 1 cent slot machines, right? Edited May 6, 2017 by MADDOGJONES 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: GN'R were playing a casino two years ago. The Who are playing American HOTELS in 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOGJONES Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 1 minute ago, killuridols said: The Who are playing American HOTELS in 2017 They're playing jingles for new guests as they enter. Roger is hard apparently, so he'll help them with their luggage too (if needs be). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Quote I'm sorry that you incorrectly thought The Who were a bigger draw than GN'R, Apology accepted though i said bigger band, which they are and always will be. Quote and get on with your day, It's night time, have you not noticed? Quote instead of moving the goal posts all the time and talking nonsense. What, you mean like narrowing down rock history to the year 2017? You're right, only a dickhead would do that Quote GN'R are a bigger draw than The Who in all major markets... Latin America, North America and Europe.... they are the bigger band. Obviously, no? Unless, headliners now play before the support act? I don't doubt it's been a banner year! 3 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: GN'R were playing a casino two years ago. Then they'd tried to be all Malcolm McLaren-ish like 'hey, our audiences are like movers and shakers, tastemakers'...and ended up playing in a half empty fashion boutique Oh yeah and Rosario Dawsons birthday party, whooo hoooo! Just now, MADDOGJONES said: Roger is hard apparently, Well, for as long as you're not around to wind his neck in for him eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, MADDOGJONES said: Yeah, that's right! I forgot about that, just next to the buffet table and 1 cent slot machines, right? Pretty much. Axl was flying in their air on a piano with casino related motifs. The crowds were full of drunken tourists. Apparently the coins were made into specialised 'gnr' coins. It was unbelievably abject and naff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOGJONES Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Pretty much. Axl was flying in their air on a piano with casino related motifs. The crowds were full of drunken tourists. Apparently the coins were made into specialised 'gnr' coins. It was unbelievably abject and naff. Will you be catching any of The Who's lobby shows at the Ibis? Great chance to see a legendary band "up close and personal". I think you get a free breakfast and cup of tea with every ticket too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADDOGJONES Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Pretty much. Axl was flying in their air on a piano with casino related motifs. The crowds were full of drunken tourists. Apparently the coins were made into specialised 'gnr' coins. It was unbelievably abject and naff. That's doesn't sound anything at all like the Las Vegas I know, what the hell got into them? Bringing all that naff shit to a classy town like Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Funny how the only place on earth this conversation could take place and there be anyone claiming GnR the bigger band is on a GnR forum. Weird eh? Just now, MADDOGJONES said: That's doesn't sound anything at all like the Las Vegas I know, what the hell got into them? Bringing all that naff shit to a classy town like Vegas. You're making his point for him, you know that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, MADDOGJONES said: Will you be catching any of The Who's lobby shows at the Ibis? Great chance to see a legendary band "up close and personal". I think you get a free breakfast and cup of tea with every ticket too. Date City Country Venue Opening acts Attendance Revenue North American Tour 2017 13 July 2017 Quebec Canada Festival d’Été de Québec — — — 16 July 2017 Canandaigua United States CMAC — — — 18 July 2017 National Harbor MGM National Harbor — — — 20 July 2017 Uncasville Mohegan Sun Arena — — — 22 July 2017 Atlantic City Boardwalk Hall — — — 25 July 2017 Grand Rapids Van Andel Arena — — — 29 July 2017 Las Vegas The Colosseum at Caesars Palace — — — 1 August 2017 4 August 2017 7 August 2017 9 August 2017 11 August 2017 13 August 2017 San Francisco Outside Lands Festival — — — 16 August 2017 Stateline Lake Tahoe Outdoor Arena at Harveys — — — Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, MADDOGJONES said: Will you be catching any of The Who's lobby shows at the Ibis? Great chance to see a legendary band "up close and personal". I think you get a free breakfast and cup of tea with every ticket too. Last time The Who came to my town they were playing an arena and were charging £80. I didn't go but it was a sell out, just as the time before that was also sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 I ain't listened to anything The Who have done since Moonie died...nor have I ever been to one of their gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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