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Hasn't Duff said that Axl loves cardio exercise?

The Illusion albums are my fav GN'R records

I want bluesy rock. But I'll gladly take what they give

I understand why a lot of fans have been critical about Duff lately but it was only a few short years ago that Duff was viewed as the MVP of Guns N' Roses in mending things with Axl and Slash. I know the Izzy situation and how Duff has commented about it and other things has been divisive but I still appreciate Duff and I agree with him 100% about social media being poisonous. Good things can come from social media but there's a lot of bad to it as well

I wonder what goes through Axl's head when he (and others, but he's the main driving force behind it) write all these songs, most are probably at least great, and he just sits on them for years. Is this just more evidence that Axl really simply doesn't care about certain things (like glory and adoration or attention)? Or more evidence he is pretty sensitive to how stuff he makes is received? Does he think these songs aren't up to snuff or did the ChiDem album reception just make him not care about giving more music to many people who won't appreciate it?

When Brian Wilson released Smile decades after it was intended to release, didn't he include a lot of different takes of the songs? I feel like there's a great potential for Axl to do something similar with ChiDem era stuff.

Wow this is crazy because when it comes to the mythical unreleased GNR songs I want to hear, Atlas is my top one. I think that's the one described as 70s glam rock/disco or something like that

What exactly happened? This thread blew up and I can read through all the pages to see what happened but if someone wouldn't mind providing a summary of this thread, I'd appreciate it Edit: Also, when it comes to stuff in the vault, what do you want? I think I'd love to see a really well done documentary (maybe done similar to the style of VH1's old "Behind The Music" series) of the UYI tour that pulls from all that footage Slash says they have of the UYI tour

Duff used to be viewed as a hero for his role in reuniting himself, Axl and Slash but now look at how he's viewed

Someone held up a Where's Izzy sign near the beginning of the NITL tour and Axl pointed it out on stage and kindly shrugged it off saying something like "that's a good question, I don't know". No anger or hate or maliciousness or frustration was shown on Axl's part

That open letter is a mic drop. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house

I think the Illusion albums might be more of the "true" sound of GN'R than AFD. By that, I mean songs like Dust N' Bones, Breakdown, KOHD, Yesterdays, Bad Apples, Bad Obsession, 14 Years. Songs like that. Kind of a country/folksy tinge to the sound. Also I think there's kind of an experimental/artistic edge to their sound that is captured in stuff like Locomotive and Coma and those are found on the Illusion albums. Rocket Queen kind of has that in the masterful outro it switches to near the end of the song though and that's on AFD. I could be completely wrong here. It's just if I'm thinking of unpopular opinions, the idea that maybe the Illusions might be more the sound of what GN'R really is, that's all I've got off the top of my head

But I thought we learned recently the vocals on ChiDem are all or largely from the 90s? And I also thought there was like 6 years of no real, considerable work done after the UYI tour (Axl's wilderness years)? So if this stuff happened in 1997 and UYI tour ended in summer of 93, how is Axl able to have 6 or so empty years yet be in the studio with Moby with a lot of songs made up for him to listen to in 1997? And if the vocals of ChiDem are from the 90s, as comments from last year suggest, how did Axl have no vocals to show for Moby in 1997? I'm not saying Moby is sitting here telling straight lies, but there are so many conflicting statements about the making of ChiDem. If you believe everything you hear about it, timelines don't match up and one thing said about it seems to contradict another thing said about it. Aren't there reports of some other producer who was super level headed and worked with Axl around 97-99 who said there were like three honestly good songs and he told Axl he needed to be a bit more focused and Axl got angry and the relationship ended? I don't believe this account implied there were no vocals made for the music. It's all just really confusing and hard to follow to be honest

I've come to learn that Izzy has probably never handled anything in his life poorly and is the biggest reason GN'R was a success in the AFD/early UYI days

I don't have a good enough handle on Axl's vocals to know if that's authentic or a really good impersonation. I'm sure there's a number of people out there that can emulate the sound of his voice and I'm sure some are fans. With creativity, I'm sure some fans have made some convincing "GN'R fan songs". A type of fan-art. If you will