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1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

One way for people to afford the things they want would be for the band to not be charging the utterly ridiculous and outrageous prices they're charging for Las Vegas.

Yeah. And to add insult to the injury is having to see the hanger ons Instagrams seeing how they all have a good old grand time wherever they go and us being the ones having to pay through our teeths to make them afford it.

2 minutes ago, WAR41 said:

So basically you won't fight for anything unless you can win.  Good luck!  I think we're done here.  

Way to twist my words.

1 minute ago, WAR41 said:

dude, I've been saying this for decades.  I've been on these GNR message boards for a long long time and whenever people whined about the band my answer was always the same.  You want to make them listen?  Don't buy merch, don't buy a fan club membership, don't buy their albums, don't buy their tickets when they tour.  It's as simple as that.  You want to take a stand then I fully support that.  I've said that I wouldn't take that AFD box set if it was handed to me for free.  That is my way of telling the band that thing was junk.  You yourself can not buy a ticket, but you can't be mad at some one else for buying one.  

Uhm, yes I can. Because that undermines my protest. If I refrain, from buying a ticket, but 15.000 others still do, then I've protested myself out of a concert, but at the end of the day nothing changes and I'm missing out.

1 minute ago, ZoSoRose said:

The people saying, "iM a CoNSuMeR ItS a FrEeMaRKeT yOU HaVe A ChOiCE!" can fuck right off. When EVERYTHING in the fucking world is skyrocketing and pay remains shit, that means almost nothing will be affordable for the average consumer. So, suck a fat dick if you think $100+ face value nosebleeds are acceptable.

You tellem!

5 minutes ago, WAR41 said:

Lol a clear conscience??  Dude we're not talking about murder here.  We're talking about buying a ticket to your favorite band's live performance.  I'll continue buying tickets to their shows.... or maybe not.  As a consumer I have a choice I can make. So do you!

No, but we're talking about context. The effects of people playing along paying whatever outragous price that is asked for tickets and how you can beat that. Go to shows and still not pay the top dollar they are asking. I know I'm not contributing to those high ticket prices. At least not as much as the people who always get the most expensive ticket in the house.

3 minutes ago, Ratam said:

I think that the responsible about high price is Live Nation, don't think is the band. I can be wrong.

Right. Don't blame the band who gets whatever millions per show. It's the evil concert promoter who's responsible.

4 minutes ago, Subtle Signs said:

I got into a GnR show for $50 a few years ago. Yeah it wasn't the best seat but for a band that size the tickets won't be less than that. Also most shows (not just GnR) can be attended for below face value if you wait long enough and use stubhub. So yeah pretty much anyone can go if they come to your city and tickets start at $50.

Right. And what if they don't come to your city? What if you have to travel somewhere to see them? Then you don't want to risk not getting a ticket at all or getting a crappy seat somewhere in the back.

3 minutes ago, Subtle Signs said:

They were called mad and essentially told that they have no life. In fact if someone can afford to see every show they'd be pretty well off and financially secure to do that.

You can be that and still have no life.

3 minutes ago, Natty said:

exactly.. the direction is wrong already... I mean how can they ask more money now? what have they done to justify 1000 usd and more??? it s a joke

people who defend or pay such prices ruin it for the rest of the people who simply don t want or cannot spend it. 

Exactly.

5 minutes ago, WAR41 said:

Agreed.  That's why I'm pissed at you for buying a ticket to any GNR show at all in the past.  You've driven up the prices to this level!!! 

 

Most of my shows have been festival shows, where tickets where considerably cheaper than at GNR solo shows. I've specifically went to the shows that where cheaper than the regular GNR shows. On average I paid about 60 $ less then what they usually charge for pit tickets. I have not bought 1 single early entry ticket. I've been to less shows, because of the ticket prices. So, I have a clear conscience.

6 minutes ago, Subtle Signs said:

I was almost banned from here for using the term GNR-Educator (TM) but fans can criticize other fans for going to multiple shows? Again ,who cares?  Their money,their life. Doesn't impact any of us in the slightest. 

No it doesn't.

Yeah. It does. If people wouldn't pay those outrageous ticket prices, GNR would have to do something about it. Every single one paying those prices is responsible for them keeping those prices and even raising them. There is no denying.

8 minutes ago, Natty said:

people who go to every (or almost) show have no life and shouldn t feel proud or anything similar but sad cause their life is so empty they have nothing else to do. Going to some shows is great.. but every show means you have nobody and/or nothing else in life = poor thing

Yeah. Out of likes, but that. I know I love going to shows and probably would go to some more if I could afford it/would feel comfortable spending that much/wouldn't have an intense dislike of getting ripped off, but going to every single one of them, standing in line every fucking day to be at the front, not batting an eye spending thousands on tickets and travel and being on tour since 3 years. Yeah. That is sad and really no accomplishment when you have more money than god and nothing else going on in your life.

8 minutes ago, Subtle Signs said:

Who cares what someone else does with their money? If they can afford it more power to them. I saw 11 NITL shows between Australia,Canada,Vegas etc. I'm no bigger fan than anyone just lucky I was able to do it. I can't swing Vegas this time but that's a real first world problem to have. I hope everyone going has a blast. 

Welll. It drives ticket prices up for every single one of us.

7 minutes ago, zigzagbigbag said:

Are you serious? 😄 Any more information? I am just curious. 

Nah, you have to find out shit for yourself. Don't wanna slag someone off online.

6 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

She brings friends with her too, so she's not the only one.

I've seen her enough times to know that she mostly goes alone, but obviously gets to know people along the way.

6 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

 

Well you know that there are certain fans who will be there right up front. The ones who have gone to every show...

Well. There is only one who's gone to every show and she is clearly mad.

4 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Indefensible pricing. 

If people pay it, they must be mad, and they're encouraging these prices, 

Out of likes, but yes. Definitely.

1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

My wife and I LOVE going to Vegas. I always have to work there for about a week every January, so she usually comes out during that time. Then we try to do at least one if not two more trips during the rest of the year. It's looking like we'll only work one more in this year, so I'm aiming for mid to late October.

I somehow missed the full pricing until just now.

JESUS.

JUMPED UP.

CHRIST.

Those prices are absolutely I N S A N E ! ! ! !

And yet there are fuckers who pay for that shit without batting an eye. Screw them.

4 hours ago, JimMorrison4 said:

$249 is for floor is way too much for a tour that's been going on for 3 years 

Too much for any tour.

1 hour ago, LovelessNL said:

Sure, but then again. We (Netherlands) are rarely skipped in large tours, even though we only have 17,3mil inhabitants.

And i don't recall the UK getting skipped. People will just have to move their asses to London or a Festival if they want to see the band.

3 hours ago, lukepowell1988 said:

That's cos every other country just ain't the UK best country in the world mate!

Um, well. Apparently GNR don't think that way and only do the bare minimum there.

19 hours ago, lukepowell1988 said:

Yeah sadly anyone from outside of the UK things England is basically just London.

Yeah, and sadly anyone inside the UK thinks every artist should tour up and down that fucking island. ;-) Most countries only get 1 or 2 shows.

13 hours ago, rockphantom said:

Which would be the better value? The Locked and Loaded box for $399 or 1 GNR 2019 ticket for $300?

Hmm. I guess not the question, but both are way overpriced.

On 8.6.2019 at 4:53 PM, 31illusions said:

That's a good price. I wonder what the price is after shipping and tax. Probably take a month to get here too?

Well. To Europe shipping is 340. In a way I'm annoyed and in a way I'm glad, because it is just a piece of junk. But something I wouldn't be totally opposed to be owning. Not nessesarily wanting to spend the money on it though. That AFD plaque is a different story though... tempted. But then again, it still is not an original thing. Not even the original cover.

Just now, Len Cnut said:

So apparently he does care what people think.  A fair few million quids worth of caring.

He cared not to loose his life. He cared not to have a civil trial unfairly influence a potential criminal trial that could have put him behind bars. Had he truly cared about what people think, settling this civil case would have not been the right answer.

3 minutes ago, Len Cnut said:

Explain the Chandler pay off then?

What do you want me to explain. They wanted money, they got money. The civil case got dropped and Jackson could live somewhat in peace (with a tarnished reputation, but still). End of story.

2 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

I wasn't discussing whether they were molested. I was discussing whether a kid would express a desire to sleep in the bed with an adult that is not the kid's parent. And you were too, until you decided not to.

And really. Can we just drop the "bed". There is too much emphasis on "bed" and "sleeping with". Robson asked to stay in Michael's room. That he ended up on the bed, since well, apparently there was only one bed, really is beside the point. So yes. The kid probably might not have said, "Can I stay in your bed?" but very well might have said "Can I stay in your room?".