Rovim Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Philipm787 said: 7 minutes ago, Philipm787 said: Could you explain to us less well informed how Chinese is 'very rock n roll?' Could you explain to us less well informed how Chinese is 'very rock n roll?' He doesn't give a fuck 'bout bedouins cause he's crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipm787 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rovim said: He doesn't give a fuck 'bout bedouins cause he's crazy. Out of interest, which Guns album do you prefer, Chinese or Appetite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Philipm787 said: Out of interest, which Guns album do you prefer, Chinese or Appetite? If it's a wedding and you want folks to shake their asses, always go with Chinese. Appetite is more for when I'm on sex vacations. Shackler's great for pumping yourself up before you fire someone. Edited March 10, 2016 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipm787 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, Rovim said: If it's a wedding and you want folks to shake their asses, always go with Chinese. Appetite is more for when I'm on sex vacations. Shackler's great for pumping yourself up before you fire someone. Asked for a preference, not a shocking analogy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dude Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 What if Axl were to fire Slash before the reunion and bring in another childhood friend to take his spot. You gotta admit, that would be cool. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Philipm787 said: Asked for a preference, not a shocking analogy. It's like sportsmanship. Sometimes it depends on my mood. Edited March 10, 2016 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipm787 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, Rovim said: It's like sportsmanship. Sometimes it depends on my mood. Okay, that just about answers the lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVEMBER COMA Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 20 hours ago, wasted said: I'm not sure CD was compilation. It sounds like that maybe because it was recorded over a longer period but also has different styles and unusual scope. But lyrically maybe the songs are in a group according to theme. There is a theory it was seen as stand alone and there were other tracks but only Atlas was considered for CD. So there were these guitar driven tracks and more heavy electronica tracks at some point. But also Fortus was writing with them for another seperate record (rumor) None of which is really been talked about. We talk about the second half of Chinese which are songs from the 26 that were finished in 2006, 14 of which are CD. Thematically they are about petty dictators, Axl's struggles with CD and those connected with GNR. It's a spiritual album without going religious I think Axl said. Axl didn't want Bucket's porn associated with the record, that's why I think Silkworms isn't on it. There's a whole another record which nastier and meaner, maybe a liitle more like UYI. So I think the material is split more thematically than sonically. That's why you have songs from 1994, 98, 2000, 2004 with different productions on the same album. Beavan claimed most of Axl's vocals were from around 2000. So it's about that late 90s fallout. But that doesn't mean that in that recording process they weren't writing more electronica based stuff or hard rock things or Axl was writing more fucked up lyrics. I feel like Axl was over it before he brought in the horns for Madagascar but he was still held back by the weight of the name and getting the material out in successful way. CD is Axl's side of the story, the feud or whatever. In my opinion. All this is conjecture/fantasy but it's what I've got as just a fan following it. Buckethead Porn?? Cool that guy was strange enough (skilled none the less) but now he has he own porn genre. Love it. Wasn't Silkworms Dizzy & Pittman?? Thought they wrote the lyrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVEMBER COMA Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 20 hours ago, Apollo said: Lol. So CD and Spaghetti didn't "get the respect they deserved." So albums 20 years apart, with two completely different bands, are unfairly judged by fans and critics? Or maybe people have different musical taste and preference than you do. And the fact that CD and SI both pretty much tanked in comparison to GnR's first four albums might have something to do with it as well. Lol. Didn't get the respect they deserved. Unfairly reviewed. Sometimes this forum cracks me up. Glad I can still make people laugh. It's always been a gift. Both great albums in their own right. Maybe I'm too much of a fan in the fact that I am hardly negative about gnr at all especially their releases. Appetite & The Illusions are superior but I have listened to Jungle 12 times this week, you have to throw in Human Being or Hair Of The Dog occasionally. & yes, Sympathy single was wicked, better than the stones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bards Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I'd much rather have the CD2 tracks and whatever else from the NuGuns era released as a "lost tapes" collection or as part of a box set or what have you. Just get Axl, Slash and Duff in a room together and let them hash out one or two ideas. Split royalties 33.3 each. Boom. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 hour ago, NOVEMBER COMA said: Buckethead Porn?? Cool that guy was strange enough (skilled none the less) but now he has he own porn genre. Love it. Wasn't Silkworms Dizzy & Pittman?? Thought they wrote the lyrics I cross referencee two things. Remember the story when Axl built a chicken coop for Bucket in the studio and Bucket was watching porn and flinging his cum around and Axl brought his wolf down to the studio? Axl told Bucket to get the porn out of the studio as its not what he want associated with his record. I kind of took that idea and wondered if thats why Silkworms isnt on CD, because the lyrics dont fit the righteous geopolitical slant of CD. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkaruFunk Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 10 hours ago, wasted said: Bucket was watching porn and flinging his cum around and Axl brought his wolf down to the studio? Wait, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 On 08/03/2016 at 6:12 PM, SoundOfAGun said: This is the path they should take. "Tinkering" with a mixed song always ends with a mess, I have tried to impart new production skills on old mixes and it is a bit like trying pull the bottom section out of a Jenga stack without it falling over - yes now the guitars sound crisper, but the low mids you cut have revealed some unpleasant bass noise, so you fix that and then your kick drum loses its power and on it goes - a mix that has had any amount of time invested in it that you are happy with at some point in time should be left as exactly that, music from a point in time. Axl should shovel his leftovers out under his own name. He finally has at least some of the people who helped create their finest music back in fold. He shouldn't squander that on the songs that weren't good enough for CD. Not good enough for CD isn't how Axl see's it. Atlas was intended for CD but got bumped due to time limitations, and what he and the label felt were the right 14 songs together as a package. We haven't heard it, it may be a great track! I think it's crazy to be dismissive of the track(s) before actually listening to anything. I also think it's pretty far fetched thus far, msl source is a "Slash insider"... Alt nation just quoted msls rumour, there's no concrete evidence to suggest there's any work happening besides rehearsals for a tour. Not out of the realms of possibility that Slash works in CD songs but I'd like to see something more substantial, from a more reliable source before deciding this is actually happening. I'd be interested in hearing Slash's contribution to CD material though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 27 minutes ago, IkaruFunk said: Wait, what? Google, bucket head chicken coup, porn. There was a great classic rock story written in like 06/07 about all this. Basically bucket recorded his parts in a chicken coup in the studio (Axl had it built) and watched porn to get inspired. Axl had wolf pups and brought them down to the studio, one of them took a dump in buckets chicken coup... Bucket gets inspired by the smell of the dog shit/porn. It's a whole thing, worth searching for the full story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 If it comes from MSL, it's most likely bullshit. Remember? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Rustycage said: If it comes from MSL, it's most likely bullshit. Remember? That's the worst case of photoshop attempt to be real than i ever seen. Edited March 11, 2016 by Russel Nash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofnazareth Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 20 hours ago, Mr. Dude said: What if Axl were to fire Slash before the reunion and bring in another childhood friend to take his spot. You gotta admit, that would be cool. If Axl fired Slash and a revived Jimi Hendrix took his spot, that would be cool...but not as good as the original 5 getting back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkaruFunk Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 51 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Google, bucket head chicken coup, porn. There was a great classic rock story written in like 06/07 about all this. Basically bucket recorded his parts in a chicken coup in the studio (Axl had it built) and watched porn to get inspired. Axl had wolf pups and brought them down to the studio, one of them took a dump in buckets chicken coup... Bucket gets inspired by the smell of the dog shit/porn. It's a whole thing, worth searching for the full story! Yeah I know that story, just forgot about the wolves and shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, NOVEMBER COMA said: Glad I can still make people laugh. It's always been a gift. Both great albums in their own right. Maybe I'm too much of a fan in the fact that I am hardly negative about gnr at all especially their releases. Appetite & The Illusions are superior but I have listened to Jungle 12 times this week, you have to throw in Human Being or Hair Of The Dog occasionally. & yes, Sympathy single was wicked, better than the stones. No worries. Sometimes people give too much value to their own personal preference. I personally love CD. I listen to it more than I listen to either Illusion. But rationally I know that the rest of the rock world doesn't share my opinion and it's mostly seen as a failure. I can't say it doesn't get the respect it deserves because everything "is" what it "is." I love the album, most people didn't. That's just the facts. I also personally hate SFTD. I would put it as one of GnR's five worst songs and thing it's bonkers to say it's better than the Stones original version. You feel otherwise. Music is all about personal preference bro. Nothing is overrated or underrated. Everything gets the respect or disrespect it deserves. Just because We love or hate something doesn't change the overall value/opinion of a song or album. 1 hour ago, Tom2112 said: Google, bucket head chicken coup, porn. There was a great classic rock story written in like 06/07 about all this. Basically bucket recorded his parts in a chicken coup in the studio (Axl had it built) and watched porn to get inspired. Axl had wolf pups and brought them down to the studio, one of them took a dump in buckets chicken coup... Bucket gets inspired by the smell of the dog shit/porn. It's a whole thing, worth searching for the full story! I think the line "flinging his cum around" is the line that stuck out in terms of things we hadn't heard before. Edited March 11, 2016 by Apollo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 21 hours ago, Mr. Dude said: What if Axl were to fire Slash before the reunion and bring in another childhood friend to take his spot. You gotta admit, that would be cool. Imagine if Axl and The Beta were using this situation to do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 hours ago, sonofnazareth said: If Axl fired Slash and a revived Jimi Hendrix took his spot, that would be cool...but not as good as the original 5 getting back together. There would be NOTHING cooler in Rock N' Roll than the original 5 getting back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofnazareth Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 22 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: There would be NOTHING cooler in Rock N' Roll than the original 5 getting back together. true. I can't stand Ferrer..Fortus is ok, but he's no Izzy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 54 minutes ago, sonofnazareth said: true. I can't stand Ferrer..Fortus is ok, but he's no Izzy. Same on Frank.. Fortus is like you said ok.. A little too much of a show boat for a rhythm guitarist and tries to get cute with the songs at times.. Neither of which Gilby did and I think that is why he fit in so well. Where's Izzy!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) On 10 March 2016 at 0:43 AM, Rovim said: The most appropriate thing will probably be to release it untouched and work on something new, but he added Bumble on top of Bucket, replaced "Brian May" with Bumble and really has no problem with trying everything. If Slash is at his disposal which he is, there is nothing that makes me believe he won't use him on material he believes in, just trying to see if he can improve it. It's just a guess of course. If Axl is interested in releasing another record, I'm guessing it will be the best ideas from Slash, Fortus, CD ll material which is also interesting. Even less cohesive. I was thinking how do you make a bigger record than CD, with more scope, the next big GNR record has to be huge. And bring back Slash and Duff just adds another layer or dimension. Imagine CD with YCBM, Don't Cry and Civil War added. With maybe a Duff punk song and Izzy acoustic. Chinese Democracy You Could Be Mine Better Street of Dreams Patience There was a Time Catcher in the Rye Get in the Ring Riad N the Bedouins Don't Cry IRS Civil War This I Love Coma Edited March 11, 2016 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) I think Slash comes with many musical advantages over any other guitar player just cause it's Guns and Axl. It just won't be the same cause Axl said it was "done". Like the vision came together with those players. Musically it's been said, just not heard by us. Not sure what I prefer. Bottom line is as long as he'll actually release another album I trust that he'll use the right pieces to form the Gn'R puzzle. It will probably get a boost in the more rocking shit from Slash and Duff. I don't know what's more interesting to me: CD ll untouched, or buttfucked by everyone. And also, I feel like if CD ll really is a double album, there are potentially more rocking tunes that just didn't get the chance to be released. Slash can bring his thing to it though and that's hard to resist. The Use Your Illusion line up kinda but with a musical direction this time, Axl's tinkering mostly covered. I trust Axl to bring it to a high standard of quality, just not sure about him actually releasing it. Edited March 13, 2016 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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