Ratam Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, jafeijo said: It's really just sad, we're so hopeless regarding this elections, Bolsonaro literally has an army, no matter how exposed he's been, no matter how shit of a human being he is. On the other hand, Fernando Haddad's party has built a massive bad rep from corruption scandals, and although their government made very important social improvements (probably the best government ever), people just won't buy it anymore. All things considered, I don't feel bad for myself because I'm actually on the privileged piece, I fear for those who have nothing and will have to stand through a autoritarian government. i also can find an explanation than poor people vote Bolsonaro too, and women's and black people too...They vote worst enemy to they❓is terrible too than evangelist church had such influence on millons of people, many them are poor's ,ignorant people. I hope the best to Brazilnot Bolsonaro. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 18 hours ago, junior201 said: He is not at all what they are saying, they are wanting to deconstruct his image because he will end the hegemony of the socialist left here in Brazil. And the people will vote for him because he is tired of these corrupt and destructive governments of the left. I'm from Brazil and he defends torture, he said that gays should be beaten, that woman should be paid less than men and that black people were just a dead weight! Bolsonaro is a military from the extreme right wing, so you can only imagine his toughts and what he intend to do to our people. This is the worst thing that could happen to Brazil, but we are doomed anyway, both parties are corrupt. But Bolsonaro pledges for violence, there is already people being killed and beaten (mostly gays and black people) because his voters think now they are allowed to do it. He intends to allow common people to have guns at their homes, but we are not educated enough to deal with the responsibilities of having a gun. So, we are already fearing for a civil war and the increase of violence in the streets. Brazil is divided, and I think Axl and the GNR camp will choose to be quiet (for now) about the matter. It's better to stay neutral because they will bring a tsunami of hate feedback from both parties. Those are dark days coming to our people, with the eminent danger for many of us to be tortured and to disappear in case we don't agree or comply with a military system. Brazil is at the brink of a violent military dictatorship, worst than the ones faced by Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Yes, he's going to stand on some banana crates with a black beret with the star of La Revolucion on it and read his 12 point socialist manifesto of revolt out to the people of Sao Paolo and stand before them as take their flaming torches and storm the Bastillie together. Right, banana creates! Because we are monkeys to you, right? Oh, I know a spanish word "La Revolucion", because in Brazil they speak spanish, right? Oh, and we have flaming torches, because we are irrational beasts and we burn houses in search of werewolves and Frankstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Quote Right, banana creates! Because we are monkeys to you, right? No, banana crates because I was thinking about Fyffes bananas at the the time, the crates that were used in England in Hyde Park to stand upon when making speeches I could've been thinkin' about peaches, plums apples and pears but I was thinking about bananas, as that is among the most popular fruits where I'm from. Quote Oh, I know a spanish word "La Revolucion", because in Brazil they speak spanish, right? No boss, I was making light of the manner of armchair socialists who stumble behind the archetype of what they believe Che Guevera was like Quote Oh, and we have flaming torches, because we are irrational beasts and we burn houses in search of werewolves and Frankstein. No, i said flaming torches because that was what was used when the Bastille was stormed, it was clearly a reference to the French, not the Brazillian, hence the reference to the Bastille which, with respect, does not refer to the Brazilian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: No, banana crates because I was thinking about Fyffes bananas at the the time, the crates that were used in England in Hyde Park to stand upon when making speeches I could've been thinkin' about peaches, plums apples and pears but I was thinking about bananas, as that is among the most popular fruits where I'm from. No boss, I was making light of the manner of armchair socialists who stumble behind the archetype of what they believe Che Guevera was like No, i said flaming torches because that was what was used when the Bastille was stormed, it was clearly a reference to the French, not the Brazillian, hence the reference to the Bastille which, with respect, does not refer to the Brazilian. You know what they say: "if you have to explain a joke..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Legendador said: You know what they say: "if you have to explain a joke..." Yes I do, they say 'those who leap in with their own interpretation tell more about themselves than they do about the joke'. Thank you. Edited October 24, 2018 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Yes I do, they say 'those who leap in with their own interpretation tell more about themselves than they do about the joke'. Thank you. I bet you are jerking off watching yourself in the mirror, aren't you? Naughty-self-centered-think-you-talk-like-a-stupid-know-it-all boy. Edited October 24, 2018 by Legendador Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, Legendador said: I bet you are jerking off watching yourself in the mirror, aren't you? Naughty-self-centered-think-you-talk-like-a-stupid-know-it-all boy. no , i'm jerkin off thinkin' of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: no , i'm jerkin off thinkin' of you Wow, as a gay man, that's a compliment. Thanks bro! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Legendador said: Wow, as a gay man, that's a compliment. Thanks bro! You’re welcome sunbeam 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 To answer the original question. Axl could say something if he wants to. But I don't think it's his moral duty. He is not Brazilian nor he has ever lived in Brazil. As far as we know he goes to Brazil only when he has a show to perform. Beta and Fernando could be concerned because they are Brazilians. And this eventual new president could have an impact on their relatives way of life there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Oldest Goat said: "S-Some of my favourite fruits are bananas!" Typical. Racist. Leonard. @ludurigan@Legendador (and any other Brazilians) Sounds like you guys are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Really sorry to hear this.@junior201 why do you think 'the left' would want to turn folks gay? That's it, both parties are horrible, but the right-extremists are the worst ones and they are putting people's lives in dangerous. Can you believe that Brazil is one of the most racist and homophobic countries in the world? Edited October 25, 2018 by Legendador mispelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 14 hours ago, Len Cnut said: You’re welcome sunbeam Rise and shine, moonbean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Oldest Goat said: "S-Some of my favourite fruits are bananas!" Typical. Racist. Leonard. @ludurigan@Legendador (and any other Brazilians) Sounds like you guys are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Really sorry to hear this.@junior201 why do you think 'the left' would want to turn folks gay? we are stuck between these: Fernando Haddad, a leftist candidate that is a democrat, civilized person from a party that has been heavily involved in corruption. remember that that doesn't mean he is a corrupt Jair Bolsonaro, a right-wing military extremist who openly advocates torture, illegal killings, elimination (cleansing) of adversaries, and who openly considers women, blacks, gays, people from the Northeast region etc, poor etc to be second class citizens there is a clear choice to be made here 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 56 minutes ago, ludurigan said: we are stuck between these: Fernando Haddad, a leftist candidate that is a democrat, civilized person from a party that has been heavily involved in corruption. remember that that doesn't mean he is a corrupt Jair Bolsonaro, a right-wing military extremist who openly advocates torture, illegal killings, elimination (cleansing) of adversaries, and who openly considers women, blacks, gays, people from the Northeast region etc, poor etc to be second class citizens there is a clear choice to be made here Isn't there a traditional center right party? I'm asking because you mentioned a socialdemocrat party and a far right party. There should be other alternatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said: It's messed up. The Catholic church is partly to blame with their insane anti-gay teachings they've spread around South America and the rest of the world. I absolutely agree. It's a disgraceful shame many of your people apparently can't/won't see it. For what it's worth you're welcome in my country. Here in Brazil we have a more evil parasite, the pentecostal and evangelical churches, they are the ones funding Bolsonaro's campaing. Edited October 26, 2018 by Legendador mispelling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I heard today on my local radio an journalist talked than the door of the house where live an gay guy was to print an swastika for Bolsonaro followers😨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Padme said: Isn't there a traditional center right party? I'm asking because you mentioned a socialdemocrat party and a far right party. There should be other alternatives YES, there are several alternatives, but only these two candidates made it to the second turn The main center-right party is PSDB (social-democrat party, some say they are center and not so right), and it has been one of the two main political forces in the country for the last 20-30 years, but their candidate received truly poor voting on first turn of the elections about 18 days ago. There are other center-right and liberal candidates from the right spectrum that also received even less votes. i truly don't like and don't believe any of these right or center right parties but i would vote for them in a second without any hesitation if they were up against Jair Bolsonaro, you know? they are civilized democratic parties that "play the game by its rules" and they dont advocate hate, violence, killing, torture nor elimination (cleansing) of adversaries Edited October 26, 2018 by ludurigan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Legendador said: Here in Brazil we have a more evil parasite, the pentecostal and evangelical churches, they are the ones funding Bolsonaro's campaing. exactly not only funding but spreading the most absurd lies to its followers these lies include: - the "gay kit" lie - the leftist candidate advocates incest and pedophilia - the leftist candidate wants to give "erotic baby bottles" (with a penis-like nozzle) to babies that spend the day in government day-care centers so they can become gay when they grow up etc etc mind you that some tens of millions of the evangelical faithful in Brazil are poor people who had little access to quality education and they are easy prey to these lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Ratam said: I heard today on my local radio an journalist talked than the door of the house where live an gay guy was to print an swastika for Bolsonaro followers😨 yes right after the first turn of the election there were several episodes of violence and attacks from Bolsonaro followers registered all over the country, including the assassination of an old musician in Bahia in a bar, apparently because he voted for the left candidate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, ludurigan said: YES, there are several alternatives, but only these two candidates made it to the second turn The main center-right party is PSDB (social-democrat party, some say they are center and not so right), and it has been one of the two main political forces in the country for the last 20-30 years, but their candidate received truly poor voting on first turn of the elections about 18 days ago. There are other center-right and liberal candidates from the right spectrum that also received even less votes. i truly don't like and don't believe any of these right or center right parties but i would vote for them in a second without any hesitation if they were up against Jair Bolsonaro, you know? they are civilized democratic parties that "play the game by its rules" and they dont advocate hate, violence, killing, torture nor elimination (cleansing) of adversaries Thanks. What about Congress and the Supreme Court? They can always stop madness if they do their job. And there is also the establishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Axl and this fucker will get along famously. Right wing dictators a go go.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 8 hours ago, ludurigan said: yes right after the first turn of the election there were several episodes of violence and attacks from Bolsonaro followers registered all over the country, including the assassination of an old musician in Bahia in a bar, apparently because he voted for the left candidate Here we have too evangelistic church , most followers are poor's people without education, this people have attraction for irrational speech, this is attractive to weak minds,here the catholic church is mayority, but them are bother because evangelistic church have more followers anyday now and catholic church is in dismish now, is an power issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I didn't know you were from Brazil @ludurigan.... I woulda sworn you were from the USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 13 hours ago, ludurigan said: exactly not only funding but spreading the most absurd lies to its followers these lies include: - the "gay kit" lie - the leftist candidate advocates incest and pedophilia - the leftist candidate wants to give "erotic baby bottles" (with a penis-like nozzle) to babies that spend the day in government day-care centers so they can become gay when they grow up etc etc mind you that some tens of millions of the evangelical faithful in Brazil are poor people who had little access to quality education and they are easy prey to these lies Unfortunately there's no easy prey in Brazil, everybody has access to information, they just chose not to believe in it and something they are even forced to vote by militia, colonels, the crime mob. The country is a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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