phaeryen Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Richard Fortus is, was, and will always be one of the best showmen and guitarists out there. When I saw this performance I was taken back by his stage presence. Also looking back, Axl did not sound as bad as everyone made it out to be. Also, I bet if he wasn't with braids, and had his look now, he would have been judged much more differently. But you know what, kudos to Axl for looking however the fuck he wanted to look, and bringing out characters like Bucket and Finck with no regards what anyone would think. That my friends is true rock n roll.dude, thats like a triple fail or something.axl sounded whiny and pathetic.and how the band looked back then, it was a very planned thing, in my opinion. he was going for the comic book looking band thing, which would have been iconic if the music had worked & the band stayed together.check out U2 'Pop' era. he picked the general idea up from there among other sources I would suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auad Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Richard Fortus is, was, and will always be one of the best showmen and guitarists out there. When I saw this performance I was taken back by his stage presence. Also looking back, Axl did not sound as bad as everyone made it out to be. Also, I bet if he wasn't with braids, and had his look now, he would have been judged much more differently. But you know what, kudos to Axl for looking however the fuck he wanted to look, and bringing out characters like Bucket and Finck with no regards what anyone would think. That my friends is true rock n roll.dude, thats like a triple fail or something.axl sounded whiny and pathetic.and how the band looked back then, it was a very planned thing, in my opinion. he was going for the comic book looking band thing, which would have been iconic if the music had worked & the band stayed together.check out U2 'Pop' era. he picked the general idea up from there among other sources I would suspect.would have been iconic if the music had worked & the band stayed together[2] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmygod Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Richard Fortus is, was, and will always be one of the best showmen and guitarists out there. When I saw this performance I was taken back by his stage presence. Also looking back, Axl did not sound as bad as everyone made it out to be. Also, I bet if he wasn't with braids, and had his look now, he would have been judged much more differently. But you know what, kudos to Axl for looking however the fuck he wanted to look, and bringing out characters like Bucket and Finck with no regards what anyone would think. That my friends is true rock n roll.dude, thats like a triple fail or something.axl sounded whiny and pathetic.and how the band looked back then, it was a very planned thing, in my opinion. he was going for the comic book looking band thing, which would have been iconic if the music had worked & the band stayed together.check out U2 'Pop' era. he picked the general idea up from there among other sources I would suspect.You see things your way, I see them my way....:-) Edited August 30, 2012 by ohmygod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 If I remember correctly I discovered Madagascar through this performance.I loved it then and I love it now.That scream is at the beginning of Jungle was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Axl did not sound that bad. Buckethead + Finck = A W E S O M E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuneo77 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 it was ok, wttj was ok,madagascar was great, pc was ok,some parts sounded bad towards the end. but i still feel the curent is the best lineup since the illusion lineup and hope they get to release music together to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 The closest I ever came to dropping this band completely was this atrocious shithole of a performance. This is how you do pathetic right. In retrospect, it's probably the only reason I'm still a fan today. As bad as Axl has been for the last year, he hasn't dug down deep to reach the level of pure suck that he did with this travesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I thought the rio jungle was worse than the VMA one. Atleast at the VMA's he didn't look like a duck. The VMA paradise city is undoubtably the worst though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I still don't see what was so special about this Madagascar. One of the best televised performances of any song in GNR history? Someone explain this to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblecool Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 This performance of WTTJ is better than any 2012 version,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNxB6JerobI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcountry Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I remember that night waiting on the VMA show ,which sucked ass to get to the end just for GNR moment.Opening scream was fantastic.He did get out of breath alot. But if you watch you can see that when he messes with his ear monitor is when he gets out of breath and I think that was just him forgetting to breath. At one point you can see him messing with it and see him look off to his left like he was pissed.I think for PC his ear monitor was still fucked and he couldn't hear himself. I also agree that the way he sung Maddy was so much better than the final version.Not making excuses just pointing out the obvious. No matter who you look at it is was great to see GNR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 i was in florida watching it on tv, it was so fucking cool, yeah axls voice was shit(until maddy) but the energy and the excitement made up for it, axl looked like he was ready to conquer the world again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 i kept imagining about a madagascar music video forr some weeks after VMAs. how naive, but i was a big fan ten years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 i kept imagining about a madagascar music video forr some weeks after VMAs. how naive, but i was a big fan ten years ago.Disappointment lead to resentment. I wish I was around back then and could have told you that it wouldn't happen and that you should turn your expectations down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayGatz Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 IMO that preformance of Madagascar is the best preformance GnR has ever ever done on live tv. Ha, no.The whole Ritz show was on tv, the two songs on that late night show in 88 were also better, not to mention the kickass WTTJ at the VMAs in 88. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketQueenGNR Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 How funny, all these positive reactions about this performance... I can remember back then that a lot of people were complaining about him being fat, out of shape, bad voice, the line-up, etc... And now everyone likes it? They don't know what they've got till it's gone. It's like the 2010 concerts, I can't remember people being so excited about them back in 2010... And the recent European tour will be praised in a few years, too. I guess it is the knee-jerk response that everything GN'R does must be criticised, but hindsight is 20/20.Exactly this. 10 years from now a 60 year-old Axl (provided God-willing he's still around and active) will more than likely be heavier and have a weaker voice than now and people will be waxing poetic about 2012 when he was 50 and had "more energy". Just enjoy and absorb it all why you can. '92 and '02 ain't comin' back... and '12 won't be here forever either... IMO that preformance of Madagascar is the best preformance GnR has ever ever done on live tv. Ha, no.The whole Ritz show was on tv, the two songs on that late night show in 88 were also better, not to mention the kickass WTTJ at the VMAs in 88.It's about Madagascar, not about WTTJ or PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auad Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 IMO that preformance of Madagascar is the best preformance GnR has ever ever done on live tv. Ha, no.The whole Ritz show was on tv, the two songs on that late night show in 88 were also better, not to mention the kickass WTTJ at the VMAs in 88.WTTJ at the VMAs in 88...fuckin good performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiannaRose Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Energy: Off the radar.Performance: Atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 IMO that preformance of Madagascar is the best preformance GnR has ever ever done on live tv. Ha, no.The whole Ritz show was on tv, the two songs on that late night show in 88 were also better, not to mention the kickass WTTJ at the VMAs in 88.WTTJ at the VMAs in 88...fuckin good performance!That opening scream from 1988 was just inhuman...gives me chills to listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 This performance of WTTJ is better than any 2012 version,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNxB6JerobI That's a great performance of WTTJ. Axl was great, LOL @ the replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcountry Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 IMO that preformance of Madagascar is the best preformance GnR has ever ever done on live tv. Ha, no.The whole Ritz show was on tv, the two songs on that late night show in 88 were also better, not to mention the kickass WTTJ at the VMAs in 88.WTTJ at the VMAs in 88...fuckin good performance!That opening scream from 1988 was just inhuman...gives me chills to listen to it.I agree the opening scream was great but Axl's voice was ruff that night but very powerful.But the band was not very tight that night, I thought Slash fucked the solo up bad.The only reason I say this about Slash is he did suck that night but if any of the new members fuck up, then all the assholes here just rip them to pieces.It's like there is a double standard for the old band and the new band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 But the band was not very tight that night, I thought Slash fucked the solo up bad.I just watched the 1988 VMA performance and it was literally only one bum note so I don't know if I would call that "fucking the solo up bad". And I also thought it was a great performance overallAs for the 2002 VMA's, the band sounded good but Axl 's voice was totally gone with the exception of Madagascar. At least the performance was interesting to watch, Axl's voice aside - although I am still curious as to why Fallon said they were "taking requests" when they just did a pre-planned medley of tunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaida Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 The VMA medley seemed too ambitious for Axl's vocal stamina. Buckethead stole the show. The only thing I ever found interesting about new GN'R was Buckethead, and he was never very GN'R. Robin had his moments too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadedNightraiN Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 although I am still curious as to why Fallon said they were "taking requests" when they just did a pre-planned medley of tunesI think because he said that because they were doing the medley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liers Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 IMO that preformance of Madagascar is the best preformance GnR has ever ever done on live tv. Ha, no.The whole Ritz show was on tv, the two songs on that late night show in 88 were also better, not to mention the kickass WTTJ at the VMAs in 88.You need to think of the time and the setting of the preformance. GnR had just returned into the spotlight. New York had just been torn apart less than a year ago by the September 11th attacks. GnR comes out and preforms madagascar, which is a good song for both the 911 attacks and what axl went through with the old band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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